No one has a guess? No one wants to think about it out loud?
Maybe get a few and see if you can get a bitstream running on them? It sounds interesting, but I doubt anyone has developed any firmware for them. |
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I wonder if a miner could potentially make money by accepting transactions that are "stuck" for a fee.
For example, I send 1 BTC to another address, and it requires a fee. I opt to not add the fee. The transaction is stuck for a week, and I am tired of waiting for it. I can then go to [cooperating mining pool]'s website, where I find my transaction and click the "expedite" button. It asks me to send 0.1 BTC to an address, with the promise that they will include the transaction in their next block.
Or is there a better way to clear transactions that will otherwise never go through?
I like that idea. |
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Anybody can claim any BS. I have 1000 GPUs and I am the 1.5 THash/s mystery miner ! I want some concrete pictures showing 5 rooms full of miners etc.
This guy has the evidence for the botnet methinks. No proof he owns all that himself.
Listen, fuck you. Just because you are not able to do it yourself does not make it impossible! Take for example amazingrando's operation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75126.msg860825#msg860825EDIT: Anyways, I recognize that logo. It's P4Man's profile pic. |
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Does he mean an ASCII text version suitable for pastebin? That would be a plus. |
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I mean, their Great Firewall has successfully blocked Tor. Technically, there's nothing stopping them from blocking the bitcoin network either.
I'm using TOR just fine from inside China right now. It has no problem connecting at all. I also have some other BIG news that I will post tomorrow. If implemented, it will guarantee that the bitcoin network can not be blocked. Oooh do tell, can we have a sneak preview? What tech, IPv6? DNS tunneling? UDP? |
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Shouldn't the blank penny be worth less than $0.01, because it is intended to be 1 cent, but it is faulty?
Even non-"faulty" pennies are worth more than $0.01 because of the copper content. |
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Any APIs (HTTP or otherwise) to retrieve status, statistics of your miner?
This. I would like to see some ANUBIS like web monitoring for an entire farm. Don't waste time/resources trying to do it yourself just provide a mechanism to get low level data via an API. Like others have mentioned, I think it will only be used for firmware upgrades, and you can stick with cgminer etc for your large farm needs. Hopefully they will release more details of device communications, so the cgminer et al can get some nifty features like making the front LED blink on command. |
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luke-jr is virtualizing gpu's with kvm. I'll try to dig up that info or have a conversation with him or see how he likes this thread.
You know, I did discuss it with him months ago, but that was only the most basic bare minimum of information, because I didn't have compatible hardware. I'll need to grep my IRC logs to see if he gave out any technical information. All I remember was that it was 1 GPU and that it kept crashing. EDIT: I found some stuff, and I know there is more, but I can't be bothered to find it all right now. Dec 26 19:54:12 <rjk2> gmaxwell: i thought there was a driver limit of 8 gpus maximum
Dec 26 19:54:28 <gmaxwell> Driver. Yup.
Dec 26 19:54:35 <gmaxwell> So run multiple copies of the driver. :)
Dec 26 19:54:55 <gmaxwell> (according to luke the ati drivers work in kvm with the pci remapping stuff)
Dec 26 19:55:35 <gmaxwell> so in _theory_ you could start two VMs, map 4 cards to each and run 16 GPUs on a system.
Dec 26 19:55:45 <gmaxwell> (presuming you could plug in that many)
Dec 26 19:55:58 <gmaxwell> (and presuming your motherboard doesn't catch fire)
Dec 26 19:57:38 <rjk2> I have been trying to find someone that has actually been able to mine successfully in a virtualized environment
Dec 26 19:57:48 <gmaxwell> luke-jr:
Dec 26 19:57:52 <rjk2> i know it ought to work
Dec 26 19:58:16 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: only with motherboards/CPUs that support it
Dec 26 19:58:44 <rjk2> vt-d, and iommu right
Dec 26 19:58:49 <luke-jr> VT-d in my case
Dec 26 19:58:54 <rjk2> but does it work well?
Dec 26 19:58:55 <rjk2> stable?
Dec 26 19:58:58 <luke-jr> also, Intel pulled a big scam earlier this year
Dec 26 19:59:02 <rjk2> because i want to try it
Dec 26 19:59:09 <luke-jr> well, my Radeon still manages to crash my host system sometimes
Dec 26 19:59:17 <rjk2> hmm
Dec 26 19:59:25 <gmaxwell> rjk2: you get diminishing returns packing more cards onto one system. ::shrugs::
Dec 26 19:59:26 <luke-jr> usually when I try to reinitialize it
Dec 26 19:59:30 <luke-jr> which is mostly playing around
Dec 26 19:59:38 <luke-jr> if I knew a proper way to do that, it might be OK
Dec 26 20:00:09 <rjk2> what i wanted to do was use intel vt-d with built-in video powering my desktop environment, and discrete cards mining
Dec 26 20:00:23 <luke-jr> rjk2: tht's what I do
Dec 26 20:00:24 <rjk2> z68 based
Dec 26 20:00:46 <rjk2> luke-jr: sounds good, using kvm or xen?
Dec 26 20:01:21 <luke-jr> KVM
Dec 26 20:01:47 <luke-jr> Z68 = no VT-d
Dec 26 20:01:53 <rjk2> wait what
Dec 26 20:02:05 * catalase_ is now known as catalase
Dec 26 20:02:08 <rjk2> i know the K procs with overclocking don't have it
Dec 26 20:02:17 <rjk2> but z68 doesn't either?
Dec 26 20:02:20 <luke-jr> nope
Dec 26 20:02:26 <luke-jr> http://ark.intel.com/compare/52816,52812
Dec 26 20:02:31 <rjk2> damn it
Dec 26 20:02:37 <luke-jr> return it :P
Dec 26 20:03:13 <rjk2> is that what "embedded options available" means? VT-d?
Dec 26 20:03:19 <luke-jr> no
Dec 26 20:03:26 <luke-jr> Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d)
Dec 26 20:03:37 <luke-jr> it's exclusive to Q67
Dec 26 20:03:38 <rjk2> oh, i see its down lower
Dec 26 20:03:41 <luke-jr> at least for Sandy Bridge
Dec 26 20:03:45 <rjk2> hmm
Dec 26 20:04:01 <luke-jr> originally it wasn't
Dec 26 20:04:03 <rjk2> man that is lame
Dec 26 20:04:08 <luke-jr> but Intel bugged, and decided the solution was to fix their specs
Dec 26 20:04:20 <luke-jr> ie, they said the bug was the advertising VT-d on the others
Dec 26 20:04:31 <gmaxwell> doh! that sucks.
Dec 26 20:04:34 <luke-jr> yep
Dec 26 20:04:38 <luke-jr> but they also bugged the SATA
Dec 26 20:04:46 <luke-jr> so I returned my H67 and got a Q67
Dec 26 20:04:48 <luke-jr> :D
Dec 26 20:04:53 <rjk2> lol too true >.>
Dec 26 20:04:58 <luke-jr> though it was VERY difficult to get Q67 at the time
Dec 26 20:07:34 <rjk2> luke-jr: have you had the opportunity to test IOMMU (AMD) systems in the same manner yet?
Dec 26 20:08:21 <luke-jr> no
Dec 26 20:08:36 <luke-jr> I think someone did though, and found they had to do 1 VM per card
Dec 26 20:08:42 <rjk2> lolwut
Dec 26 20:08:44 <luke-jr> I've only tested 1 on VT-d
Dec 26 20:09:18 <luke-jr> the annoying thing is, if the card crashes, I pretty much have to reboot
Dec 26 20:09:33 <luke-jr> in theory, I *should* be able to 'remove' the card and power cycle just it
Dec 26 20:09:39 <luke-jr> but I haven't figured out how in practice
Dec 26 20:09:51 <luke-jr> even if I remove and rescan, it doesn't get reset
Dec 26 20:10:09 <luke-jr> upgrading fglrx *might* help
Dec 26 20:10:28 <luke-jr> since newer versions support hot-switching between IGP and discrete on laptops
Dec 26 20:10:58 <luke-jr> (the error I was getting found only Google results talking about that)
Dec 26 20:11:37 <luke-jr> latest fglrx *seems* to be working just as well as the good old 2.1 now tho
Dec 26 20:12:19 <luke-jr> ie, no CPU hogging, and full 308 MH/s
Dec 26 20:12:48 <luke-jr> I don't have a sane way to reproduce the card crashing though, so no idea how many months until I can confirm it reinitializes
Dec 26 20:12:48 <rjk2> is that with one card?
Dec 26 20:12:51 <luke-jr> yes
Dec 26 20:13:04 <rjk2> i built myself a mini-itx system, jsut to do that
Dec 26 20:13:04 <luke-jr> also, OpenCL is a memory hog :/
Dec 26 20:13:37 <luke-jr> rjk2: note that PCI bus, and probably PCI-E extenders, will be all-or-nothing to VMs
Dec 26 20:13:49 <luke-jr> ie, you might be unable to isolate single cards in separate VMs And, the issue requiring a restart that Luke-jr is discussing was worked around later in a different chat (put the machine to sleep, and bring it back out, instead of rebooting). |
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I'm 16 years old, and got into Bitcoin when I was 15 years old. Granted I've been programming, doing server administration, and the likes for years and years, but I was able to understand the technical aspect of it.
That said, it isn't necessary to understand the technical side of it, and is in fact a turn-off to a lot of people. It makes Bitcoin seem "geeky" and only for tech guys. If the person is really interested in the technical side of it, they can learn that after the fact.
Just introduce them to Bitcoin, I say. But then, this isn't my bounty.
+1, you nailed it. Unfortunately, computer geeks typically aren't too great at psychology which is the basis for effective marketing. People like to feel safe, secure, loved, cool, sexy, excited, etc. Nobody gives a shit about C++ or linux or FPGAs or cryptography. But, if you can convince someone that using Bitcoin makes them cooler and sexier, then you have a winner. When you have an unbelievably awesome product and you market it inappropriately, you end up where TiVo is. Why would cryptocurrency be cool or sexy? I don't see even the most hardcore Bitcoin fans in lingerie running around showing off their wallet.dat swag. You know, you're right. And since you're on the right track, why don't you tell all those beer, toothpaste, car, gum, cigarette, shoe, etc. advertisers that they don't know what they're doing. Seriously, why would beer or cigarettes or shoes ever be sexy? And for the love of god, tell Bit-Pay to get rid of that uninteresting chick who draws absolutely no attention whatsoever. Wtf were they thinking?!?!?! okay, you can go hire your own pretty model who wears shoes and smokes and drinks. |
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By the way, on the upcoming Bitcoin World Cruise.... Not only is all food is included.... but ALL ALCOHOL is free (included) as well.
Still waiting, my man. Good necro, would read again. |
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I just had a chance to have a poke at it again, and it actually is pretty nice. Although it is stuck to Eclipse, and the one dialog is broken, the rest of it seems to work. It is a tiny (414kb) executable that doesn't install, just runs. It has a useful function to blink an individual unit's front panel light rapidly for identification. It will do a test run of 100, 1000, or 3000 shares, and report back lots of useful info such as the number of throttles, number of errors, temperature, etc. The firmware upload option asks for an external file which I assume will be provided later; it is of file type "BFL Secured Firmware (*.bflsec)"   (Click for larger pic) |
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I also have many years experience with an erotic input tongue.
Cunning Linguist, I see. |
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Put this shit in the Gambling section so I don't have to see it. There's already a user there (pent) that is pushing the same idiotic scheme.
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Did you add a real picture? I only see the CAD
Scroll down. It looks interesting. |
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Now, lets say ZTEX would offer me even better bulk prices than that because I'd be buying quite a few:
ZTEX 1.15y DMC Edition is 850 mhash @ 38 watts for $516, 1.64 mh/w, 22.36 mh/w
1.15y DMC edition's peak profit is at 57 months at $766.93, or a 148% profit.
You'd have to discuss the cost of a licensed run with Ztex, but it might be possible to get it down a lot in cost that way, since you can source your own parts from your own vendors and have it built wherever you want. I know the user "antirack" has done a licensed run, but I'm not sure what kind of cost was involved. I believe he is somewhere in Asia, perhaps China. The only problem is that you would need a lot of upfront capital to get started, and would have to know where to get parts and get them assembled. |
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I just looked at their site and downloaded their new EasyMiner. I'm on my playbook atm, so that's not going to do me much good.  Has anyone started using it yet? I'd like to see some screenshots! Interesting.  I forgot to shut off cgminer first, so it seems to have hung here. Not sure whether to abort or not. I hit the "run a test" button, and the small box popped up saying it was going to do a firmware update. EDIT: I hit "abort" and it changed the display to "aborting..." but still didn't close. I then closed cgminer and nothing changed. I started cgminer again, and it started mining as usual. I don't mind if these windows want to take their time closing, but they are modal on top of everything so they are annoying. EDIT EDIT: I hit "quit' in the main window, and it quit instantly. |
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Wanna bet the FBI/CIA is forcing him to duplicate his hard drives for them, under a gag order?  Seriously Patrick, get your shit in order and start responding to this stuff. |
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That looks like one of those cookie-cutter sites that gets spammed all over the internet. I'm not sure that I would trust it with my money, but you might get lucky and score. |
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Am I missing something? I don't see anyone making any personal references to anything aside from you. Why the diatribe and further release of people's private information?
He sounds like a pseudo-businessman that doesn't know jack shit about "this internet thingy", and doesn't feel the need to keep other persons' private contact information private. |
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