Buddy either your ponzi better start paying or you repay what was sent to you - these are your only options, or kiss your trust goodbye
Lol, your negative trust hardly matters as yours is already red. It'll merely show up if you chose to check his profile and try to find it. You know he's not going to repay, he's a ponzi owner, this is how he makes a profit. Lying and telling his wallet is hacked ( as if that happens if you're not completely handicapped ) and not paying back.
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There's always a chance that you get paid with profit if you enter a ponzi scheme, no doubts. However, if you do, you're contributing to building the trust of the ponzi owner who ALWAYS will end up scamming someone. You have a responsibility to make sure you don't write "I got paid, keep investing guys" in the thread after you get paid, because that will lead to people getting scammed.
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After new rules many singature campaigns are going to be dead and some losing very active members every where silent is this ok or no If you would not be here without the signature campaigns, you shouldn't be here at all. Nobody said anything like that. Most people see the signature campaigns as extra incentive / encouragement. Nobody said "lol i don't get paid as much as before so i'm gonna stop posting". You're right, if someone has that philosophy they don't belong here. However that said, advertising campaigns are not something for cheap people.
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...You can sell/advertise/buy things that are illegal in other countries, if you market them towards customers who live where whatever you are buying/selling isn't illegal... No matter how many times you repeat that, it's still as wrong as it was the first time. Quoting to save time: If you want to discuss the rationality of your argument (which has nothing to do with IRL law), your reasoning goes something like this: You: Your honor, though this is an English forum administered by an American person, from American soil, the advertising is aimed at MARTIANS. Judge: Say what?You: Martians, your honor. Does Mars have a body of law regarding Ponzi schemes? Judge: Whata...You: Huh, thought not! Well, the ads are intended for Martians, where Ponzis are perfectly legal. Judge: I see... Well, that certainly puts a new spin on things... ... wirrr... *smoke pours out of Judge's louvered vents*You: Checkmate! *smile triumphantly*Is this how you think law works, Salty?
@surfer43 (below) No, they are illegal, period. What you are describing is some of the ways they are prosecuted. Full text you're quoting from here: http://www.ftc.gov/public-statements/1998/05/pyramid-schemesThe scheme in question, MakeBTC.org, is also clearly misrepresenting itself as an investment: "MakeBTC's unique investment system allows you to provide yourself with future wealth! You will earn residual bitcoin income over time as the website evolves."Fraudulent scheme is fraudulent. You absolute idiot. Nobody stated that you could advertise anything you wanted as long as it was legal in whatever country you were DIRECTING the ads towards, which is what your made up stupid scenario is implying. Get your facts straight and stop putting words in people's mouths. You've already lost, give up.
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no one can predict about that far for sure not even an approx guess will be close you can definately predict about month or two later like i've heard that by the end of April btc will be somewhere around 1k (fingers crossed). everyone was predicting and hoping that btc will cross 2k but since the gox mess things have been changed Every month so far has begun with "By the end of this month BTC will be worth [insert any amount that's higher than current worth here]." 15 days in to the month "Whops, well this was just another crash, but stick around, next month it will rise!!!".
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People can think for themselves, stop thinking you're smarter.
What? If people can think for themselves, then it's entirely possible that the OP is smarter then them. You know what I mean. My opinion is OP is someone who's very into gambling, is annoyed he missed out on some of these ponzi's so has a personal vendetta against them and those who take part, simply because of his own choice (hence all the name calling) No, people who use ponzis are idiots, see reasons above.
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Kids, reading is basic... OP, original post: I know what the discussion originally was about, however what I spoke about with the other newbie account when you interfered and tried to save his embarrassed face was not about makebtc.org, if you would've read the posts and understood the context, you'd know. Remember, reading is basic.
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I will be here and posting without regard to sig campaigns although they are a slight encouragement.
Lots of people think like you. They like posting here, they find it interesting and discussions entertaining and giving, and advertising campaigns are only a slight incentive to do so. What I find sad is that they reduced the incentive to do so for the honest people on this forum only because a small % were spam posting till their fingers bled ( which was already not allowed and could've been reported ) to get paid. Collective punishment in my eyes.
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works well....but sometimes,specially when the reward is like 4,7 µBTC,we need to view the same ad twice before it gets credited....appears strange.
You don't need to view the ad twice, you can shut down the tab that didn't give you credit and start over. You lose like 10 seconds tops, just pay attention if the previous payment adds to your balance or not. I try this but not good result mostly waste of time because many adds 2 time visit to add funds in account I'm sorry that it's working for everyone else except you then. :/
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@apsvinet I have never explained the difference between gambling websites and Ponzi websites, foolishly assuming I was dealing with adults. My apologies, here you go:
A gambling website does not misrepresent itself as a form of investment, as makebtc.org, the website in question, does. Since you can not be trusted to follow imbedded links, I'll quote some of the relevant text:
"MakeBTC's unique investment system allows you to provide yourself with future wealth! You will earn residual bitcoin income over time as the website evolves." (boldface added 4 extra lulz, color added because otherwise u'd miss it)
As far as your inability to "decipher a bunch of letters" -- those are called "words." The ability to synthesize letters into words, and, in turn, derive meaning from the aforementioned, is called "reading and understanding" -- a skill set you traded in for your exciting life of huffing paint and "investing" in Ponzis.
Jeez.
Haha, once again the miserable people who have to create newbie accounts fail to support their statements with argument, therefore directly jump to insulting anyone who claims they're wrong. We're not ( Atleast I'm not ) discussing the website that's advertised itself, but rather ponzis in general. Gambling is when you risk your money in exchange for a chance of getting it back with an added profit. ( Ponzis, rolling dice, playing poker ). Thanks for your input tho, I'm sure someone cares.
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Maybe they are still trying to find out the forum flaws?
Or perhaps they're prioritizing other things forum related, like reworking the signature rules and such?
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Haven't played in it. I'd stick to more reputable sites until you can smell a scam from a mile away.
No matter how reputable a site is you are gambling anyway. There is a difference between gambling with your money in the sense that there's a chance you'll lose it, but in return there's a chance you'l win back the money you risked + a profit, and gambling in the sense where you THINK you have a chance of winning back your money with a profit, where in reality the owner of the gambling site is collecting enough cash to run off with. Reputable sites are better, you can't argue with that. Try a real site, like Primedice.
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btc will most likely be about 1000$ in the mid or end of April so hope for the best and fingers crossed !!
any reason why. I have a theory as to why all coins will spike mid april or possibly a little before or after. just like to hear your reason first. Then I can drop my wisdom and if correct maybe I can start another one of those {pay for advice} things lol. you see that 'finger's crossed' thing, that's his reason it's called hope, wish, and/or prayer, it's obvious what's your reasoning, hopefully it has some foundation in logic Sorry mate you just seem to be another contrarian who has nothing better to do than to tell people they're wrong on an internet forum, otherwise it's hard for you to feel like the smartest person in the room. I've so far not seen any convincing evidence from your part. Speculation is speculation, whether you're hoping for btc prices to drop, or rise, it's not in the hands of you to decide. Time will tell, not some random guy on a forum. Peace.
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^ No. We are asking Theymos to stop promoting Ponzi schemes on this forum.
Go ahead, and once again explain to us what the difference between a ponzi and another gambling site is, and I will, once again, explain why you're wrong.
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If ponzi scheme is illegal in everywhere, why are there a lot of ponzi threads on Gambling board? Either ban all ponzi threads and ads or allow them. If threads are allowed, ads should be allowed too.
There are things that people try not to do, without needing laws to specifically prohibit them. Farting at the theater is one such thing. Advertising Ponzis is another. I swear, this is like arguing with a 4-year-old. Yeah, I absolutely feel like I'm arguing with a 4 year old when I'm replying to your endless hate posts. Nothing wrong has been done here, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. That's how life works. Nobody is forcing you to use a forum that's advertising something you dislike. Lol, the "NO U!" rebuttal. Next you'll be tying ur own shoelaces. As tedious as this is, I'll repeat: I use Bitcoin. What you do on this forum affects Bitcoin. You're fine with shitting up where you sleep, but the rest of us have to deal with the stench. No, letting you continue your aspie doings ain't happening. You brag about your freedomz to rape and get raped, but when "OMG surprise butsecs!" finally happens, you run whining to the media and the law. And then shit press, new regulations, and everyone ragequits. Latest Wired article ends on: "Meanwhile, Bitcoin users are dealing with the bankruptcy in their own way: by creating a new currency to buy and sell rights to the lost bitcoins, should they ever be recovered." (implicit ) Followed by comments which could be tersely summed as "ROFL!" I couldn't decipher 1 single reasonable argument out of the bunch of letters you just mashed together in that last reply. "You brag about your freedoms to rape and get raped, but when "OMG surprise butsecs!" finally happens, you run whining to the media and the law." What medications are you on that made you type a nonsense sentence like that? The owner of the site is allowed to do whatever he wants with it as long as it's not illegal, which it's not. All your arguments have been smashed to pieces and you're left here, embarrassed, having fled to a newbie account that you just created to not lose your own reputation, jumping on others and throwing wild insults and obscenities their way. You lost.
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After new rules many singature campaigns are going to be dead and some losing very active members every where silent is this ok or no I guess it's ok, the mods wanted to see less spam and so they did. However there is still a lot of spam, it's not gone, however the amount of good and helpful/interesting posts ave also decreased. You can view the discussion in the thread in the meta section. In my humble opinion the mods didn't have a lot to say to defend the changes except that it stops spam (which they're technically right about), but there were no responses to the other problems.
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works well....but sometimes,specially when the reward is like 4,7 µBTC,we need to view the same ad twice before it gets credited....appears strange.
You don't need to view the ad twice, you can shut down the tab that didn't give you credit and start over. You lose like 10 seconds tops, just pay attention if the previous payment adds to your balance or not.
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I fail to see this as a viable way to make a monthly income, lol. However quite cool, thanks for sharing.
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Maybe you can introduce a black person into Bitcoin.
Or perhaps you can introduce anyone to Bitcoin, irregardless of their skin color. #pc
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If ponzi scheme is illegal in everywhere, why are there a lot of ponzi threads on Gambling board? Either ban all ponzi threads and ads or allow them. If threads are allowed, ads should be allowed too.
There are things that people try not to do, without needing laws to specifically prohibit them. Farting at the theater is one such thing. Advertising Ponzis is another. I swear, this is like arguing with a 4-year-old. Yeah, I absolutely feel like I'm arguing with a 4 year old when I'm replying to your endless hate posts. Nothing wrong has been done here, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. That's how life works. Nobody is forcing you to use a forum that's advertising something you dislike.
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