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2521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Plan B Is a CIA Agent on: July 04, 2022, 08:16:13 PM
Well, I was wondering whether or not I should post a reply due to the fact that the entire thread is completely unproductive and should be in the off topic section of some other, smaller and less known forum but who am I to deny a good old fashioned schizo thread?

I very much doubt Plan B is a CIA agent.

That would mean Bitcoin was developed by the CIA.... That can't be true, right? I refuse to believe the CIA could ever possess the intellect or the will power necessary to think of something like Blockchain. All they really do is interfere in elections, plan coups and topple governments of foreign countries whenever it suits the US's geopolitic interests.


In all seriousness, Plan Bs S2F model is just basically the approximation of the logarithmic prediction of Bitcoin. Simple but misguided mathematics with a fancy title. Absolutely nothing special nor original about his predictions. I prefer keeping an eye on the logarithmic chart.
Roll Eyes
2522  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2022, 03:45:35 PM
OT: Dutch farmers to their WEF-controlled govt: "Fuck you!"

https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1543300949870927873

Not sure whats happening there but my heart does rejoice at the sight of manure-covered politicians.
2523  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Dabs #54791 is a habituated PM-beggar, doing public “charity” and escrow. on: July 04, 2022, 01:28:48 PM
Initial version of post:  https://archive.ph/DT9U4#selection-3665.0-3847.91


More recently, Dabs had someone publicly begging on his behalf in the Wall Observer:

archive.ph, Wayback:
[...]

You could donate it to Dabs if you don't want it. As he told me, he is in an uncomfortable financial situation and could use any and all help. Maybe WO should help him out?

I DID NOT "beg on his behalf". I truely thought he was in sincere trouble. And never having known Dabs (a veteran WO'er with nothing but green trust) to be a habitual begger,  I felt empathy for him so I thought WO should know of the troubles of a fellower long term WO'er. And as someone in the thread said they had tainted BTC that they did not wish to hodl, trade or sell, I proposed it go towards him. I did not go out of my way to ask for people to dig into their savings.

I would ask you to stop your disgusting insinuations that he had engaged me to beg for him.

Instead of accusing the accuser and trying to shoot the messenger, I advise that you should apologize to death_wish for how you essentially called him a liar.  And if you would have acted differently had you known of Dabs’ past begging, then your anger would be more appropriately directed at him, not at me.  Rather, you should thank me for coming forward with something I was reluctant to touch for over two years.

The public posts, which are all archived, speak for themselves.  And you spoke for yourself, when you called for “any and all help” for Dabs, and you asked that “WO should help him out”.  I will not waste my time on your dishonest wordgames, when everyone can see exactly what you said.

I did not call him a liar. I asked him to provide evidence for his claim, since he made a heavy claim which was suited to damaging Dabs's clean reputation. Instead of coming forth with the evidence, as I requested of him, Death_wish attempted to goad me (multiple times) into taking an unfair, premeditated Bitcoin bet with him over the matter. When I refused, he continued to troll me into taking the bet. Basically trying to scam me out of my coins.

Most people dislike his character as he is an annoying troll on the WO. And lets be honest, he was venting on everyone and anyone because he lost most of his Bitcoin with margin trading. Which is why I overreacted. I may have been mistaken about Dabs but why you seem to be vouching for death_wish, I have no idea.

I am not going to tell you again. Stop smearing my good will and reputation.

Also, should the situation arise when a fellow senior Bitcointalker with a glowing green reputation is in a dire situation, I will be sure to let everyone know so that those who wish to help, can do so... And I really do not care what trolls think of that.
2524  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Dabs #54791 is a habituated PM-beggar, doing public “charity” and escrow. on: July 04, 2022, 12:37:48 PM


More recently, Dabs had someone publicly begging on his behalf in the Wall Observer:

archive.ph, Wayback:
[...]

You could donate it to Dabs if you don't want it. As he told me, he is in an uncomfortable financial situation and could use any and all help. Maybe WO should help him out?

I DID NOT "beg on his behalf". I truely thought he was in sincere trouble. And never having known Dabs (a veteran WO'er with nothing but green trust) to be a habitual begger,  I felt empathy for him so I thought WO should know about the troubles of a fellower long term WO'er. And as someone in the thread said they had tainted BTC that they did not wish to hodl, trade or sell, I proposed it go towards him. I did not go out of my way to ask for people to dig into their savings.

I would ask you to stop your disgusting insinuations that he had engaged me to beg for him.

Here is my interaction with Dabs:

As you can see by the following, I was not employed or otherwise engaged by him to beg.

Hi there goldkingcoiner,

You don't really know me except for my postings in the threads as Dabs, but I am in a dire situation and was hoping you could possibly help.

I have asked friends I know, and now I am resorting to people who I don't really know.

I can tell you my story if you'd like, or if you can, just help, that would appreciated too.

Thank you for reading. And I am sorry if this is a bother to you.


Dabs

How can I help, buddy?

Hi,

Allow me to tell you a summary of my life thus far.

I come from the Philippines. I moved to Canada in 2015. I did all sorts of things crypto / bitcoin, including sigs, escrow transactions, ... I earned my coins, did not really buy them. Had some from before the move. I brought with me my family, wife, 3 kids.

Was not employed until 2019. So you can believe I survived on crypto / bitcoin alone for about 4 years, but my earnings from that went to nothing and I had to keep spending and spending, no matter what, just to live. When I got the job, my income from that job was about $2k per month. My expenses for everything including rent, groceries, milk, food was an additional $4k a month.

Up until early this year, I still had a stash, and I had some staking alt coins that were providing me just barely that income and then along the way (in 2017-2018) I had incurred debts, which is why I started looking for jobs in 2019 and I got one in Feb 2019.

Then covid happened and everything went to hell, but yet I still somehow survived. I was forced to sell everything. I moved to a smaller housing unit, smaller apartment.

I've already applied for 100 to 200 jobs in the last month, gotten a few interviews, and just waiting for one of them to send me an offer. I was even willing to relocate to Kuujjuaq (that is near the north pole, but we're already in Canada, so it's not very far away).

Now, I am literally at the end of my rope.

I know, I am not really your friend, I am a stranger, but we've both been on the forums and you've seen some of my posts, I've seen some of your posts ... to "invest" in me would be a gamble, but one I would say is also an asymmetric bet. Because if you help me, and I make it out of my situation alive and successful a few months from now, I'll be able to also help you, either pay you back or pay it forward or something.

I am about 10 days from becoming homeless and having to send my kids away. I do not want that to happen. I am desperate but I am not going to do anything illegal or wrong, however I am willing to do anything for you that I can do, even if it is just a promise that I will have to keep for many months or years.

No one has been willing to help or can. Those in a position who can, won't.

I need financial help. Any amount is appreciated. You know what I need for the immediate future, but I can tell you this: if I get enough so I don't get too stressed out for the next several months, that would be great and allow to focus on improving and fixing my life and maybe earning back more, get a better job, etc. And I will never forget you. A coin or two (even at today's bottom prices) would be a great help. More of course, is better. I actually won't profit from the coins because they will be immediately converted to fiat. Canadian dollars, that is.

Let me know if you can. And I am sorry if this is a very sad story and just bothering you.


Dabs

P.S. I do have or involved in some projects, small ones, they are not profitable, but they have a community. I don't have any coins/tokens with them, I am just there for the tech, but they could be a promising future.

Ah, yes, I would like that. What kind of community manager? is it here on this forum? I have discord on my phone. What kind of pay are we talking about? I'd really like to do it and continue doing it, but my situation is very dire and I am looking for all sorts of ways to fix that. I think you know what I need, I may have told you already. I don't need "giant amounts" and I may look like "overpaid" at the start to fix my life, but if you've seen me work on other small projects before, even those that did not pay, I have stuck with them for a long time.

If I'm not too stressed out, I wouldn't have a problem working with you on all your projects. Smiley

Dabs

You know, I could introduce you to some of my projects. Perhaps you would be interested as working as a Community Manager? It might not be a giant amount of money but the pay is not bad for the amount of work!

Please let me know.
2525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An alternative to gambling with money. on: July 04, 2022, 08:15:26 AM
The most popular suggestion you can get when trying to quit gambling especially when you are continuously loosing money is mostly that you should just stop gambling itself. This sounds like an almost impossible task for many who are already hooked to it and just hearing that alone is discouraging. A better suggestion and an alternative to quitting gambling completely is to start betting with fake money gambling apps. With FAKE MONEY GAMBLING APPS, you can continue gambling on the app even on live games, but with fake money. So in reality you can maintain the experience you derive from gambling and not loose any money except the fake one in the process.

Although the original idea behind the creation of such apps was to provide a platform were individuals can practice their betting skills without loosing money before actually gambling with real money, i still find it useful to those trying to quit because they keep loosing money.

In Order of user rating and for suggestion sake, some of the best fake money gambling apps according to user experience, core functionality & innovative solution are (please note that some of these apps still offer real gambling services, and if you really want to stop loosing money, you should avoid)                                                                                                                                         
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- Bovada is an app made by Toloka Product. It has an average rating of 4.9 and has received 6648 ratings.
- DraftKings – Daily Fantasy Sports for Cash is an app made by DraftKings, Inc.. It has an average rating of 4.5 and has received 81454 ratings.
- BetQL – Sports Betting Data is an app made by QL Gaming Group. It has an average rating of 4.2 and has received 591 ratings.
- Sports Betting Tips & Sports Picks by KingPin.pro is an app made by www.KingPin.pro LLC. It has an average rating of 4.2 and has received 376 ratings.
- BETUP is an app made by UPAPP. It has an average rating of 4 and has received 31685 ratings.
source

What is your opinion on Fake money gambling apps, do you recognize the potential I think they have to assist in reducing the number of gamblers who loose real money?

I think for practicing or learning how to gamble, obviously you should not be using real money. Although any online gambling casino owner would love to disagree with me but I do not think it is fair that you should lose money because you did not fully understand the game.

But once you have firmly grasped the rules and perfected the game the way you would like, I doubt that gambling with fake money is something that you will find interesting anymore. In fact, it would seem like a huge waste of time and every win would seem like something you could have won for real. Which can make you feel disappointed that you did not bet real money.
2526  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2022, 07:25:58 AM

are we bored?
2527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inherited gambling on: July 03, 2022, 01:50:03 PM
I know we are greatly influenced by the environment we are born into and sometimes become gamblers because of where we find ourselves, i also considered the possibility of gambling being hereditary and found out that it is also possible, that is gambling can be hereditary ,
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Gambling is linked to a gene that is passed on through generations and a new study claims that it is passed on to both sons and daughters alike.
now come to think of it since it is difficult to escape our genetic makeup,
- Would you blame an individual who becomes addicted to gambling because it is wired to his DNA?

-Can their gambling problem be put in check by regular methods?

-Will the addiction be worse than someone who picked up the habit?

I would say its probably got less to do with inherited gambling and more with a genetic disposition to hormonal disbalances in the brain. And the same goes with drug addiction, alcohol addiction, nicotine addiction, food addiction and any sort of addiction in which the brain is stimulated with dopamine/seratonin/Etc.

So basically if your dopamine recepters did not develop as expected for a healthy human, then obviously there will be problems. These types of people should stay away from anything that can be addictive. Especially gambling.

Hard to do, seeing as many things in this world can create an addiction....
2528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: POS VS POW effect on valuation of bitcoin on: July 03, 2022, 12:33:36 PM
I do not want to be a spoilsport but here I go:

I worry that POS might be the only feasible option for Bitcoin once all the Bitcoin are mined or until mining costs no longer justify rewards (if that is possible). Once mining rewards fall out of the equation, the value of Bitcoin transaction rewards will likely determine whether or not using POW is worth it, in the long term.

And if POS does not crash and burn horribly in its test phase with the current POS altcoins, then it might actually be an improvement for Bitcoin, especially when it comes to scaling.

Although I do dislike the anti-democratic part of POS.  Basically it could turn out to be centralization with extra steps.
2529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What the f..ck is wrong with the world,EU and crypto ? on: July 03, 2022, 10:11:16 AM
it seems governments are trying to take control of crypto and the internet.

They have been trying to do this since the birth of crypto. And what have they really achieved that was not already there? Nothing at all. People still can anonymously buy and trade crypto all they want and nobody is the wiser.

Same goes for the internet. Sure we may have many laws for the internet but you can circumvent 99% of these laws with a simple VPN. Or just use the dark web by accessing it through TOR.

The truth is that the governments have no power and they can only bark. Anyone who falls in line with their orders has only themselves to blame. Everyone else knows they can't actually do anything to crypto or the internet. Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
2530  Economy / Gambling / Re: Disgusting beitsler on: July 03, 2022, 10:04:08 AM
Disgusting bitsler, played there for years...i swear they rigged my account after i did cash out from their fcking faucet(, not even faucet, its fucking nitro WHICH I WAS FUCKING MORE THAN OUGHT TO HAVE) well they rigged my account after...so im done with them... 225 bets bets 6.6x dice payout reds, 185 6.1x dice payout and shit like that...ye tell me its unlucky. You are BITSLER shit then. Well i had some few trx and they wouldn't let me cashout until i wrote to their fucking rigged support. DO NOT PLAY AT THAT CASINO UNTIL U WANT TO GIVE OUT MONEY TO THEM . ITS SCAM

If you have actual hard evidence that you have gathered against them (and this evidence shows that they are unjustly using shady tactics to steal you money), then I highly recommend posting a scam accusation in the scam accusation subforum. Otherwise you are just letting off steam because you lost money at an online gambling casino.

Does losing money while gambling come to a surprise to anyone? Is it not something you should be expecting when you go into the casino in the first place?

Everyone else in this thread are saying that they have never had any problems with Bitsler. So obviously your scam accusation seems to not have any backing from anyone else. This is really not the place to vent your anger. Go outside and breathe some fresh air.
2531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is for big bag holders on: July 03, 2022, 09:22:08 AM
I would not trust ANY online gambling casino with large sums of funds. Why? Because as soon as you want to withdraw your relatively large winnings, the casinos start sweating and try anything, whether legal or not to stop you. Basically the most of them are crooks who cannot handle a large loss because every large enough loss can put them out of business forever.

But as long as you are losing money, they are completely happy to leave your account alone. They even encourage you to put more money into your gamblings funds with cheap incentives.

So basically, gambling is a fun thing to do with small amounts of money. Undecided
2532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MicroStrategy Acquires Additional 480 Bitcoins on: July 03, 2022, 09:03:38 AM
MicroStrategy has purchased an additional 480 bitcoins for ~$10.0 million at an average price of ~$20,817 per #bitcoin. 
As of 6/28/22 MicroStrategy holds ~129,699 bitcoins  acquired for ~$3.98 billion at an average price of ~$30,664 per bitcoin.

Man trying to DCA with millions.  Grin

Institutional investors know exactly what they are doing. It should come to no surprise to veteran bitcoiners as well. Now is the right time to make good investment decisions while newbies are selling.

I do not condone the same institutional investors who were spreading fud a few weeks prior in order to scare the newbies into selling their Bitcoin to them at a cheap price. But thats the way things are. Life lesson learned.

Hodl and do not panic. Otherwise someone else will own your coins. Roll Eyes
2533  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 02, 2022, 05:28:51 PM
Looks like Mexico has officially proposed the bill to senate for making Bitcoin legal tender.

Mexico's population is over 20x and their GDP over 43x the size of El Salvador. I would say now is the perfect time to buy, what do you think?

https://news.bitcoin.com/senator-indira-kempis-proposes-bill-to-make-bitcoin-legal-tender-in-mexico/


I predicted this. Thats right. I made it happen.
2534  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
Keep buying brothers of the wall. I do not want to see any mindrusting here, that’s an order!

2535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Strong Hands Are Buying on: July 01, 2022, 06:01:33 PM
Strong Hands Are Buying? No, more like hands with money are buying. All the other hands are sweating from not being able to buy more because we bought in at 21k thinking it was the bottom. My sweaty hands are hodling. Oh well, 10% more or less coin is not the end of the world. Although I do wish I had more fiat to burn. Trading worthless old generation money for new generation money does give one a satisfying feeling.

Maybe next time. Maybe. Undecided
2536  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EU agrees on landmark regulation to clean up crypto ‘Wild West’ on: July 01, 2022, 04:23:26 PM
EU moves to rein in ‘wild west’ of crypto assets with new rules
“We have agreed that crypto asset providers should in future disclose the energy consumption and environmental impact of assets,” Berger said.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jul/01/eu-moves-to-rein-in-wild-west-of-crypto-assets-with-new-rules

“Today, we put order in the Wild West of crypto assets and set clear rules for a harmonized market that will provide legal certainty for crypto asset issuers, guarantee equal rights for service providers and ensure high standards for consumers and investors,” said Stefan Berger, the lawmaker who led negotiations on behalf of the European Parliament.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/eu-agrees-to-deal-on-landmark-mica-cryptocurrency-regulation.html



Ohhh again with the "wild west" comparison. This is the favorite comparison for crypto that is used by regulators ever since Bitcoin came into existence. Its been the wild west for how many years now? How many years have the regulation lawmakers been threatening scary new regulations?

Its all a big nothing burger and will not have any kind of effect on the world of crypto now or in the future.

Although personally, I would prefer a more responsible environmental law on energy production. But lawmakers do not seem to be ready to talk about that yet. I wonder how much money the energy lobby pays them to keep quiet.
2537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 01, 2022, 02:01:42 PM

Idiots like you are the reason why people are believing Putins propaganda about Ukrainians being nazis, idiot.

Is this the first time you've met writers like this?
One here promised me a execution.

Don't pretend to be buddy-buddy with me. I read your posts. You are much worse than he is.

In fact, if it were up to me you and other Putin trolls would be in prison for spreading misinformation and inciting hatred towards Ukrainians. This dehumanizes them, which indirectly leads to them being tortured and killed by the people who believe your bullshit.

And you keep supporting Russia as if Putin personally pays you. Karma will come back to you one day.
2538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 01, 2022, 01:02:08 PM
Just yesterday I saw a video of Ukrainian soldiers bragging about executing POWs. Whether people say its justified or not, do they not understand they are hurting their own cause?

They hurting wheir own cause only in the eyes of idiots. Let me explain: executing POWs it's not the same as killing civilians. Especially, if this pows are from a country which started a war.

It's easy way to not be executed - just do not come to Ukraine. And for civilian ukrainians such easy way can't be achieved, because in their case they already at home.

Backwards logic and insults? Wow. Being called an idiot really makes me empathize with your people. Thanks for that.

It does not matter who started the war, you do not execute POWs and then brag about it publically on Tiktok. Especially when your country is heavily relying on foreign countries to send them weapons and financial aid. Its important to have a good reputation in the eyes of the international community. Think about all the people who you have made Anti-Ukraine with such dumb comments. You think this is good? You are doing damage.

Idiots like you are the reason why people are believing Putins propaganda about Ukrainians being nazis, idiot. Be better than this. The world is watching

2539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 01, 2022, 11:48:16 AM
Russian missile hits an apartment building in Odessa region, kills 20 civilians including children. Were they training to join Azov in 20 years?

The children were obviously dangerous neonazi commanders who had nuclear and biological weapons in their rooms. Roll Eyes The longer a war goes on, the more terrible it becomes. judging how cruel Putins minions were at the beginning, I would not be surprised if Ukraine gets nuked by the end of the year. Cruelty just keeps stacking on. Tbh, on both sides at this point. Just yesterday I saw a video of Ukrainian soldiers bragging about executing POWs. Whether people say its justified or not, do they not understand they are hurting their own cause? War turning people of both sides into animals. Its sad to see.

If this war isn't stopped soon, shits going to get crazy.
2540  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2022, 11:12:41 AM
In the old days I would face temptation to sell during BTC crashes. Now, I am faced with a new type of temptation: Wanting to borrow fiat to buy more BTC.
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