I dont think there would be any bagholders, since most of the bad events already have happened.

Unless something huge happens like a technical issue within the core itself, or like coinbase shutting down for no reason that effects the community.

mt.gox? or you mean like having no more mt.gox situations.

All the elements you mentioned can actually happen within the same year. Its just a matter of time those twins get something right.

sent another pm   if you didnt get it, i`ll send another one.

Just shoot me the price again, and I can pay you etc.

if anything bitcoin, I feel like its catching up real quick at its own speed.

Its pretty crazy how we saw it match gold at one point, and we all know how old gold is..

As for the fiat, we have way too much since its more of a socialist view for banks to get bailed out every single fuken time. True capitalism works, because you let it fall theres no such thing as bail outs. Socialists for the rich, true capitalism for the poor. wtf.. 

Overall trend is a downward hill, since its correcting itself from the past events.

But, then again there can be an event something positive which shows elsewhere. Esp, if it gets to reddits top page, making people react.

To the trolls, its more of a gratification response, I think.

I mean I wouldnt be praising over 3-4 dollar difference either lol. Not only that, they just wanted a free cup of coffee at mcdonalds I guess.

Some people just say its dead, since they see no direction with it.

And the negative PR it gets, plus they been too tired to see the price influctions to a point where they just gave up on the coin.

Not realistic enough lol.

Not downing on your dream, but some of us want to see realistic scenarios, not like what we saw at mt.gox.

I know you want to see those kinda events again, I mean who wouldnt, but now its more of what will actually move us forward. 

im assume the closer we get to the point we cant mine anymore, which it is already now its not for profit.

since most cant keep up with the cost of it, just know the coin will always used for money laundering so im always selling it.

Oh okay, I read something different on with mt.gox.

Something like about phantom deposits, but i`m sure it was a mixture of both. isnt there some tool that exchanges can use to verify orders are from people, not bots? how do you stop this bot crazy orders then.

Its intresting to see how a alt coin can be up, and bitcoin can be down.

Like that itself is so wrong in all levels, esp when bitcoin was the foundation for all these alt coins. If bitcoin goes down, theres no value for litecoin imo.

That picture that op, posted really doesnt justify really anything.

For all you know, it can go back up for whatever reason, yeah its a downtrend but you dont know the future regardless.

1 or 2 isnt a huge quantity, the minimum purchase is 20 units for direct providers.

Depending on the provider, and this coming from experience on talking to a rep. You can try contacting people like zoomhash who already does this though, and click the wholesale section.

http://zoomhash.com/pages/wholesale

I forget, but if you check out the gambling section of the investors side or something, there was something called the watchers list.

That list was filled with "supposedly" legit sites that held more then 5 months, which some did. But that thread was all based on that op`s ponzis which raked a ton of bitcoin I bet.

Bottom line: dont leave money on the table, if you cant afford the loss.

just curious, how did you come up with your price?

not to try to call you out on it or anything, but whats your thoughts on the price from .5-.7? like the person mentioned.

is that even possible though?

I`m unfamiliar how bots can change the price, is it since they buy only at frequent times? or false orders?

Yeah, the odds are a bit slim. I remember reading an article some guy, forgot about his cold wallet or something and his wife got mad at him for mining bitcoin so he stopped.

Like anyone who doesnt have the desire to convert it, thats like 1% or a small crowd. Im a believer in bitcoin, but sometimes I need cash and love more for profit then anything else.

well what would consider it to then?

a brick of gold? I would enjoy that over fiat instead, but I dont see anyone doing that lol. If this is possible, then please show me the way cause I`m well aware that the fiat we exchange from bitcoin is only a temporary solution for what its actually worth.

I just asked my friend if he would buy bitcoin if it was on the exchange of nasdaq, he said yeah but only used for day trading..

So thats pretty intresting to hear, since most bitcoin daytraders now have the ability to it on the traditional side as well.

If you see this big picture down trend, what do you think would be the bottom.

I mean do you think it`ll head to $10 per 1 btc? or ever go back down that far?

Some people will mention, yeah it`ll never hit that price again, but how do you know its the bottom lol.