You should excuse me for not wishing "to respect the forum rules" since, obviously, you consider what I am doing, trolling. But, whether or not you choose to consider me one thing or another, it's irrelevant: Nobody will wish to "respect the forum rules" when those arbitrary and dictatorial rules are set by you and designed to keep people going silently for their Soylent Green while you do... well, whatever you want. Something, anything, or nothing at all. Yes you have -also by your choosing- other forums that you apparently favor but, guess what? Crypto IS BTCTalk. If it is not here, it doesn't really exist. So you may dislike BTCTalk, but here's where it is at. If you want the biggest amount of crypto people to know anything about your project, you simply HAVE to communicate it HERE, there's no alternative.

Mind you, desirable as it can be, that you, as the leader of this project, keep your investors and supporters informed of the progress, direction and objectives, it is not all that needed... as long as SOMEBODY takes that assignment. What a Community manager cannot do is disappear from the forums for months, I don't care if he's travelling to the moon, ok? Anyone can post from the hills of the Himmalaya to Tikbunctu to Tierra del Fuego, alright? And no, in crypto, you cannot be silent for months without the coin price literally dying... which, for you, may not be important but for everyone else it definitely is.

It is thoroughly obvious that you don't want to deal with the plans to promote the coin, to look for it's adoption in the real world. It;s not desirable but, again, fine ... as long as somebody does it. It is painfully apparent that tech alone will do absolutely nothing to propel this coin forward. Not now, not ever, since this coin as of today serves absolutely no purpose that is not widely served and adopted already by many others. So, unless something is done in that regard, more and more supporters will stop supporting and will jump ship, just like they have been doing for quite a few months already. Thank you for giving us signs you are alive, Erik. And for the "sort of" plan you have... but what if no coders come forward? I am assuming some "editors" or video aficionados will. Maybe someone with infographics knowledge will volunteer.... but, quite frankly, the likelihood  is... NEITHER. People in crypto, people with talents, have every right to expect to be compensated for their work, so don't you think that some rewards in the way of bounties are called for if really we expect some action, some moving-forward, so to speak, in pushing the actual usage of VIA in the real world? The Morellian project looks quite interesting but when you posts that in the "next months" you are going to throw yourself into it, what does it mean, that VIA, de facto, will continue not having a Community Manager, someone coming with ideas to push the project forward as often as possible? Because if that is the case, perhaps it is time to delegate on someone that will have the ability, energy and free time to do the job. Furthermore, why a project like Morellian, which is quite interesting, is not being promoted already, with, for instance, a blog entry, some press releases, more detail right here that can awaken the interest, support and enthusiasm of not only current supporters but potential supporters as well? Haven't we learned yet that if people don't know what you are doing, no matter how good or interesting it may be, it doesn't really exist?

So how about this: How about showing everyone, here and everywhere, first that VIA is a VERY ACTIVE PROJECT in development, not only on the technical side, which is a given, but also in it main purpose, which is to have an actual, practical use in the real world? Tell everyone where we are, in that path and where the path will take us and what milestones we are trying to reach in the short term? That would be just a start, but a very active start. Using all the resources we can muster to get the word out. Many people in crypto, that consider this project stale, or worse, would renew their interest, no doubt. And a couple or three, outside crypto, could have their interest piked, don't you think? None will... unless we make them take notice, OK? That would be a good start, don't you think? What are those "data models" you have all done? Again, that you have then "done" sounds fantastic... but if no one knows what they are, you might as well have saved yourself the effort. What are them? what purpose will they serve when known and implemented? what specific help, if any, you need in that regard. Are donations or other actions from the community required to speed up the path to fruition? Again, Morellian looks great, but there are already a number of coin projects with more or less established ways to achieve, in general, what Morellian wants to achieve. If you don't move forward rather quickly, someone will. Do you think that a bit of buzz, press [perhaps, will help to open some significant doors rather than approach those doors via cold calls? I'm sure you get the gist of what I'm saying...

I am pretty sure that, if motivated AND ENGAGED, the VIA community will respond enthusiastically and would volunteer lots of valuable ideas to help. And, if compensated, they will come with the skills and talent to be effective in filling up the needs of those projects already in the works, as you seem to state in your post. I don't think it's reasonable to expect voluntary and non-compensated work to be done by people in a project in which the main dev and another investor own, basically 25% of it, that's just not reasonable, so maybe those two would be interested in starting a fund that the community can contribute to, to get things done at the level of excellence that a project like this demands and deserves.

Anyway, welcome back, you both and please take what's written as what it is, critical thinking and positive contribution to a project that your lax attitude has put on a critical situation quite unnecessarily. Or take it as trolling or not following your peculiar, so to speak, rules. But take it and run with it to DO SOMETHING that needs to be done as soon as possible to get this project to the position of leadership that it can attain. Until allowed (by those peculiar rules), I will be here to criticize but also to support whatever positive end efficient endeavors are taken and carried out.

An unexpected break in power, I guess. Makes no sense to me but what do I know...

You DO realize that NONE of the quotes you have chosen, NONE, not even your personal comments, NONE OF THEM, is related to XPY? Everything is related to Garza and/or GAW. And, perhaps more importantly, you -AGAIN- use the tried and abused FOREGONE CONCLUSION approach (and why not? There are no consequences so why not just keep on going all the way, right? No danger -so far- of libel and the clap/clap instead of the rest of the bloodthirsty hunters so, once again, why not?). But, just to keep things in perspective, for those who really want to know what's going on here, everything in those "documents" that only one outlet of NO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION -as a matter of fact a single individual IS the outlet-, in the crypto world has posted again and again innuendo, dubious documents, hand selected at best, faked at worst... all of it, all of THEM, have produce POTENTIAL or ALLEGED faults. Since you obviously don't know or care for what "potential" or "alleged" means, do yourself a favor and not only google it but LEARN it. Or not. As long as there are no consequences, you will continue doing what you are doing with total lack of ethic or interest in the truth and with reckless abandon.

As for (the collective YOU) being responsible for sinking PayCoin, unfortunately yes, that is the case. Of course counting with the domino effect provoked by the vicious and unethical and fraudulent hunting down campaign. I mean, Gyft reneged on its agreement for ONLY that reason. That started the whole chain of ALLEGED broken promises -that have not been broken and, as a matter of fact, are top priority for Garza to follow completely-. But yes, Gyft was supoposed to make PayCoin a currency of choice susceptible to be used at Target, Amazon and everywhere else that was claimed. They decided not to stand the heat created by the hunting down bloodthirsty party so that was out. Was it payCoin's fault? was it that it was "badly designed"? We all know the answer to that. Well, congrats KKK boys, you got the job done, not so much because of your vociferous bullshit as for the cowardice of Gyft, but, either way, the result was the same. Karma is a bitch indeed, and Gyft will end up paying its share of the cowardly bargain, no doubt.

And all of this, I repeat, is just to keep things in its proper perspective. I personally -since some seem to be interested- had never any dealings nor interest with either GAW or the Hashlets or even PayBase,. I signed for an account a few days ago, maybe a week ago, and some of my info still seems to be "under consideration" whatever that means. I don't give a crap anymore about that (I will when the vault opens, if it ever does). And I have a few XPY which I have very successfully traded, I repeat, many times in the recent past, enough times to have made some small profit in general. My current holding will not affect me either if valued at $20 or at 2 cents. A nd, once more, my only interest at this point is to set the record straight as to what has transpired in this project, a shameful look, just another one, at the real face of crypto. The face of those that do not hide because their crimes -in their perception- are too old and their coins are "established", no matter how much fraud, insider trading and overall manipulation and just plain shit they have used for their personal profit. Those and their KKK soldiers -like you- are the responsible party of the situation of this project, regardless of what the final outcome will be or who has done what OUTSIDE of XPY. Or even inside. I'd be the first to claim against Garza if he's guilty of anything (XPY related) other than puerile stupidity -of that he is already guilty-. But ONLY in due time and ONLY if he is found to be indeed guilty of any wrongdoing.

It is a big difference, KKK crypto boys. A big, huge difference. And you KNOW it.

No one knows how to fix this?

What is this?

See? Once again, a subpoena by the SEC, of all establishments, -you haven't cared to even look up what the SEC is... it is a COMMISSION, not a law enforcement agency, get the difference?- is for you  "...so much evidence that there really is no need for anyone to manufacture fake documents." Right there we can all clearly see the straws you are willing to hang to to keep up with your bloody hunting party...

But first of all, let me make very clear to you that my personal interest in XPY is beyond modest, actually minimal and that overall I have profited from trading it in a significant way, so spare me your BS about understanding what I must be going through, ok?

And no, for whatever twisted reason, you cannot live, you cannot survive without this particular soylent green which is hunting down by any and all means, bar none, XpY. When and if you consider you job done, you will go through a very lengthy period of detox and experience significant withdrawal effect.

perhaps you have chosen to ignore that I have never once stated that XPY is not a con or a scam. I just don't know. No one can now in the realm outside of Garza's closes associate (his brother). That's THE FACT. But, definitely, a subpoena of documents by the SEC is ANYTHING BUT evidence of anything, let along ANY and ALL wrongdoing. As stated in my previous post, the SEC  would not have even known ever what GAW of payCoin/Paybase ever were if a legion of nutcases like you wouldn't have staged the 24/7 twisted campaign, hunt party if you will, to discredit the project by any means, regardless. The SEC is just a hungry-for-money commission, that will look into anything that can mean money for them. Now, probably they will find something to significantly fine GAW for, thus setting a precedent... which, obviously will be appealed and finally settled, paid and big fat lawyer's bills paid too. all at significant cost to GAW... and, ultimately, yes numbnuts, to you and me and the entire crypto community. But that is, some of what BY ANY MEANS exactly mean, right. And the personal and "professional" satisfaction of those representatives of the "established (shit)coins" is well worth the cost right? Except that more that you and them can play that game, and the sharks at the SEC will have tasted blood. And will come for more, PRECISELY from those established (shit) coins with so many skeletons in the closet, from the US to Cambodia and back, the the SEC fees alon e can put a stop to the immense amount of shit that plagues the entire crypto scene. Poetic justice is certainly on the way. You -or them- never intended it. But it is coming nevertheless.

And in the end, despicable actions notwithstanding -and yours and theirs are as despicable as they come-, it all be for the greater good. Ah, karma... It's a bitch.

It is, indeed, a (very bad) joke.

And quite to be expected, of course, since this project suffers, among many other ills, from the Stockholm Syndrome, crypto version, which is, basically similar to the abused domestic partner syndrome: You allow the abuse so you become increasingly abused while losing your self respect.

people here has allowed this dictator dev to do as he pleases without question, argument of criticism, never mind that the project has only going south from the get go, exception made of that bump regarding Zynga that ended up being nothing. Why would he feel any sense of obligation or even minimal respect towards those who not only gladly gave him their money but are quite happy being submissive through the continued abuse through obvious disrespect, being permanently ignored and avoiding any, even minimal, communication.

In this case, the abused obviously not only deserve the abuse but actually enjoy it. But not all. Some will try to bring some sense of minimal decorum and respect, hopefully before this whole project goes to the shitcoin cemetery, where  such (tech) brilliant project should never end.

You are talking here to someone who long ago established THE WALL OF SHAME precisely for that purpose, not a later day pretended "savior of innocents". You were after payCoin from the get go, NOT because it could be a scam -a foregone conclusion on your part, because you had decided on it before there was not just no evidence (there's still none), but because you were, like so many others, committed to try to stop its progress/success by ANY means necessary-. You had a very clear interest, just like so many others, including those who protested from positions of responsibility in several established coin projects, in provoking the failure of the PayCoin/PayBase project. To the point of making of it an insane, vicious, absolutely unfair crusade of very damaging proportions for crypto in general, not just PayCoin or GAW. Your/their fudding stopped, actually, the Gyft deal, we now know, which not only was originally in place but was also to make PayCoin spendable everywhere AS ADVERTISED. There was -as posted by me here- no SEC investigation. But enough crazy nuts, like you, bothered the SEC and downloaded the request for information that they HAD to investigate... and investigation, mind you, which will bring whatever it brings but it is not a foregone conclusion -as you again use- of ANY wrongdoing at all.

It isn't PayCoin/PayBase what is wrong or causes damage to crypto; it is you and the vicious, sick spreaders of falsehoods for their self serving agenda, the ones that try to legitimize the obvious false accusations and faked documents, the cancer of crypto. Including those despicable, envious representatives of "established coins", shit coins in fact the lot of them. It is YOU who, still, continue the vicious hunting down still with no evidence whatsoever, still with no serious reporting about it from any, any at all, of the reputed net outlets, much less from the serious press who did the damage, who do the damage and make it impossible for a project that was meant to be a gigantic leap forward towards massive adoption, to progress/succeed.

I'd be the first to support any and all indications of possible scams or cons, leveling the playing field against the crooks, anonymous or not who cry FUD at every instance trying to hide their scams. No need of so called solid evidence if we are to have a level playing field AND protect innocents from them, but when you and all those either produce or thoroughly support FALSE, FAKED documents, that's a line that should never be crossed. That's what you have been doing since the get go. NOT warning of "red flags" at all -which would be a positive thing to do-, but supporting the lynching by a vicious mob determine to make the project fail by any means necessary. Actually, being (a very active) part of it. Big difference, comprende?

How is THIS: https://hashtalk.org/topic/33171/hacker-s-prove-gaw-is-not-a-scam for your "mountain of evidence"? Do you want me to expose that you were on the crusade long before there was no evidence whatsoever? uh, ah. there's still none whatsoever and, now, plenty of real evidence to the CONTRARY.

Hehehe...

people is claiming things all over the place, that's not the question, the question is why would Rishan say the e-mail are faked? Your answer, I'm sorry to say, is very stupid, sorry again. When one has $4 million invested in a project, more than half his own money, one has enough pressures to deny something that is provable true, so I have to believe the emails are fabricated. Rishan has many options, since he owns/controls 1 million shares. He can, for instance, take over and oust Garza and the brother. He can put them both in jail if the emails are not fabricated. What he cannot do, is protect "his savings he invested in paycoin" as you put it. Obviously you don't know anyone who can dump 2.5 million dollars (of his own money) or more in a single project, especially a very risky one, otherwise you would know that he has considerably more invested in less risky endeavors and probably a personal fortune at least 10 times as big as that. So don't even remotely pretend you know how Rishan acts of why, that way above your pay level, ok? As far as $2.5 million being "his savings" that is just ridiculous.

Rishan, on another level, is now prominent, therefore he cannot just lie if he ever wants to have any credibility in whatever endeavors he chooses.

But since none of this is going to convince you of anything, by all means, let the crusade continue.

By the way, I don't know about the e-mails, but the message posted by "gawneedstobestopped" stinks of very clumsy fabrication to high heaven... no matter how much  it serves your agenda.

Oh boy is right. And spare me the absurd rhetoric ok? This is an investment by any other name and, like I have stated, we are all aware of then particularly dictatorial -and thoroughly unacceptable "conditions" imposed by this anonymous individual. What you simply chose to forget, cowardly or not, is that there are other actions available to anyone, rather than just "take it", alright? You may be willing to lose your investment or money for participating or whatever denomination you may want to assign to it, but the vast majority of the rest are not. Not capriciously. Not because there isn't a community manager (or has gone MIA). In this thread or if necessary in others, actions can be taken if things get completely out of hand. One cannot remain "calm" as you pretend, watching his money literally disappear simply because the Community manager is nowhere to be seen or the dev refuses to come forward and explain (or remind, as many times as necessary) that things are on track and that specific targets are being or about to be hit. Not to mention new projects, features or activities that the most reasonable community of "participants" is expecting logically. There's no pulling without incentives and the contrary happens ALWAYS, when the leader of the project chooses silence. He HAS TO engage the community. He HAS TO  change paths since the current ones are no9t producing anything positive and many things negative, he HAS TO try, on another direction, to propel this project forward, not just write or get someone to write some code here and there ok? And if he doesn't, the price will simply continue telling him what he's doing wrong as more and more "participants" decide to participate elsewhere. That's not being an "employee", that's being a LEADER, get it now?
 

So why do you think Rishab is "now denying"?

Not enough dumping for you as it is? Remarkable...

Don't forget to sound the alarm when you consider it's time to panic, ok? https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bittrex/viabtc

And please don't cowardly cry FUD when criticism about lack of activity or, worse, lack of MEANINGFUL activity is obvious during periods of months at a time. And just coding a few lines is not MEANINGFUL ACTIVITY. I don't think anyone is complaining -or selling- because VIA is lagging technologically but, where exactly is this project going? what is being done to achieve goals of growth, adoption, use-case? Or are we just hoping and prying that people will buy into this for no reason whatsoever? Where is the road map and where are we on it at this point in time? Are new strategies being considered since the price has been decimated in the last few months?

Positivism without reason is just soylent green, ok? Everyone would be more than positive if there were REASONS for it. As it stands, there are none.

Over 20% (and counting) since you posted this.

As "pennies" go these are some hefty ones... wishful thinking notwithstanding, of course.

But you should now you are here just to give BTCdrak your BTC. No questions asked. He will take your money, like he did in the ICO, he will go away at his leisure and for as long as he wants, he will dump his millions of coins as he sees fit and he will ban you (me, in this case, whenever he so chooses). And you should not complain, but say "thank you mustah", while adopting the dog position previous to being impaled. That's what you signed up for.

Oh, but how unfair, it hasn't even been 2 full months since last few lines...: http://blog.viacoin.org/2015/01/13/v0-10-6-5.html

Never mind that holding in VIA is now worth less than half what was worth in the market then.

But, like I said, ssssssht! or you will be banned (so look for this post in another thread very. very soon). Or just post that only FUD is posted here by the people that should happily and merrily just say goodbye to their money while BTCdrak and/ or the other guy or both dump it on you. Ain't that peachy? And, this is really "special": Some of you actually LIKE it!. Hey, to each his own!

Since obviously you don't know, the dictator in chief here has forbidden any mention of price.

I don't know if it is BTCdrak or the other guy but somebody sure is dumping big time. Slowly but relentlessly. But hey, who's counting right?

Yep... as opposed to the other sources of activity and information, that are both abundant and informative. I guess it is dumping time.

Well what else did you expect, really? BTCdrak has made it quite obvious, since the get go, that this is his coin, in his terms, which are a throwback to what it is nowadays just not acceptable anymore (censored thread, anonimity, unfair distribution). So selling your coins is indeed the best you could have done. Those of us holding cannot really complain because, in reality, no one with half a mind should be supporting this project.