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nullius 2020-01-28 Counter to counters by figmentofmyass, BayAreaCoins, and eddie13. What, is this some schoolyard game? NO BACKSIES! — The feedback provided by by Lauda, Vod, and marlboroza is factually based, and a necessary warning to anybody who is trying to understand TECSHARE’s persistent crusade to protect forum abusers, attack people who stop forum abuse, manipulate DT voting, and otherwise undermine the trust system.
Not content with just mass tagging people who are associated with Yobit, this user now thinks it is appropriate to tag people arguing against tagging people associated with Yobit. This is what guilt via association gets you and is ever expanding. As I stated before I highly suspect this user is an alt of one of the usual members that is involved in a lot of this drama as they mysteriously appeared after very long periods of inactivity with a change in language, demeanor, and suddenly hold all the same opinions of the people listed above.
Please ~nullius as they have no idea how the trust system should be used and are clearly just being used to game the system with alts.
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If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok? I guess that would be okay unless theymos says that's forbidden. Let me clarify - if Yobit told you that in order to get paid you have to post in some Yobit thread on Bitcointalk, would you have done that? Yes, now hypothetical guilt. |
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Most have probably never encountered threads about this website at all. Nor did they know how YoBit operates or what an InvestBox was.
Where do you draw the line? If the campaign puts a malware link into the signature, is that still ok? If the signature campaign asks you to post in the Yobit thread, is that still ok? BTW there was a lively debate about X10 in the signature campaign thread. That's where Yobit requested to change the signature, that's where yahoo said he was going to ask for a change, etc. If you're that ignorant then you probably shouldn't be in a signature campaign to begin with. You draw the line where guilt via association and arbitrary enforcement is not used. All of the scenarios you posted are talking about direct involvement, not guilt via association just for wearing a banner you and your mob buddies are obsessing over. Once again, none of your obsessive mobbing and tagging changes anything, it is exclusively punitive compulsive behavior to punish users and stops Yobit itself in no way. nullius 2020-01-28 Counter to counters by figmentofmyass, BayAreaCoins, and eddie13. What, is this some schoolyard game? NO BACKSIES! — The feedback provided by by Lauda, Vod, and marlboroza is factually based, and a necessary warning to anybody who is trying to understand TECSHARE’s persistent crusade to protect forum abusers, attack people who stop forum abuse, manipulate DT voting, and otherwise undermine the trust system. Like I said, you are operating on guilt via association. Now instead of just tagging people who are associated with Yobit, you are tagging people who are arguing against tagging people associated with Yobit, because clearly if they disagree with you they deserved to be tagged too. This is exactly the reason this shouldn't be happening, because this guilt via association excuse is EVER EXPANDING and has no clear line where it begins or stops. ~nullius |
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The particular form of retribution you partake in tends to take the form of mischaracterization, lies, manufacturing of narratives, and joining in mobs. I don't give a fuck who disagrees with me, I do however take exception to your use of intellectual dishonesty to serve your own narratives. This is not simply a matter of disagreement, but one of a deceptive nature.
Nah, still sounds like all the other conspiracy theories you make up about anyone who dares to disagree with you. Ah yes, one of your favorite disingenuous tactics.  |
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He makes a very good point that strikes at the heart of this issue. The conclusion that Yobit is a scam is an OPINION. There may be supporting evidence, but that is besides the point. Non sequitur. You fail at analogies. The proposition that some criminals may abuse a good service, just as criminals abuse the Internet itself (thanks, o_e_l_e_o), has no logical similarity to the proposition that a service actively cheating its own users is a scam. (Plus what o_e_l_e_o said.)  What analogy? Uh, no, actual sequitur. You are in fact using guilt via association. Additionally, as I already stated this application of negative ratings can only be applied in a completely arbitrary fashion by its very nature, thus this should be left out of the trust system. The only result of this kind of mass spamming of ratings will be to cause people to ignore negative ratings as common. It will stop nothing and have many negative consequences. |
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That's pretty dope, what are the dimensions?
It is approximately 4 inches tall, by 5 inches deep, by 3 inches wide. |
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Your assumption that I don't care about anything is false.
Why would I even be here posting about Trump investigations if I didn't care? And that's just one thing. I care about lots of other things also, including facts, which is why I pointed out that the blog you posted had a bunch of false statements. Don't take it personal. Because as I already stated, it serves your preferred narrative. Your assumption that I am "taking it personal" is false. The kind of facts you focus on are things like the kerning on the word "HINDENBURG" is off as it bursts into flames and hits the ground. You hyper focus on details so you can serve your confirmation bias and dismiss the context. |
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And your continual mobbing behavior would imply you seek retribution against anyone who dares criticize the behavior of you or your friends. I did create my own thread. That is what this is.
I don't think that's really true, I mean for example you criticize me a lot but I don't think you've faced any retribution from me unless you think that disagreeing with you is retribution. The particular form of retribution you partake in tends to take the form of mischaracterization, lies, manufacturing of narratives, and joining in mobs. I don't give a fuck who disagrees with me, I do however take exception to your use of intellectual dishonesty to serve your own narratives. This is not simply a matter of disagreement, but one of a deceptive nature. |
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Yeah I really do.
The trial is in the Senate, not the House.
It takes a simple majority vote (51) to subpoena a witness for the trial. There are 53 republicans in the Senate, so they decide who/what to subpoena or not subpoena anything at all.
I don't think they would subpoena leaders of another country since they can't really hold them accountable if they lie, but not sure. Do you really think they are considering subpoenaing Ukraine officials? The corrupt prosecutor that got fired because of Obama who only prosecuted people who supported Ukraines independence from Russia wouldn't be very credible, if that's who they're thinking about. He's shown more loyalty to Russia than Ukraine, which is why Obama, the EU and IMA wanted him gone. No, really you don't. You just pay these ideals lip service. |
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This anonymouse zerohedge blogger thinks (or wants you to think (or doesn't really care, in it for the clicks and knows how to fire you up)) that the trial was in the House and that it's Schiffs fault if the Bidens aren't subpoenaed in the actual trial, which is in the Senate, which is controlled by Republicans.
The 'Ukrainian authorities' that are considered key witnesses that should be called to testify is also hilarious. Has anyone in congress actually suggested that? This is you. You don't care about facts, due process, trials, or anything. All you care about is serving the narrative you have already decided is true. You and people like you just stand around sniffing your own farts telling everyone how sweet they smell.  |
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I already made it clear multiple times I don't have a problem with my off topic posts being removed
The number of whiny threads you create to complain about moderation would imply otherwise. Just create a reeeeee thread and set your own topic. And your continual mobbing behavior would imply you seek retribution against anyone who dares criticize the behavior of you or your friends. I did create my own thread. That is what this is. |
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To be honest, for me, talking not even hours, but days, about that coinmixer is mixing coins for criminals is absurd, because we all know that criminals use it. And we all know that criminals use the internet. Your point? X10 it is shitcoin created for pump and dump and nothing more. Except it isn't a coin at all. It can't be deposited or withdrawn. It can't be spent. It doesn't have any wallets. It doesn't have a blockchain. It exists only within YoBit. And it is not a scam. It categorically is, and no sane person can seriously argue otherwise. See my post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217581.msg53650350#msg53650350Cryptocurrencies were created to give us financial freedom and if someone wants to invest in such risky shitcoins then let them do it. It's not a coin and it's not an investment. It's a scam. If he is so stupid that he does not understand how it works, then either let him go and learn, or this is not the place for him. You will never convince me that it is ethical to promote a proven scam under the proviso of "Do your own research". He makes a very good point that strikes at the heart of this issue. The conclusion that Yobit is a scam is an OPINION. There may be supporting evidence, but that is besides the point. You and others have opened the door to justifying for tagging users who support projects which in the taggers OPINION is a scam. This is the can of worms you people open up with these kinds of frivolous and overbearing tags. Even if it is a proven fact, you are still acting on guilt via association, which is the bread and butter of any kangaroo justice system. This is why myself and others have been arguing against tagging users for their signatures very fervently, because there is NO WAY to universally and reliably enforce this rule, meaning it is GUARANTEED to be enforced arbitrarily. At the end of the day, what does any of this excessive tagging behavior accomplish? Absolutely nothing, except for destroying users reputations, and causing tons and tons of disputes of course. Yobit lives on, your abuse of the user base doesn't change that. |
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That topic is about "is he" or " is he not", not " why you". You have to understand that. If you want to talk about not related things, we can talk about this, but not in that thread and not in this thread and not in threads where you are usually doing it, for example this one. Why is it so hard to understand that moderator will (sometimes) remove off topic reply? You got your answer, so lock topic. You are mistaken, I don't have to do anything. I know you really really want to just command this entire narrative, but I already made it clear multiple times I don't have a problem with my off topic posts being removed, as long as the rule applies equally. In your case it wasn't. That was the whole point of the thread, not the tripe you continue to jibber about. |
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Apparently everyone else is allowed to joke around and post memes in Politics & Society, except myself and anyone Flying Hellfish doesn't agree with. Especially when it is mocking one of his ideologically aligned pals. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. |
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This person is obviously crazy and should be tagged.
Tagging crazy people just makes them more crazy and even lends some legitimacy to their crazy "abuse" claims. Just let them be crazy. Why would anyone interpret the behavior of yourself or marlboroza as mobbing or abusive? It is not like these strings of accusations made by all the same people are a repeating pattern any time anyone questions any of your behavior... oh wait. marlboroza 2020-01-27 Reference Using trust and moderators to silence people. Now I am using moderators, to silence people? They are just at my command now are they? It couldn't be that your posts were removed because they broke the rules now would it? Now I am using the trust system to silence people? What? |
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This isn't a Trump meme, but it was one of my favorite running gags from the 2016 election.  |
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I took one of these Loot Crate exclusive T-800 half scale heads, new in box, and modified it to include awesome battery powered red glowing LED eyes. Super intense! The switch is in the hole on the bottom as pictured in the gallery here. PM any questions. Price includes shipping to the US. Litecoin also accepted.    |
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The targeting of Quickseller is just more pointless mobbing, as I explained there.
Eh, I haven't read the most recent replies in that thread (that weren't off-topic), but from what I saw there wasn't conclusive evidence that Primenumber7 is QS's alt--and I'm sure if QS is offended by that so-called mobbing, he can stick up for himself. I doubt it bothers him very much anyway. And if he didn't have that reputation of being an escrow scammer I'm sure none of this would be a big deal at all. TECSHARE, you did go off-topic but I see your point as you weren't the only one. Who knows why your post was deleted, but just...let...it...go. I realize you think you were defending your point there, but ultimately it isn't a huge deal and you made the point you wanted to get across to marlboroza I'm sure. I frankly don't give a fuck how Quickseller feels about it. The point is this mobbing behavior is destructive to the community and shouldn't be tolerated, especially when absolutely no one has any reason why it serves any productive purpose, other than pursuing personal vendettas of course. We can avoid con artists with some simple logic and due diligence, we can't avoid totalitarian mobbing control freaks. Regarding my point, marlborozas understanding has nothing to do with it. It is clear he doesn't give a fuck and is simply joining the mob. The point is to make everyone else aware. This isn't an isolated issue for me, this is a long time pattern. Just FYI, telling me to "let it go", what ever it is, is a pretty much guaranteed to ensure I won't, so just don't. No one gives a fuck about any of this stuff until it effects them directly, then suddenly it matters again. Its always a simple solution to dismiss issues that don't effect you, at no cost to yourself of course. |
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Otoh is now the proud owner of one of the top NORFED collections on Earth! Thanks Otoh!
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Since the mods seem to think this post is on topic for some reason... What does this rating have to do with the mobbing behavior regarding Quickseller? Am I creating several threads looking for Koshgel's alts and casting more accusations like is being done here? Do I have a years long vendetta with Koshgel, like the one that is being demonstrated here? Also, several of your pals tagged Koshgel before I even tagged him. These two things are no where near comparable. This is just more "NO U!" tactics designed to distract from criticisms of your friends you don't want to be too carefully considered. |
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