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2321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: May 29, 2012, 11:52:46 PM
Beautiful! And you got serial 0001 - A collectible!
2322  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any fish lovers in here? on: May 29, 2012, 11:16:32 PM
2323  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: May 29, 2012, 10:55:34 PM
Well I was trying to get a new post written up for another thread, but it is a lot harder than I thought. The main problem I have now is that with 12 cards installed, only 11 are shown in lspci Sad

Anyways, I finally took a deep breath and dove into the wiring of the PSU, and I can say I am pretty proud of the result:







2324  Other / Off-topic / Re: 896 mh/s firmware release - Butterfly Labs on: May 29, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Is there some other metric that can be shown instead then, so that we can see when a share is invalid or not submitted due to throttle? HW stands for Hardware, as far as I can guess, so maybe you can have TH for throttle, and/or ER for error. I don't know whether they need different commands to detect or what, but EasyMiner shows separate counters for error rates and throttle instances.
2325  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BITCOIN MAGAZINE ARRIVED! on: May 29, 2012, 09:05:49 PM
I GOT MINE TODAY TOO!! Just a little late - arrived 5/29/2012 in Columbus, Ohio.



Grin
2326  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: May 29, 2012, 08:48:54 PM
Second whats to stop any entity with money to produce their own ASIC's? if you have enough money I'm sure you could get some made on intels new 22nm tech and they would outperform any Bitcoin ASIC made for the public.

Nothing, except money. Do you have a few million dollars at hand to make it work? And furthermore, there is exactly one entity outside of Intel itself that is allowed to use Intel's fabs - Achronix. And Intel has stated that they are using less then 1% of the fab capacity. EDIT: Bad info. It would need a shit ton of money though.

Second whats to stop a entity from just buying enough hashing power from BFL to attack the network?

Valid question. BFL made it sound like they would limit sales to large entities, but I don't know how they would verify that for sure.

Third what are you going to do if the proof of work system changes? ASIC's will be hard coded for the current proof of work system. GPU's and FPGA's can just be reprogrammed to work with the new system. What would you do in that situation completely redesign your ASIC and offer replacements?

There is no guarantee of a POW change any time soon, at least not within the profitability window of these devices, I should think. By that time if it ever happens, the equipment will be paid for and a new design could be created. As of currently, SHA256 is NOT in any way vulnerable or in need of replacement.

There are ways that ASIC's can be very bad for bitcoin especially if one company has a monopoly over the whole market and abuses that power (which is illegal in the US where BFL is based)
There are also many ways that they can be very good. And do tell about the monopoly - who are you going to call, anyway? It's an absurdity to state that they would have a monopoly for very long at all, when the cost of entry into the "monopoly" is only a few million dollars.
2327  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: May 29, 2012, 08:31:53 PM
The thing that people are missing is that ASICs have a high initial cost, but once that is paid off they are absolutely dirt cheap to make and therefore sell. It is a technology that WILL be accessible to the masses.

EDIT: And if you want to nit-pick, the existing BFL offering is already an ASIC... albeit a reprogrammable one. Smiley
2328  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dwolla email - "We need to verify your identity!" on: May 29, 2012, 08:06:13 PM
So the common denominator for those receiving this e-mail are that they've dealing with anything but trivial amounts (e.g., $100-ish range and under) and have transacted with either bitcoin exchanges or with other bitcoiners.

Doing both will almost guarantee that you get this letter, though it may not happen until after your transaction has already occurred.  You will not be able to withdraw the next time though without verifying first.
I have auto withdrawal enabled, so any deposit into my Dwolla account will be pushed directly to my bank. I logged in and checked, and there is no indication that the withdrawal is suspended, or that it will be late, so I am going to delay sending anything until after the estimated time of arrival shown in the withdrawal details. Will let everyone know how it goes.
2329  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BITCOIN MAGAZINE ARRIVED! on: May 29, 2012, 07:19:31 PM
Likely would be offset, not laser. Maybe the curing lamps aren't up to snuff.
2330  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BITCOIN MAGAZINE ARRIVED! on: May 29, 2012, 07:04:07 PM
What I do with the rest is a secret that won't be revealed for some time.
Don't beat off to it for too long, you might go blind and won't be able to read the second edition.
2331  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in space. on: May 29, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
Well KickSat won't work for this. You can run your own code, but only very limited C code. And, they will be fired into low altitude orbit and will burn up after a few weeks.
2332  Economy / Goods / Re: [SMOKERS] Introducing Cigs.eu - Buy Cheap Cigarettes with Bitcoins on: May 29, 2012, 06:54:40 PM
^^^ This person is a scammer!!!  Beware!

Proof is usually a good idea, in another thread please.
2333  Other / Off-topic / Re: Funny Pics etc, your funny pics from the www on: May 29, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Orly
2334  Economy / Services / Re: GPUMAX | The Bitcoin Mining Marketplace on: May 29, 2012, 06:40:49 PM
now arent you a WINNER, a real jewel to the community, so you 12 years old arent you.  bet your girlfriend really enjoys you, oh wait, you lack the social skills to sufficiently interact with society.  that why you troll the forums, for attention.  good luck with that
Speak for yourself, troll. You've never seen his rigs. GPUMAX enables those with hashpower to rape those that need hashpower. Grin
2335  Other / Off-topic / Re: 896 mh/s firmware release - Butterfly Labs on: May 29, 2012, 06:37:46 PM
I don't think proper cooling has everything to do with the firmware working. I have plenty of cooling (never goes over 46) and my singles don't like any firmware over 832. They lock or have a sub 800 rate with anything higher than 832.

Anyone else have a similar experience?
I'd tend to agree. I've seen cgminer report over 70 degrees with no throttling, but it still won't run the fastest firmware. I wonder what could make the discrepancy so large.
2336  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: May 29, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
They have a GPU array of 15,000. [...] This grid alone can give them over 15TH in processing power...
That would be 1Gh per GPU, which I would tend to question because most systems of that nature use slow nVidia GPUs. But they could easily band together with other banks and things to get the same result.
2337  Other / Off-topic / Re: Funny Pics etc, your funny pics from the www on: May 29, 2012, 06:31:15 PM
Shooped, I can tell by the pixels.
2338  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TRADEHILL WHY DON'T U PAY BACK MY MONEY?? on: May 29, 2012, 06:30:30 PM
One wonders how many of these claims are fraudulent.
2339  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: May 29, 2012, 06:27:23 PM
But AMD is not making video cards for mining. They can be used for that but it's not they only purpose. ASIC designed for mining have only one purpose, and that makes them very dangerous for bitcoin that depends on mining.
So? If you have the infrastructure to support it, you too could invest in an AMD-based solution. The "NRE" in that case would be the implementation of a suitable location, cooling, and base platforms. Kind of like what DMC is doing.

Instead of spending million(s?) on ASIC fabs, you could instead fill an entire warehouse with video cards and cooling equipment, and still be ahead of many miners - even those with FPGAs.
2340  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: May 29, 2012, 06:17:39 PM
But there will be only few companies, there will be no room for more. And that means centralizing bitcoin, you will be on mercy of those few.
AMD is the only video card manufacturer that matters, and nvidia is a far away second.

BFL is working on this ASIC as well as several competitors: OpenBitASIC, which will publish its designs under GPL once they are up and running; LargeCoin, who are making a structured ASIC platform; Vladimir, who is creating a set of ASICs of his own design that won't be sold to the public; and possibly others that have not announced themselves.
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