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1041  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: August 26, 2015, 01:43:04 AM
My predictions is that during this process of waiting for the bitcoin split which is sooner then we think.

After that hurdle it would be great, depending on the outcome of people who dont mind for the split. And then the true growth will start since it can handle more transaction times.
1042  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: August 26, 2015, 01:40:49 AM

taxes are usually not on transactions. I'm not sure what you mean by "BTC to BTC transactions will be tax free".

taxes are usually on things like income or gains and then there's a tax in many jurisdictions on creating value (VAT)


Thats a big misconception, taxes arent on BITCOIN or USD or EUR or the currency itself.

Taxes are on you. You are the instrument that is taxed, not the currency. Or more precisely your actions/liberties are taxed. You are their tax slave and they tax your freedom (or your right) of doing an economic transactions or economic activity.

They cant tax bitcoin because bitcoin is not a living being, but they can tax you.

+1. Well-said.
So that means we will be slaves forever? Because we are alive and we are being subjected to taxation? There is no escape from this situation, other that be a homeless or quit your life and move to some 3rd world country to avoid that? Bitcoin is not cure we are waiting for?

Its slavery in a different form, then a physical one.

But intitally I get what the guys saying, as long you work and pay your tax the income you earn is obviously shredded. Most of these guys who make big money outside from banks are using third party sources for off-short accounts to reduce the tax.
1043  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: August 24, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
How in the earth can someone take over 70 % of your money in order to pay the dept. I think that you have to be willing to help. I have no words. Sorry for your lose. Hope they will refund you.

Its called people with power who has or own that system of control.

So regardless if you use that service, you basically are in risk of their procedures. The person obviously didnt know the extent of the banks financial situation which no one does and its just a victim.

It really does make you wonder, if that money was better off in cash in a vault.
1044  Economy / Economics / Re: Dollar coming to an end on: August 24, 2015, 09:21:48 PM
Dollar was dead after 1940ish due to 3 on-going war. world 1,2, then vietnam etc.

the more wars, the less value the dollar has basically in simple terms. Its a matter of what we can reduce the worst situation possible, and maybe use bitcoin for that scenario or protect your own finance from it at this point.
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: FOR F*** SAKE, MAN UP !!!!! on: August 24, 2015, 09:19:34 PM
thing is, people seems not to grasp the complexity of the matter: it is indeed highly political.

mass adoption will not improve bitcoin's store of value, it is quite the opposite actually, it will flood and drown it.

but it is so not going to happen anyway, even if you "scale it" in advance. sry people wake up.

people are too much anticipating, buying the fake dreams of them antonopoulos, gavin et al, saving the planet with free insta-frappucinos.

but it's its scarcity both in cap and transaction that will allow it to surpass any regular investment.

i mean fuck look at the damned financial markets all around the world that are on the edge of a massive collapse!

it is its robustness against human miscalculations, its decentralization, its permission-less-ness and its network's security that matters.

why always this urge of Quantitative Easing everything?

that is so wrong on so many levels and in total opposition with bitcoin's fundamentals.

i do hope its antifragility would make bitcoin rise up from xt's hashes.

but for now, gavin et al had exactly what they wanted, that is dividing the community and induce fear that it is not such a good investment.

the rules should be set in stone, and not subject to any major modification and by anyone, or that would create a precedent.

for example, just look at what them politicians are doing with the euro and greece! they rightfully fear to create that precedent of exiting that stinky zone!

but hopefully, not like the euro, bitcoin is an investment! not cash, not pocket money!

it is a Privilege, as in the privilege of securing your wealth from the banksters and bypass them!

so bitcoin is bound not to be free to transact with. nevermind, just HODL ffs!

otherwise it will just be a pale copy of visa/mastercard/paypal and it will sink, because it simply cant compete.

thats why its price is stalling now. you cant have both an investment and pocket money. by definition it is not the same.

so get your shit straight and tell them egomaniac forkers to gtfo of bitcoin! starting with them two usg moles gavin and hearn.




Well said Sir, +100000

But we already seen "large volume transaction", unless you are referring to even greater ones then the gambling transactions.

The level we see is most are used for gambling so unless the other volume is used for actual commerce then thats a different hurdle.
1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: New low? on: August 24, 2015, 09:17:59 PM
I think the true price range would be high mid 100ish like 170 until people figure out what xt will do.

Most of it is because we dont know how the whole xt situation will do after the hard fork is done.
1047  Economy / Economics / Re: A good day to buy hard? on: August 24, 2015, 09:11:11 PM
If the price gets any lower to that price, I have a feeling it`ll drop even further.

And thats much of a scare since the average person isnt tune with the technical aspects of bitcoin split. Or they have concerned questions to ditch the coin of what XT will do for bitcoin.

1048  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: August 24, 2015, 09:07:21 PM
At this point it would be nice to have more then 70% in gold, then bitcoin.

Ever since with the technical scare with how people and the bitcoin split the price is dropping and I rather seek for security like everyone else.
1049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is crashing. Why? :( on: August 24, 2015, 09:05:05 PM
BTC is going toward $200 unfortunately, only by then it will take another decision (going up or keep going down)

That's scary thought though.

You know what's even scarier? Not that the price is falling, but if bitcoin never existed in the first place. It's just how the market plays out its own games on people. The price is based on how people react to certain events. Up or down, it is the people in the markets who decide. There's nothing scary to it, unless you put your life savings in it at stake.

The world with no options would really suck, cause then any banking crisis we just take it like a champ without moving our money.

I think most people under appreciate that bitcoin itself exist to protect our money from those events happening..
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 bitcoins. Will I be a millionaire by 2020? on: August 24, 2015, 09:02:45 PM
Rates are still low to be a millionaire lol.

Well for the non-whale who has coins atleast, unless you got coins when they were $1 or way less different story.

Its at low $200ish now ever since the split with bitcoin going to happen.
1051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Better Sell... on: August 24, 2015, 08:54:22 PM


This picture explains everything on how the stock market. lollll.

Its better to sell all those shares to eventually be a 1% of a bigger money transmitter that`ll be used in a technical way eventually.
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is crashing. Why? :( on: August 24, 2015, 08:50:53 PM
Its just of how people percieve with the new hard fork update.

Some people want to see the bitcoin not split up, some are forced to saying if we do go with the change how does transactions would react for old core users.
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin down because of people panic buying precious metals on: August 24, 2015, 08:49:21 PM
Its hitting hard, but I think the main reason is due to the fact where we are almost really near with the "fork situation".

And also the fact that they arent sure people are willing to see people want to see bitcoin split.
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: FOR F*** SAKE, MAN UP !!!!! on: August 24, 2015, 08:46:50 PM
despite those awesome words from warren buffet.

didnt he also say he doesnt believe in bitcoins or something lol. Or he just doesnt invest in something he doesnt understand, which is why he stated "he doesnt believe in bitcoin".

regardless of which, I think bitcoin is here to stay.
1055  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 24, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
You get rich if you can learn how to leverage your time.

Then if anything focus on a business that also scales so its not you just working 1 on 1 with the business.

Allows you to free up focus time elsewhere or refine that business eventually becoming a six figure one. Obviously though, everything said is easier said then done.
1056  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Selling erotic photos of my wife - Please help me on: August 24, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
No way you will get 20 BTC... and without posting a sample image...

Hold on, let me send you a picture that will be "claimed" as my wife.

And then you can send me the 20 btc. loll. Op, you need to re-do your claims. You also need to provide the girl showing your btctalk id as well.

Best of luck, and re-arrange the price a bit since most  members arent willing to shell out so much btc for nude pics.
1057  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: BiPolarBob's Tell-A-Joke Round #1 (Prize: 0.12345 btc) on: August 21, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
I asked a hooker if she accepted bitcoin. She told me no because it goes up and down more than she does.

You get my vote +1

Hahah, brb now it reminded me to go fap.
1058  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: BiPolarBob's Tell-A-Joke Round #1 (Prize: 0.12345 btc) on: August 21, 2015, 07:25:00 PM
Heres my horrible attempt #1

Payment options

Q: What do you do when youre out of paypal money to subscribe on twitch? Do you rage quit and be salty?
A: Keep Calm and click the hidden tab more payment options > select Bitcoin.  (Kappa)



1059  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [ATTN] Free .1btc giveaway it pays to write on: August 21, 2015, 06:51:12 PM
I have been contacted by the op to escrow for this and I have agreed, we are just working some things out, I'll make a confirmation post afterwards Smiley

Yeah, I fixed some changes, replied on pm.  Smiley



He's right. And what is the assurance that we will get what you say 0.1 btc giveaway? You said only 50% of the earnings so means if the account gets about 0.08 btc 50% of that is 0.04. That is not near 0.1 btc. You should state here the actual earning status of your account so it can be clear how much we can earn from what you are offering.

The assurance is the escrow that is placed with a reputable escrow like anyone else on the forum, when you purchase anything.

 If someone wins, the winning person gets the escrow release pretty simple. Feel free to pm Monbux about escrow.

As for the other question with 50% earnings, this is already earned on a signature campaign that many people are already on and its on random. I didnt state on earning .1 btc, you get a chance to win it just by participating so its not a earnings.  Smiley

Many of these are random and highest signature campaigns, which you compare: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0


Sorry, still not clear for me.

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Step 1: PM me or the escrow provider "Monbux" to start escrow then deposit .1 btc escrow, (or) provide a full member account  
Step 2: Wait for a escrow copy & paste w. the quote below, and begin posting with our account login provided, but follow the signature rules.  
Step 3: Earn 50% - paid per month

1.- We send 0.1 or an account as collateral to the scrow... that's clear
2.- The scrow send us an account and we start posting from there. Clear too
3.- Earn 50%? but 50% of what? You have those accounts farming on signature campaigns?

and if that's the case, why the tittle say "Free .1btc giveaway"? that's a lie, it is not free, and is not a giveaway. you are paying people for your signature farming.

And you have some tricky rules there:

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-BTC deposits are only kept if there is abuse on the account - then Monbux will keep your deposit
-Account logins will be kept only if there is abuse to the lenders account - then Monbux will keep your account


If something fail you will keep the 0.1 or the account, and we are talking about a full member+ account, if you keep some accounts you can get more people to farm with it and make from this a round business...

I wish you good luck with your farming, but don't try to camouflage is as a giveaway because is not.

Okay so everything is clear, but #3.

Thanks for pointing that out, I went ahead and updated that these are on signature campaigns.

As for the the title, its based on qualified participation - like how people say eg: "go follow my twitter, and share our tweets for a chance to win btc" as qualified social participation.

I updated the rules of details of whats considered as abuse, if people arent aware of it already.  Tongue

Its fine to slander me on farming accounts, I know most already do it. Thanks..
1060  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [ATTN] Free .1btc giveaway it pays to write on: August 21, 2015, 06:30:48 PM
so this is basically forum account for rent?

Yeah, but your trust determines you`ll use it for abuse eg: scam, or other related activities.
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