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2041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2022, 05:20:52 PM
Happy Bitcoinween everyone!

My costume will be a Bitcoiner. A bankers worst fear.
2042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin - How high can it go? on: October 31, 2022, 03:42:23 PM
I currently have 3% of a Bitcoin having started dollar cost averaging in June after the crash. 

It is not a lot but it is slowly growing and I have many other Altcoins I am invested in so can't put everything into Bitcoin.

I am wondering what everyone thinks this the price of Bitcoin can realistically get to? $100k? $250k? $500k? $1m?

I am happy holding Bitcoin for the next 10 years or more if it reaches these prices above.

I am just debating if I should continue to DCA into Bitcoin or sell all and put into stronger altcoins which will see better ROI over the next few years.



There are almost what, 8 Billion people on earth? Not accounting those part of some lost tribe who do not have internet and live in some backwoods area with absolutely 0 contact to civilisation, I would say we definitely have not even seen the beginning of what price Bitcoin can reach. But Bitcoin is slowly but surely becoming adopted worldwide by everyone and at some point I truly believe it will become the one and only global money. So 1 million per Bitcoin is the smallest estimate I can give you. I don't doubt it will go beyond even that. Only time will tell though. Huh
2043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it really possible to quit on these reasons on: October 31, 2022, 02:19:00 PM
You can when you won a huge amount
There's a discussion here of a guy who won a huge amount but added that he is quitting gambling is it really possible, anyone here have done quitting after winning a huge amount

You can when you lose a huge amount
This is the most popular reason to quit have you done this only to come back

You can anytime you want
Do you have the power to do it anytime that you want.

You have to when you're wife tells you to
I know a lot of guys who quit gambling for good after their wives tell them to, do you know of someone, or at one time you are one of them.

Let's discuss this and thank you for participating.


I think most people here have the mental ability to quit whenever they want. However we should not say that lightly since there is a considerable amount of people who happen to have huge addiction problems when it comes to gambling and cannot just up and leave when they want.

Losing or winning any amount of money has shown in the past to not be relevant when it comes to wanting to feeling just another rush from the risk of losing or winning money in some gambling game. So I really doubt that will convince most people to stop. Even millionaire winners seem to always come back to gambling.

As far as wives go... Well. That might be an effective way to stop gambling when your marriage is on the line.
2044  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are five things you will do if you win huge amount of money?? on: October 31, 2022, 01:31:26 PM
What are the major five things you will do if win huge amount money?. Is it to buy are car or start a business?        Let's discuss about it together.

Well, seeing as you are asking this kind of question in a forum dedicated to users who invest in cryptocurrencies, especially Bitcoin, because they know them to be the future, I would say most of people here would invest a large portion of their winnings into crypto. At least, that is exactly what I would do. And since I gamble with crypto in the first place, I would not even have to do anything other than hodl in order to achieve that.

A part would go to my family. I would buy them everything they need, obviously. I mean whats the point in having money if you don't spend some of it to improve the lives of the people you love?

Not sure about the 3 other things I would do.

2045  Economy / Gambling / Re: I won 1500 dollars on a ufc fight + quit gambling on: October 30, 2022, 08:28:33 PM
I decided to bet big today on allen orland made around 1500 usd in profit today. On a  fight.  

Knew for sure he is gonna win.


Last week i made 9000 dollar in accident. I. Huge profit decide to quit gambling until 2023.


Here proof that im real man and i won:

https://www.loom.com/share/b6e6e779f2554471946f76092bde6495

Congratulations on your very nice winnings! 10.5k profit is really nice but since your winnings are so large I would wager a guess that your bets are also quite grand. I feel like you might be leaving out the amount you lost when before that :S But I do not want to bring your mood down, so I will just say congrats.

I also applaud the incredibly smart decision to step away from gambling for a while so you can cool down from the excitement of winning that much money. It would be in human nature to continue gambling because you "feel" as if you are on some sort of "lucky streak". And consequentially losing all your money by doing so. I know thats exactly what I would do in your position. :S
2046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Dogecoin - History repeating itself on: October 30, 2022, 02:44:19 AM
I have been seeing Dogecoiners absolutely giddy about Elon Musk and over whether he will integrate Dogecoin into some Twitter-profit-scheme. This has led to a superficial pump in speculative nature. Why do people believe that Elon is not going to simply drop Dogecoin in the future?

Lets take a look at a similiar memecoin and its history:

Shiba Inu.

SHIB is in the top 13 on CMC and must therefore be a good investment, right? Wrong. It's trading at less than 15% of its ATH and is barely surviving.

Remember when it first came out? The idea was to do what most shitcoin devs were doing at that time and send most of the tokens to the wallet of a famous personality (Vitalik Buterin) in order to prove that the SHIB devs could never rugpull their investors and crash the price - they thought Vitalik would never touch SHIB as if there was supposed to be some unspoken, sacred bond between him and this ERC-20 token. Nobody expected Vitalik to donate the shitcoins/memecoins sent to him and crash the markets. Yet he did. Not all of them. Nonetheless the concept of a rugpull-proof memecoin failed. Vitalik did not care about the value of SHIB or the investors of SHIB. And so SHIB crashed and today has yet to recover even a fifth of its ATH price.

Now we have history repeating itself. Except this time with Dogecoin and Elon Musk as its only pillar of support.

I believe Musk is an egomaniac who only cares about the attention he gets from doing things like buying Twitter, making unsustainable cars or half-baked self landing rockets. He is just a bored multi-billionaire who wants more attention. Do people really believe DOGE can survive without Elon Musk backing it?

I for one will not be wasting my time or money just because some useless memecoin did what all cryptocurrencies do every now and then by pumping a decent 50+%.
2047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2022, 01:20:48 AM

Don't get me started on understanding the bush.

what is it..a horticulture thread?  Grin

typical Saturday night vibes around here...



2048  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MY FIRST BITCOIN PURCHASE. on: October 29, 2022, 05:47:10 PM
It's been nothing but JOY through out yesterday for me, as I was able to officially buy my first Bitcoin for HODL. I have been really interested in cryptocurrency lately but had no single clue of how it really works.
I then met with a friend, not just friend but a very long time friend, who have been thriving in the crypto space for guidance, and he kept giving me series of web links to go study and get back to him when done.
This is one thing I'm not really good at, which is reading for long and even writing.
I tried twice but couldn't and kept going back to him to just summarize everything and show me how to start making a living out of Bitcoin just as he was doing, but he kept referring me back to the links he sent and each time he did, I really feel bad and thought he never wanted to help me.

Two months back I took the challenge and read all he gave to me and not just once but about thrice this time, got all I needed and went back to him, but on a different note and then he told me, "WE DON'T CUT CORNERS, TO MAKING A LIVING GENUINELY." I felt that really hard and one thing he always kept singing was that I always buy Bitcoin at every opportunity that I have and today I'm so glad to announce that I was able to buy about $60 worth of Bitcoin, glad the journey of a thousand mile has began on the 28 of October 2022, And I hope it leads to greater opportunity in the industry, as I'm willing to learn ways.


Please join me celebrate my little beginning as I hope to update the community about my progress.

Congratulations on your very first purchase of Bitcoin! Remember not to make the mistake of selling out of panic, as you will definitely feel a bit scared whenever we have gigantic dips or pumps in price. And do not trade too often (if you are considering day-trading), as those trading fees can grind away all your money before you notice it. Those two things (emotional trading and trading too often) are really the biggest traps to watch out for.

If you ever need help or information feel free to post in the correct segment on this forum and we will try to help you out as much as we can!

Other than that, have fun and welcome to the world of Bitcoin! Grin
2049  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Split the prize or Reroll? on: October 29, 2022, 04:50:22 PM
Let's say you join a give away with other user and both have to select a number between 1 and 10, you go for 7 while he goes for 9. The winning number is 8.

If the prize is 0.1BTC what would you do? Split the prize and walk away with 0.05 or Reroll to gamble for the full prize?

I would probably split the prize and walk away with a decent 0.05 BTC. Anything else seems a bit too greedy and somehow feels like it would go wrong. In fact, if you were to use that 0.05 BTC to keep gambling, why on the same game? You could easily win more if you played it smart.

But this thread does raise the question of how much is considered a non-risky amount? At what point does splitting become a better option?

That probably might be different for everybody depending on their financial status such as their income and their capital. If I were a millionaire, I would not care about losing 1k. I would probably keep going and reroll.
2050  Economy / Gambling / Re: trustdice - scam, very bad site. on: October 29, 2022, 02:24:42 PM
2 days later no answer from OP? What happened mate? Taking your time gathering counter-evidence or what? Cheesy


I think the ops have already given up, as he has not updated the thread since it creates and even if he is looking for evidence he shouldn't have taken this long before he responds here.

Because the only evidence needed is screenshots of his evidence to prove the allegation against trust dice.
Why they post accusations without sharing any proof? If there’s no proof that’s a baseless accusation no matter how much it’s value. If there’s no update from OP, probably he is just messing around here. I see good reviews with Trustdice though and for sure if OP provide his proof probably this case can be solve easily.

Honestly after spending years in this forum, 90% of all scam accusation posts made here on the gambling subforums is just people wanting to vent about getting caught breaking the rules and facing the consequences. It is quite tiring but understandable. I would probably want to vent to if I lost my account/money. I would think its best to just follow the rules, though. That way you can keep playing without having to worry.

Although I am still very much against having to store your money on a third party wallet on some gambling website. All gambling should be decentralised. Otherwise who knows when some gambling website decides to go rogue? It happens. Rarely. But it happens.
2051  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Digital Bitcoin Giftcards on: October 28, 2022, 07:28:47 PM



your proposal seems like a lot of mental gymnastics to come to the same result as giving someone the seed phrase to a wallet with the gifted Bitcoin on it?
There's a different risk involved: by giving someone a seed phrase, they may actually start using that wallet, which means you have access to their future deposits. It's much better to teach a new Bitcoin user to create their own wallet, so they know for sure nobody else has access to their seed phrase.

You're right. A pre-loaded wallet is a bad idea. But asking someone to make a wallet and sending coin to that wallet would still be a better teaching experience.
One could argue that it would be better to give them the incentive to learn more about Bitcoin, Blockchain and how to make a wallet and send Bitcoin to that wallet for themselves. It would definitely suit the ultimate goal of adoption of Bitcoin better to have informed coiner newbies rather than coiners who only know how to use Bitcoin through third party apps and third party wallets. It would definitely help them out in the long run and learning by doing is really the best kind of learning.

But yeah, unless they transfer the coin to a new wallet there would be a security risk. Again, something the Bitcoin newbies should learn for themselves. But that's just how I think about it.
2052  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Digital Bitcoin Giftcards on: October 28, 2022, 03:47:55 PM
Hi, Bitcoiners I am working a new way to gift bitcoin to no-coiners. I have come up with a landing page so far: https://www.giftbitcoin.app/

Problem:
The current ways to gift bitcoin are not great. They either require kyc or the gift recipient to download a wallet.

Solution:
I am prototyping a web app that lets a gifter load btc into a local-browser based wallet and send the gift recipient a digital giftcard that lets them then redeem the bitcoin. They would then be able to setup a wallet (if they wish) , buy an amazon giftcard, swap for another crypto etc. It would be a browser based wallet so I will be able to walk the user through whatever they choose to do with the btc with the gui.

My goal is to be the easiest way to gift btc without app download or kyc causing friction in the process.

How You Can Help:
 I have done research into past examples of non-custodial bitcoin gifting apps, but I wasn't able to find any. If y'all know of any I would love to hear about them. I would also love to hear any feedback, questions, or concerns about my idea that you have. Thank you for taking the time to read my project announcement.

I am happy to see people trying to find different ways on to use Bitcoin and how to spread that coin happiness to others. So kudos to you!
However you must forgive me but your proposal seems like a lot of mental gymnastics to come to the same result as giving someone the seed phrase to a wallet with the gifted Bitcoin on it?

Either way they will have to download either a wallet, or on this case, your app? And you do not need KYC for Bitcoin wallets so that argument makes no sense.

Really anything they want to do they already can do without your app. Perhaps your apps use case should be that it simplifies the process? So instead of going to multiple places to do things with their coin (trading, buying amazon giftcards, etc.), they can outsource it all to one app?
2053  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Payed trading person to follow on: October 28, 2022, 03:13:22 PM
Hello guys,

I am looking for someone that has a group or a similar thing that allows you to pay a subscription and tells you his trading pairs...
Thank you.

99.9999% of the people claiming to give trading signals in return for paid subscriptions are scammers who have no idea what they are doing but they pretend like they are making a lot of money. If they truly made so much money with their trading, don't you think that they would not be asking for money from strangers?

I would suggesting staying far away from these "influencers" who offer something in exchange for your money. Its never worth it.

The only way to make money trading is by learning how to trade. And if you need to practice then there are money sites that offer dummy-coins on a dummy-exchange that you can practice with. Or just do thought-trading by looking at charts and documenting your "virtual" trades.

When you feel certain enough that you can make money, then and only then should you trade with real money.
2054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling techniques on: October 28, 2022, 03:02:43 PM
Martingale also entails luck + huge capital to begin win.


I would not say that Martingale needs huge capital to begin with, as long as you choose a game with the lowest bet-in and scale your funds to that bet-in. So in reality, you could scale down to pennies if you wanted to and the Martingale strategy would, mathematically, still make just as much sense as with larger bets. However if that would be profitable is an entirely different question that I cannot really answer. Maybe over a very long period of time? Perhaps it would become profitable.

However bad luck will always stand in your way no matter what kind of strategy you wish to deploy. Really thats the main argument for not using the Martingale strategy in the first place...
2055  Economy / Gambling / Re: The History Of Gambling. on: October 28, 2022, 02:15:58 PM
There are many gamblers who lose in gambling back to back, some times some times he started to gamble panicky for recovering the loss.

Isn't this the normal event in gambling?  If not then we could have seen majority of gambler being rich.  Instead we have seen lots of gambler selling their assets and properties because they suffer huge losses in their every session.


I think at the point where gamblers sell their assets and properties is way beyond the point of simple panic. The panic comes immediately after losing. In my experience if you can hold out the panicky feeling without trying to win your lost money back by doubling down then that panicky feeling settles down and you feel alright again. Or if you are out of money that you have with you at that moment, same result.

The people who take out their assets and properties belong in a different class of panic-gambler. I think. As they do not calm down, even days or weeks after gambling.
2056  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Countries that are Legal and Illegal in gambling on: October 27, 2022, 04:52:48 PM
I would not be so hasty in listing which countries have made gambling legal or illegal. Because the truth is, in every single country on earth, gambling takes place. Whether in a grey area or in a illegal black area of the law, it still happens.

Lets take a look at Japan, as an example:

Japan officially declared gambling as immoral and illegal, however despite all that the Japanese gamble. How? They simply do not gamble for "money". But rather "tokens" which can be exchanged for something worth a lot of money. For example gold. And that later gets exchanged for actual money. They do this in front of the authorities and everyone knows that the gambling laws are just a big sham that do not work.

2057  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think China will lose by banning Bitcoin? on: October 27, 2022, 04:25:35 PM
I am bullish on the future of Bitcoin as a technology.

We all know that China has a total ban on cryptocurrencies, including but not limited to no mining, no circulation, no trading, no banking services, no listing on exchanges.

What do you think countries have to lose by making this choice?

China has a lot to lose if they would allow even a smidgen of freedom for their people. Once the Chinese people get a taste of freedom, especially financial freedom through cryptocurrencies, they will definitely want more. And this is completely contrary to the ruling party strategy of controlling their people down to the tiniest detail. So obviously they will do everything in their power to prevent this. Not that they can, fully, with crypto. At some point the "ban" on cryptocurrencies will show cracks and more and more information will leak out about the world adopting cryptocurrencies. They cannot stop it.

All they are doing is prolonging the inevitable and losing out on profits from taxes.
2058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question to players: what does really drive you crazy in an online casino? on: October 27, 2022, 02:25:52 PM
The two worst things is in order of hating on it like crazy:

1. Getting asked for KYC when withdrawing winnings or some other nonsense stalling strategy which the online gambling casino is using in hopes that your money will be forfeited to them.

2. Bad user experience design. I absolutely hate it when the user experience is made as if by a toddler. Nobody knows which button does what and where you have to figure out everything as if learning a new language. And if they make the entire graphical design so awful it actually drys out your eyes in seconds just by looking at their site.

There are other things I would want to rant about, but those two things are the worst. At least for me.
2059  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will This Habit Lead You To Chase Your Losses And Addictive To Gambling on: October 26, 2022, 09:29:28 PM
Do you think it's unhealthy to always post your winnings on social media and forums because this habit will lead you to chase your losses and bet more so you can post your winning, I find this habit forming and this is bad especially if people are following you and always looking forward to your winning posts.

I do not think its a good idea to train yourself to bet for social media clout to become popular.

When it comes to betting, there is no such thing as "the most popular" way to bet. Its just not possible because the only thing that decides if you win money or lose money is luck. Or more clearly said, mathematical probability.

The probability of winning in the lottery or sports betting is much lower than winning in simpler games, such as Blackjack. So this might be "most profitable".

But either way, you should not go into gambling with a "I am doing this to make myself a social media star" mindset. You are only setting yourself up for failure and catastrophic, emotional betting after said failure.
2060  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade with a business mindset on: October 26, 2022, 03:52:17 PM
I think if more traders decided to do their trading with a business mindset, as OP mentioned, then we would definitely see waaay less emotional decision-making that ruins lives of traders because they got too greedy and too fearful.

It is quite understandable. I mean just look at the altcoin traders. For example, Luna. Anyone who was not quick enough to back out lost everything to that shitcoin scam. But then again, anyone who makes bad investment decisions is not going to be interested in serious trading in the first place. At some point trading becomes gambling. Which almost always ends badly.
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