I agree with you almost entirely.
I don't follow how the requisite of objective evidence would result in an authoritarian situation. The only authority would be the requirement to present the evidence. This would apply to all members therefore ensuring that no group could attain an authoritarian position over others. Subjectivity on the other hand guarantees this will indeed happen within the current system.
I don't believe a member should avoid conflict for self preservation if they witness tyranny or persecution. You are doing good work. Long-term you will be rewarded. Your stack of positive history affords a shield and demonstrates who you really are. We will see. I am going to keep hammering at this like I always do no matter how many BTUs of butthurt it generates. People often attack me for being so vocal about this and blather on about a "persecution complex" and the like to try to minimize my words and observations. As you mentioned my exemplary trade history here leaves me in a very unique position to not just be summarily dismissed, much like they are attempting to do with you by calling you CH, which is not a valid argument even if it was true (I don't think it is). Their only other option to silence me is to try to destroy my reputation, which they are currently attempting to engage in. The good news is, my efforts are working, otherwise they would not be trying so hard to attack me. |
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This is exactly why subjective personal opions are not to be tolerated.
All my opions (sic) are subjective and personal. Anything else would compromise my morality. If you don't agree with me, then you can use discussion to attempt to change my opinion, or just put me on ignore. I agree that trust shouldn't be a weapon, but most of those weaponising it seem to be those wielding broken swords, after they have been exposed. He is clearly referring to subjective and personal opinions when leaving trust ratings, not general discussion. |
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You have to realize there is the Chinese government (technically), then the CCP, which controls it. Essentially you should stop looking at it like a government, and more like a country run by gangsters and cartels. A country run by gangsters and cartels depends on revenue to grease the wheels to maintain order. The Chinese economy is failing, that makes its one and a half billion residents dangerous to the CCP. In that light, depopulation seems quite a bit more realistic. After all, it is not like China was already the home to the largest mass depopulation of its own people on Earth or anything... oh wait...
The Chinese economy is growing, although at a slower rate than it has in the past. I would generally view the Chinese government and the CCP to be one and the same. I am hesitant to believe this is intentional depopulation by the Chinese government because I can see scenarios in which the Chinese government is either overthrown, or its people find ways to get information to flow more freely. The Chinese government has been propping up its economy for years, if not decades by doing things such as building cities that are vacant. Effectively the CCP and the Chinese government are the same. Technically they are not. It is hard to understand here living in the West, but imagine the Democrat and Republican party merged into one, and ruled completely by gangster oligarchs. They wouldn't technically be the government, but would in all intents and purposes control it. The Chinese government and the CCP are divisible, and the Chinese people would be much better off without the CCP. The Chinese economy has not been growing for some time now, it is contracting. The last few years of "growth" are based on fraud and money printing. The USA experienced a correction when similar issues were (at least partially) addressed here in 2008-2009 in the housing market crisis and the "credit crunch". China never had this correction and continued to ride that wave of fraud. The amount of hidden debt they have dwarfs anything the US has. The "ghost cities" you are referring to are not propping up anything, but are simply a mad dash to exploit their money printing and debt exploitation as much as possible to create real assets before the system implodes. It is a lot like some one who is about to go bankrupt maxing out all of their credit cards before they file so they can get the maximum benefit out of it. They are a symptom of failure, not a way to keep the system running. I am suggesting that the threat of being overthrown is in fact motivation for depopulation. These people know once they lose their iron grip on their gangster system, they are likely to get the Qaddafi treatment. The CCP has already demonstrated they are willing to murder their own people to keep control. The people are finding ways to break free, and the events in Hong Kong as well as resistance in Taiwan and other places have them terrified of losing control. Cornered animals get vicious. |
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What incentive is there for senior accounts not to scam if a period of good behavior will result in a clean sheet. Or if you can simply act as a group to throw red around until you force others to remove their red on you? AKA the clown car, and the sad children's party magician Vod strategy. |
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The clown car has trouble containing itself. After all there are only so many clowns that can fit in it. Funny, they are so focused on being punitive they are just proving your point that people aren't free to speak here without retaliation via the trust system.
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I defended Quickseller when he was being mobbed, even thought I don't like him and he has harassed me for years at a time in the past. What do you know? People seemed to listen and let it go! Shocking.
I think Quickseller is the one who let it go. The negs are still there, but he let it go. I think you should do the same thing. It seems like you've been going for 5+ years, starting with accusing Theymos of extorting you and adding DT features just so that he could punish you. It's all in your head. That didn't happen. You need to let it go. https://i.gyazo.com/be8594465930308814592b8aa5079598.pngWait, I thought we were talking about Vod's trust abuse, and your accusation that I wouldn't argue the same for others. Funny now that that strategy backfired you want to move on to some 5 year old bullshit, almost like you are here to pursue a vendetta rather than address any of the facts of the matter. It is interesting to note you also recently left me this neutral rating: TwitchySeal 2020-02-07 " Reference Hasn't scammed anyone that I'm aware of, but has proven he does not care whether the accusations he makes of others are accurate or not in addition to a history of abusing the Trust system." Could you be pursuing your own personal vendetta because of your lack of tolerance of people with different political ideologies than you, using forum politics as an avenue of attack by supporting baseless accusations? Back to the topic at hand, how about you? Do you care to quote anywhere where Vod or Nullius substantiated any of their frivolous negative ratings against me with facts? They swear up and down they have but they have trouble quoting it for some reason. Maybe you can help them. |
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So Lauda, when am I going to get to see some of your new found reasonable approach to your frivolous negative trust ratings?
These red tags on your account are clearly not related to scamming or attempting to scam. Rather than begging for your abusers to be more reasonable, it would be best to go directly to theymos and have them punished for increasing the risk of members being scammed. They do so by devaluing the trust score to personal disagreements and attempting to silence your dissenting views. This is incredibly damaging to this forum in the two most serious possible ways. Those tags are clear examples of trust being used to silence. They accuse you of trust list manipulation, then themselves openly engage in red tag bartering. This forum has to be cleansed of such behavior. Personal disputes must be left out of the trust system. Reading back on nullius prior to his innactivity it is sensible to approach that account as purchased. It looks to be laudas alt now. Theymos should be investgating that account as per password change / reset and email and all other possible checks. I suggest that you message theymos directly and have him act on your behalf. It is a clearly attack on this forum to have such a member with long history of successful trade lacking any form of evidence of scamming or financial risk cast in to doubt. By allowing those with clear evidence of financially dangerous behaviors in their histories to red tag yourself they are devaluing the entire system. Something other than asking for leniency from their abuse must be done. There is no point getting into abuse / not abuse long term. There is no way to define abuse when it has been opened up to subjectivity as red tags have been in recent years. When searching recently for the requisites for flags it seems theymos adopted very same words that you have suggested to him in thread shortly after you discussed it with him. Perhaps he'll listen carefully to your problem. It is disappointing that other default trust members fear to rebuke and reverse this clear abuse. I have been warning all of this would happen for years. Theymos isn't going to do anything. He finds it much simpler to throw me under a bus rather than have to eat crow and admit I was right from day one, and he went overboard. Also, to act on my behalf would be to admit he moderates trust, which is something he never EVER does of course (any more). Frankly I agree with that part, it is just too bad he had to come to that conclusion after he burned my reputation leaving me with a posse of permanent detractors abusing the trust against me and an uphill battle to restore my reputation. I was happy to be uninvolved with forum politics until I was forced into it in this way. All because of one con artist troll with some crocodile tears pulled a fast one. Now you are all stuck with me  I am encouraged at least so see him take steps in a positive direction with the trust system, but they are half measures that are left so vague as to be functionally useless. If he had simply unilaterally declared there has to be some kind of observable documented evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws for leaving negative trust ratings or flags, it would simplify a lot of this bullshit, because the debate over guilt would be one of a matter of fact, not a matter of who is most popular or convincing. Instead we are left with this confusing mishmash of arbitrarily enforced half rules. He had an opportunity to make a clear break with the old system with these last updates and build a new culture around the trust system. Instead what he did was build a world class nuclear submarine, then installed a screen door on it. He chose to use very vague language with loopholes for abuse so big you could drive a bus through. It is kind of ironic some one who is clearly very focused on individual freedoms and is more libertarian minded would end up setting up a system that is effectively mob rule. This is why republics work, because without them, the majority just votes away the rights of the minority right or wrong. Then it just becomes one big popularity contest and everyone is stripped of their rights piecemeal. Requiring evidence to use the trust system to make an accusation would essentially play that role that a republic does, one of preserving the rights of an individual within a democracy. Unfortunately Theymos has this concept in his mind that having hard rules will mean this place will start becoming authoritarian. Unfortunately this place is already largely authoritarian, just in the vacuum left trying to avoid doing it centrally, now it is done by the mob instead. I have said all of this a thousand times, but people are too focused on how much they dislike me rather than the validity of my words. The truth is usually quite unpopular. |
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Pete .. . .. . projects a calming, "return-to-normalcy" vibe
While bringing in the first first man.. minority Democrats
I don't understand why he's so monumentally unpopular among that demographic.
Their racist.. [img ]https://i.imgur.com/WUjCG4l.png[/img] Blacks are also notoriously homophobic. Mexicans also tend to be very Catholic. |
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So Lauda, when am I going to get to see some of your new found reasonable approach to your frivolous negative trust ratings?
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TECSHARE has got a persecution complex that borders on paranoia, but I don't have a problem with him exercising his right to complain vociferously about whatever he thinks the mods are doing to him. I happen to think that mods aren't against him, which is generally the rule when you have posts deleted, but obviously he sees things differently and there's not much any of us can say that's going to change his mind. I've had plenty of posts deleted by moderators (and in self-moderated threads), but I've never thought any moderator was against me.
Politics & Society is probably a prickly section with much disagreement and probably some heated arguments, but I still don't think FHF is anti-TECSHARE, at least not from the evidence presented. TS would probably be better off just taking a mental health break instead of enraging himself further. There's no shame in that. I see a lot of people very obsessed with every detail of my activities here. Why exactly? Who knows. One might suspect ulterior motives with such obsessive focus on my activities, almost like a perpetual fishing expedition, but that is all in my head right? There are a bunch of "Permit Patties" running around spamming reports on my posts as an attempt at gas lighting and censoring me. The mods should know better than this, but they apparently just go with it for the most part or are not paying very close attention. At best they are unknowingly enabling this behavior. The nature of this activity means I am mostly in the dark, and the peanut gallery most certainly doesn't have a clue. There is also the fact that I can hardly ever seem to get any of the off topic posts I report removed, almost none of which are marked bad, but just ignored and left unhandled. Also all of this flurry of removed posts always just happens to align with accusations, frivolous negative ratings on my trust page, and coordinated attacks from the usual clowns. All just coincidence I am sure. You all enjoy yourselves obsessing over me if that's how you really want to spend your time though. You are helping me raise awareness even if that isn't your intent. |
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No system is perfect because there will always be people who are not happy about it. If the trust system was to be removed to day, very many scammers who were previously red tagged would be let lose and you don't want to see that happen.
Yes there are a few instances where it's being missed used because of personal egos and disagreements but you are ignoring the countless thousands of real scammers where the trust has correctly been used.
It's like suggesting scrapping the prison/jail system and releasing all the prisoners just because there was one case where someone was falsely convicted.
The number of actual scammers tagged isn't a valid metric of useful effects. It needs to be taken in the context of how many innocent users are abused using it, driving legitimate people away and increasing the con artist to legitimate user ratio. After all scammers simply return in seconds with a bought account. Legitimate users that spend the time to build a reputation just to have it be destroyed over petty shit simply leave and never come back. |
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Interesting article but I don't think that this source is valuable. It is already known that Chinese government doesn't say the real numbers but this is extremely dangerous if it is real. Burning bodies in order to show lower rates of infected people is insane. The CCP runs concentration camps where they harvest organs from prisoners without anesthesia. You think they are above burning bodies to look better? |
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I appreciate you demonstrating your obsession with me and exposing your inability to control yourself when you think you have any avenue to attack me. It does a good job establishing your accusations, that others have used to justify negative rating me, are based on your personal disdain, and not any legitimate or substantial observations. As usual, thank you for doing you part to help me raise awareness about these issues.
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I see everyone is relishing patting each other on the back over how tolerant and reasonable you all are. How about the several of you here patting each other on your backs remove your frivolous ratings you left for me as well? I won't hold my breath though, because as far as I see it, this is just a way to cheaply get some social credit to continue on with your abusive behavior elsewhere and with others. Kind of like when Vod pretends he is sorry and goes away for a week then does all the same things he was doing before.
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Correction: _You_ were talking about the CCP. A lot. Hmmm...
As a matter of fact, if the virus did jump to humans first in the 'wet market' I would take it as a strong indication that the WHO/CCP and their BL4 lab may have had nothing to do with it. Since I'm quite sure it came from a lab, being 'detonated' in the wet market guarantees that it was a deliberate act which any BL4 lab could have originated...and there are a lot of BL4 labs around and about. In other words, that it was a classic 'false flag.' Whatever you say... CCP. Not like the CCP has anything to do with China, the origin nation of the outbreak right? I think we agree that this could be described as a "false flag". The question is who benefits, and who perpetrated it. |
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When you are done with your defensive false equivalence, maybe we can get back to the topic? 'Defensive'? How so? Perhaps just a wee bit of projection going on there, amigo? Neither of us would probably shed many tears if this thing, no matter how it went down, took out the CCP, but it would be a severe disappointment to me if the peeps jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. I want the truth no matter what it is. Well we are here talking about the corona virus and the CCP and you go on a little rant about how the US is the same. No projection, just you shoehorning in some false equivalence. |
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No, unless everyone mobs you with accusations. Then you need to explain everything or else. That is unless you are one of the "special" people, then these rules don't apply to you.
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It is a well known psychology of mobs. Vod starts it off with his frivolous rating, then Lauda joins in, then marlboroza, then Nullius, then Vod again, all content in the knowledge it will be much harder for them to be held accountable in the noise.
Do you honestly believe Vod's ratings for you have nothing to do with your ridiculous rating left for him? Don't bring up "but theymos said!!!" -- everybody here knows what theymos also said. I would say its too bad you don't have a single ally on this forum, but then you might also be part of a mob. Yeah yeah, I know: I am not here to be your friend.
You're here to win, we get it. What a great salesman. If your sales suffer its because of your own attitude and actions. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see how your actions in one section of the forum affect your reputation into other sections. I suppose this is the part where you say its not fair. You're right, its not fair. Life's not fair. Now buck up and stop bitching for a change. Nobody's out to get you -- you keep getting yourself. No, I think Vod left his ratings for me in retribution for negative rating him for something he absolutely deserved a negative rating for. Thanks for pointing out it is retribution. So you think doxing and threatening users with government reports is acceptable? You are really defending Vod on that? Strange flex but ok. I know you want me to think I have no allies, but I have plenty regardless of what you believe you little mini sociopath. Do you care to share with us what substantiation you have for your accusations against me, of which both Vod's and Nullius's ratings are based on? |
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You have to realize there is the Chinese government (technically), then the CCP, which controls it. Essentially you should stop looking at it like a government, and more like a country run by gangsters and cartels. A country run by gangsters and cartels depends on revenue to grease the wheels to maintain order. The Chinese economy is failing, that makes its one and a half billion residents dangerous to the CCP. In that light, depopulation seems quite a bit more realistic. After all, it is not like China was already the home to the largest mass depopulation of its own people on Earth or anything... oh wait... I think it fair to say that the leadership of most countries of significant size, and especially most of those who have access to nuclear and similar weapons, fear their domestic population more than external enemies. That is the one force which could actually topple the leadership from power. Being out maneuvered by an adversary will cost money but won't get a guy hung from a meat hook. I wouldn't say that China differs significantly from any other comparable country in this way, but I don't have reason to doubt the general idea behind this: ...
Across China, domestic security accounted for 6.1% of government spending in 2017, the Ministry of Finance said. That translates into 1.24 trillion yuan ($196 billion) and compares with 1.02 trillion yuan in central-government funding for the military.
I believe that the U.S. probably spends a great deal more than China on internal security, but we spend such a vast amount externally in maintaining our empire that we are one of the few who actually does spend more on classic military than on internal security. I'll bet that the U.S.. As for " a country run by gangsters and cartels", I could not come up with a better description of the oligarchy which runs the United States at this time. Probably China too, but I don't know enough about the politics of that country to say one way or another. When you are done with your defensive false equivalence, maybe we can get back to the topic? |
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