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1921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2022, 10:36:58 PM

Indeed a good read. A bit sad because I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed for not having bought Bitcoin instead. Well, live and learn.
1922  Other / Meta / Re: Russian Local on: November 28, 2022, 10:17:48 PM
~snip

On this forum, everyone gets a voice and nobody gets their mouth held shut, like in China. Even if it is coming from people you disagree with and/or hate. Nobody is forcing you to read their posts or participate in their sub-forum. However, people who are in the EU do not get to dodge responsibility of their words. If you wish to report the individuals for something illegal they have said or done under EU laws, then feel free to do so. But don't be a mad little girl just because we are not mass-censoring people that you don't like.

If you and your people of Ukraine wish to be in the EU, then learn to abide by EU democracy. This is how we do things.
 
1923  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin isn't a religion. on: November 28, 2022, 10:01:18 PM
Obviously it is not a religion. Religions need believers, not verifiers.

And that makes us a community. Each and everyone of us believes in Bitcoin because it is not in the hands of one person or company. Its code is open for everyone to read. Everyone who understood the Bitcoin whitepaper understood what Bitcoin can do and will do.

Its all a matter of mathematical proof. And the math says we should hodl Bitcoin while posting Bitcoin memes. Grin
1924  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: [GEWINNSPIEL] Bitcoin Einundzwanzig Magazin on: November 28, 2022, 09:10:21 PM
Cooles Gewinnspiel, Cygan!

Ich mache zwar nicht mit weil ich sowas nicht sammele aber finde das trotzdem super von dir!

Wieso hat noch keiner die 1 genommen? Ich hab so ein Gefühl es geht um Aberglaube? Oder gibt es da einen anderen Grund?
1925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Roshtein fake money streamer or not? on: November 28, 2022, 07:13:54 PM
Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

He may very well be. Unless we have evidence there is no way of finding out. I do not think that the policy update on twitch is somehow meant for Roshtein alone. There has to be a better reason for their new rules. They allow some streaming of some betting but not other types. They also allow some casinos but not the ones mentioned in the list. Makes you wonder what exactly they are looking to avoid.

As far as the streamer Roshtein goes, I do not think there are any laws against him streaming for "entertainment purposes" as long as he does not give financial advice or promise returns on investments.

Never heard of gambling streamers getting in trouble with any regulators...
1926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first attempt to play gambling on: November 28, 2022, 03:39:45 PM
We all have a different experience how we started our first bet. Their are people who started bet without having any knowledge concerning it. Their are some people started with a help from a friend to bet and their are some who took their time to learn before they started paying bet.

How was your first start? Did you play blindly or spent some time to learn.?

I am laughing from my stomach just by reading all the posts to this thread lol. My first time gambling was at Las Vegas. I must have been 10 or 11. Of course my parents would never let me near gambling but my uncle (big surprise there) would not mind it if I played the slot machines in Las Vegas while nobody watched. Ah man, the golden 90s. Those were the times.

To be honest, Las Vegas itself was a really big thing in my childhood, for some reason. My first visit there must have gotten me interested in gambling in the first place. And I remember winning $20. Which was a nice day for me, as I got to keep the money, until my parents found out.
1927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you were the government, how would you fight against bitcoin? on: November 28, 2022, 01:13:57 AM
I think attacking the endpoints of Bitcoin is the easiest way. Nobody would get far by tracking down each and every Bitcoin user if some dumb government were to make Bitcoin illegal (again³). The endpoints in this case are, for example, the centralized service platforms. Like a centralized crypto exchange. Centralization is too easy to control, freeze or close down, if I were the government.

So I go after the people who sell services for and with Bitcoin. But thats easy to avoid when everyone switches to web3 and since nobody needs centralized platforms to sell/buy goods and services, using decentralized services will compliment the decentralized nature of Bitcoin really well. And not only that, but the disconnection from government-traceable platforms will make fighting against Bitcoin impossible...

In other words, if I were the government I would do nothing because I can do nothing. Grin
1928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The origins of Slot games on: November 27, 2022, 10:34:24 PM
The origins of Slot Games

Slot machines are practically the “furniture” that can be found in any Casino anywhere in the world. Slot games are said to have been invented around 1871 in San Francisco.


The first slot machine ever to make its appearance was designed by a man named Charles Fey, and it was first known as the Liberty Bell. Since then, the device has been further developed over the years, and today we have hundreds of exotic games available to be played in slot machines.

You can learn more about the History of Slot Machines here.

I wonder how the old slot machines worked without electricity...
Is there an origin to when and how slot machines became so boring in real life?

I do not know why, but the aesthetic of slot machines has dropped below a significant level in real life casinos. Nowadays, in Las Vegas, you have to play with buttons and you are not even allowed to play with quarters. They expect you to put your gambling fund upfront. I really liked the old ones with the crank levers and the quarter slots. I understand that pressing a button or putting in quarters will tire your customers out more. So obviously making it harder for them to keep playing at your slot machines all day. I imagine casino owners care more about profit than the gambling experience, so buttons it is... What we really need is a plug and play lever substitute for online gambling for personal home use.  Grin


1929  Other / Archival / Re: Is there a chance we get a takedown notice? on: November 26, 2022, 06:38:01 PM

"We" don't have a say in this. You have no rights here -- this is a privately-owned forum.

Regardless, what's more likely than a takedown is a subpoena to theymos asking for info about the ChipMixer account.

The CM site would have a seizure notice first, before the feds interrupt forum activity, as that would be a giveaway that something is up.

Obviously I meant the "we" we not the "WE" we.  I will do my part to help I meant. I think you would agree to help too?

At most Theymos can give them an IP Adress which may or may not follow to the actual account users. Opsec baby. Opsec. The honeypot theory in the other post freaks me out more than the possibility of legal action against BTCT.
1930  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2022, 03:21:37 PM
It feels too quiet on the daily chart... Bitcoin is preparing either for a pump or dump. I would bet pump to around 18k and I would not dare hope for another Bitcoin fire sale anytime soon.


Would people kill each other and lose all morals towards murder if rebirth was proven scientifically and real death was not actually real? Sorry if this sounds like a stoned thought. Because it is.
1931  Economy / Economics / Re: House is a forced saving on: November 25, 2022, 10:15:27 PM

but you should own a home if you want to live there a long time or think you're getting a great deal.  

Experience has shown that people don't buy houses to live there but they do that as investment for the future. They acquire it and put it on rent or lease it out and on the long run it will become something to rely on for financial support. I have witnessed this alot when the man dies in the home, the children and wife rely on the investment of the man including land and houses for survival. So it is wise to buy houses incase the future isn't as planned such house will be sold for financial support to restart the finance of the family.

Historically, a house has always been a great investment, though. As long as you have the land deed. Especially in smaller, developed countries where the cost of land is going up by ridiculous percentages every year. For example, Japan.

Although worldwide, having a house and/or land is still a good investment for the future, seeing as the cost goes up the more people we have on earth. Unless in places where wars are waged. Ukraine is going to be prime investment for anyone looking to invest in cheap real estate.

One never knows when a war starts in ones own country. Your real estate investment might become nothing but rubble in a year or even a day. And your deeds become worthless toilet paper if the new occupiers say so.

Bitcoin > Land/House
1932  Other / Meta / Re: What’s wrong with Gambling Discussion board on: November 25, 2022, 08:25:01 PM
Probably just needs a another dedicated moderator that isn't a global moderator. Although, that might not be true I don't see how many reports are being made in the section, so without those reports, it might be fighting a uphill battle.

I've seen pretty much across the entire forum though that the attitude has sort of changed towards reporting. While, we used to have quite a few dedicated reporters, we've seem to have lost that. Now, that might be because they don't agree with how their reports are being handled or even a partial amount of them, but there's definitely been a attitude change.

I'd like to see us get back to the levels we were at before, but we probably need to make a few changes before that. Mainly, more moderators or at the very least having a few more dedicated moderators to sections that don't have them.

Gambling Discussion is quite wild at the moment. Reminds me of 2017 in the Altcoin section. I bet I could probably report 500-1000 reports a day there, and not make much of a dent. The spam has quite frankly got out of hand. The problem with it is there's a ton of vague posts there that if you aren't familiar with the sport might seem legitimate. For example, I don't watch basketball, and have no clue about it. If someone reports a post there that the user is just being very vague, and probably hasn't even watched the game, it's not always easy to tell if you don't watch it yourself. I see this a lot with the football threads, and boxing threads.

Perhaps the answer could be making sure signature campaigners do not post vague stuff is the responsibility of the bounty managers. And even if EVERY post was made to be productive, there would still be too many posters. So I think the issue is either setting stricter signature campaign limits or by setting stricter regulations on who is allowed to advertise/join such campaigns and how they should conduct said campaigns.

But a few moderators might also solve the problem, as you said.
1933  Other / Archival / Re: Is there a chance we get a takedown notice? on: November 25, 2022, 08:04:33 PM
I do not think we would take a take-down notice lying down. We would fight for our rights in the courtroom.

Also I doubt that a take-down notice would have any kind of underlying legal basis. At least not in any western non-US countries that I know of. Worst case scenario the servers get moved to some country in which Bitcointalk would continue functioning as before. Business as usual.

Any way I look at it, its not something that seems probable to happen. Undecided
1934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are stablecoins safe? on: November 25, 2022, 07:57:33 PM
USDT and BUSD are safest at the moment, I would say. They have existed for the longest as stablecoins and have never lost anyone money. Unlike exchanges which get hacked or scam people out of their coins. Which is why I would also say USDT is safer than BUSD. Simply because of BUSD's connection to Binance through the Binance Smart Chain (as well as because of the chains pseudo-centralized nature.)

Although With ETH 2.0, I would rate USDT lower and put both of them on the same level of trust.
1935  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2022, 07:45:55 PM

The gays have taken over Bitcoin TA while we were too busy shitposting. Bob, did you do this?

Gaycentralised.

I do however believe this is the best TA.
1936  Other / Off-topic / Re: Increase in cost of running the family on: November 25, 2022, 05:53:50 PM
I think, and this might be a hypothesis at most, that the cost of running a household and a family is inflated by the government and banks on purpose to keep everyone at a certain level of anxiety and panic about surviving. Just enough to make people work extra jobs/overtime and keeping the economy rising higher and higher, but not enough to drive people into madness and angry protest. Its good that the economy is higher each time because that increases the minimal life quality for each person but it takes more and more time away from us and gives us more stress. Both physical and fatigue of the mind.
1937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What could have Satoshi faced if he made himself known from the beginning on: November 25, 2022, 04:43:02 PM
Satoshi would have probably faced the same fate as anyone who tried to free the people from the dominance of the western worlds central banks... Middle eastern countries know this best. Its a war on who controls the money and people have been murdered for that cause by our own governments. Thats really what we need to get away from. And this is what Satoshi has provided us. Whether he would have been taken out in revenge or as a poor attempt to stop Bitcoin, I am sure that he would not have been left in peace from Uncle Sam.
1938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy Bitcoin before the banks and governments do on: November 25, 2022, 03:44:18 PM
Quote
"The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that’s required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.

Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve. We have to trust them with our privacy, trust them not to let identity thieves drain our accounts." - Satoshi Nakamoto


https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/2022/11/22/harvard-paper-to-central-banks-buy-bitcoin-00070552

Even if the Banks bought all Bitcoin, what would be the purpose of that? To control/centralize Bitcoin? In that case, we would just move over to a different coin with the same Blockchain technology but with just a different name. That does not sound like a good strategy for banks, especially since they want to earn profits, not just hold everyones money and charge them for such stupid reasons. They want to earn money by doing nothing but making it seem like they did something of use, like provided a service which people actually need...
1939  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Will there ever be any safe centralised exchange ? on: November 25, 2022, 02:17:06 PM
I'd say the exchanges that currently remained to be unhacked are pretty "safe"; probably Binance and Coinbase. But that doesn't mean I'll recommend leaving funds on these platforms. The developers can make the platform as secure as possible, but never secure enough to the point that it's impossible to hack. Exploits will always be a risk. Not because these "unhacked" exchanges remained unhacked for years doesn't automatically mean it'll stay the same forever.

https://NotYourKeys.org


How do you explain these things to the people whom have entrusted their funds and assets to you for safe keeping hoping that what they gave to you is under safe care only to wake up to a sad news of their assets being stolen by hackers. How do you explain all these.
That's why you don't let other people entrust their funds to you. You have not much to gain but everything to lose.

I don't think Binance is exempted from being "unhacked". They've got hacked years ago.

Source: https://www.wired.com/story/hack-binance-cryptocurrency-exchange/

And also Coinbase: https://www.pcmag.com/news/coinbase-discloses-that-6000-customers-got-hacked-this-spring

It's clear that no exchange is safe for us to store funds until now even if it's the best in the world. It's possible that Binance and Coinbase may get hacked again in the future, as these hackers are also improving their skills to create backdoors. Just saying.

The way I see it, this is going to steer us away from third party wallets. Which is a big plus.

The very nature of Blockchain is to get as far as you can away from centralization as you can and to be your own bank. Why anyone would trust a single, imperfect entity (like an exchange) to hold on to your money for you, I will never understand. I do not want my money to be compromised by some fat scammer dude and his goblina girlfriend just because they got too greedy and their scam came to light. Thats the opposite of what Blockchain stands for (decentralization).
1940  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2022, 01:17:16 AM
Bitcoin Historical #Bitcoin prices on this Thanksgiving day Buy and Sell..

2010: $0.28 (Buy)
2011: $2.25 (Sell)
2012: $12.66 (Buy)
2013: $793 (Sell)
2014: $375 (Buy)
2015: $328 (Sell)
2016: $738 (Buy)
2017: $8,743 (Sell)
2018: $3,895 (Buy)
2019: $6,935 (Sell)
2020: $19,091 (Buy)
2021: $57,198 (Sell)
2022: $16,554  ([Buy and HODL ✊💯✅])

From the annual price of this bitcoin we can understand that it is definitely the right time to hold our bitcoins.

That's some incredible TA right there. If you're sure it's definitely true, then I'll continue holding. Glad I saw your post in time, I was about to sell.

I agree. Thats quite the TA... Quite a rare event of incredible TA.
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