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1481  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / How does Lightning network breach remedy work? on: October 08, 2018, 02:16:50 AM
I'm just curious. Can a miner/pool operator open up lightning network channels and then proceed to close channels with older states favorable to them in a block, at a later time? This would be manually included rather than broadcast through the mempool. Or does the breach remedy sufficiently address this situation?

Edit: After doing more research, I think the breach remedy is sufficient because the victims would have the private keys of the old states, and could spend the attackers UTXO, am I correct? It's a bit confusing to me still. Huh
1482  Other / Meta / Re: Request mods to ban user game-protect and jolly good on: October 08, 2018, 12:40:21 AM
AFAIK, the Bitcointalk staff does not make determinations on what is "FUD" and what are actual valid complaints. It is against the rules to engage in violent threats. However, they have to be caught in the act. It may be best if you somehow archive the next offending post.
1483  Other / Meta / Re: Deleted Post on: October 08, 2018, 12:03:29 AM
I've had several posts that I thought were clever memes and links deleted by the mods. Oh well. It's not like any of them really needed to remain immortalized.   Cheesy
1484  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
I know that it's McLaren 570S
Good

The BFX blog post does nothing to address concerns they are running a fractional reserve. Along with every other exchange out there.  

Well, if they are going to run a stablecoin that claims to be backed by fiat rather than a p2p community(like most cyptocurrencies), they need to be more transparent. Oh well, I am an American; so, I really can't use them ATM. (However, I do use other exchanges that use Tether, so could still be affected if something is wrong.)  My holdings with them are dust that I left when I made my exit after their 2016 hack.
1485  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 07, 2018, 11:26:27 PM

I'm not thrilled with the fact that they are holding over 150K BTC in one multisign address, even though it is a cold wallet. Hopefully it is more than a 2 of 3 multisign; otherwise, all one needs to do is compromise 2 of 3 keys to steal that amount of BTC. Bitfinex already had multisign addresses compromised in the past. Also, it would have been nice if they gave us some kind of supporting document listing their fiat holdings.

Edit: Just looked. It's a 3 of 6 multisign. I guess that is a little better.  Huh I certainly hope they have the 6 keys stored in separate locations and have a way to airgap the signing process.
1486  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Signing a sum of bitcoin on: October 06, 2018, 03:35:26 PM
Won't Schnorr signatures pave the way to make this possible? (When and if it gets integrated.)
1487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2018, 03:07:15 AM
Eat everybody!  Kiss
1488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 02, 2018, 12:12:21 AM
 Cheesy Do people know what ambivalent means? It's a state of uncertainty. Roll Eyes

1489  Other / Meta / Re: Is it possible to hack this forum and credit 100 Merits to own account? on: September 30, 2018, 11:51:27 PM
I am asking this question because I just came across a "Full Member" account with exactly 100 Merits and JUST 140 posts and activity.

Now, I've been posting with karma in mind ever since I joined; yet, 16 is all I could muster across 200+ posts, some of them merit-worthy yet uncredited. Naturally, I felt mighty envious of this guy, and decided to see what secret sauce his posts have that mine, more in number, lacked.

Imagine my surprise when I meticulously read through his posts; and found that most of them were trollish, and a few substantial ones were ordinary in content. And, here's the key, NONE of his posts show any award of merit!

This is the account in question:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1006130



When the merit system started in January of this year, every account that was already established was given the minimum merit of their rank. Likely, this person was a full member when the merit system started. I was a Legendary at the time and started with 1000 merit.
1490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 30, 2018, 04:16:20 AM
OK again, so no public proof = no proof.

Absolutely. You have no public proof that CSW is not satoshi.

For the record: I am ambivalent on the matter. He may be; he may not. But you are falling upon the argument of the most fallacious nature. Lack of proof is not proof of the converse.

And you have no proof that I'm not Satoshi either. Neither have you proof that my grandma is not Satoshi. This is a stupid fucking argument but if you want to continue to believe that a bull-headed narcissist, an egotistical, mean-spirited sociopath is Satoshi, despite an utter lack of evidence, that's your right as a human citizen. Have at it.

There's a raging Flat Earth argument in Off Topic that could probably use your help in its defense.

LOL Since when is someone being ambivalent suggest that someone "believes" anything? It's like calling someone who is agnostic a religious zealot.  Cheesy
1491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 28, 2018, 10:59:57 PM
So then why do so many people in the crypto community trash CSW and call him a scammer when there is legally verified evidence that he was a part of satoshi?

CSW legal team filed a motion to dismiss. One of the things they are claiming is that CSW does not have the private keys for Kleiman's coins.
https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-moves-dismiss-shakedown-bitcoin-lawsuit/



So then it's "case closed". How can people in the crypto community who call him "faketoshi" still have credibility when the information that proves he was in fact one half of satoshi is publicly available to everyone?

Because at least half of the cryptocurrency community is misinformed and valid sources of news have yet to be established, this is why independent research is very important.

Is that why CSW himself retweeted this tweet of mine? https://twitter.com/bones261/status/1035621686140391426 Because I am so misinformed? Simple fact of the matter is CSW does not wish to confirm or deny that he is indeed Satoshi at this time. Respect his wishes and leave it alone.
1492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 28, 2018, 09:51:36 PM
So then why do so many people in the crypto community trash CSW and call him a scammer when there is legally verified evidence that he was a part of satoshi?

CSW legal team filed a motion to dismiss. One of the things they are claiming is that CSW does not have the private keys for Kleiman's coins.
https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-moves-dismiss-shakedown-bitcoin-lawsuit/



So then it's "case closed". How can people in the crypto community who call him "faketoshi" still have credibility when the information that proves he was in fact one half of satoshi is publicly available to everyone?

The validity of the court documents have not be confirmed by any court ruling or settlement between the parties involved. CSW has made it pretty clear that he will not be providing any conclusive evidence that he is indeed Satoshi. All he would need to do is sign a message using the private key for any of the addresses the coinbase reward went to in the first 100 blocks. It's not that difficult unless he lost the private keys.
However, loosing the private keys would appear to contradict Satoshi's advise.
Sigh... why delete a wallet instead of moving it aside and keeping the old copy just in case?  You should never delete a wallet.
One of the possibilities would be that Kleiman had access to all of the private keys and encrypted them, leaving everyone in the dark on what the password was.
1493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 28, 2018, 09:07:57 PM
So then why do so many people in the crypto community trash CSW and call him a scammer when there is legally verified evidence that he was a part of satoshi?

CSW legal team filed a motion to dismiss. One of the things they are claiming is that CSW does not have the private keys for Kleiman's coins.
https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-moves-dismiss-shakedown-bitcoin-lawsuit/

1494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 28, 2018, 07:45:02 PM

Just a few questions I have. BCH was created because of the block size issue correct? How was bitcoin every supposed to achieve global adoption at a 1MB block size limit? Secondly, in the Kleiman Vs. Wright court documents, Craig Wright and David Kleiman are pointed out to be satoshi nakamoto. If BCH is faster and cheaper, why is it not better than Bitcoin then? Seems that the only argument people have for me against that is that BTC is the original and BCH is a copy.

Here is an excerpt from the bitcoin white paper:

Quote
 Proof-of-work  is essentially one-CPU-one-vote. The majority decision is represented by the longest chain, which has the greatest proof-of-work effort invested
in it.

If BCH had not implemented replay protection, it would have been orphaned out of existence long ago. BTC still has the most hash rate invested in it. When and if things start turning around, BCH can claim that they are indeed bitcoin.

Now one can argue that BTC has lost it's way and has strayed far from what is outlined from the original satoshi vision. However, it is very clear from the whitepaper that the chain with the greatest proof of work is always the most legit. Prefer BCH over BTC? Then get an ASIC and mine BCH. You may also attempt to do something that will make BCH more attractive to miners. Using BCH contributes because your fees help attract miners. Also, buying BCH contributes because it pushes the market price a little higher making it more attractive to miners. In the end, the miners have the votes. Get used to it. That is Nakamoto consensus.
1495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple proof that Bitcoin has zero value on: September 28, 2018, 03:33:05 AM

If you buy or earn BTC and sell it for fiat you are suppose to pay tax on the profit even though the majority of people do not. If you earn BTC and pay for stuff in BTC how can this ever be taxed when it is not converted to fiat? BTC is only taxable when turned back into fiat. On top of that if you use a privacy coin like xmr, dash, ect. like you mentioned these are completely invisible on both ends of the transaction and there is almost nothing that can be done. Even if people used a non privacy based coin and everyone did it there is really nothing anyone can do to stop it. The manpower simply does not exist to handle a situation like this. It is like trying to stop the internet itself. A police officer can not stand on every corner in the world.

From any country in the world you can open a bitcoin wallet located on a computer in any other country in the world using a tor browser and send that bitcoin to a wallet on a computer in any other country in the world. It can not be stopped or regulated. It is the people that have the power not the governments. This is also exactly why bitcoin was created in the first place, to be an alternative way of doing things and give the financial power back to the people not banks, big business and governments.

Actually, if someone earns BTC and are a US citizen, that person is supposed to pay income tax on it. Also, if someone purchases goods or services with a cryptocurrency, that person is responsible for any capital gains tax that may be due. Depending on what the BTC was worth when someone acquired it, that person could also claim a capital loss as well. Also, it is true that privacy coins are rather obfuscated when checking the blockchain. However, if someone is purchasing goods over the internet, the records on where they will be shipping the goods will not be anonymous.
The chances are pretty good that a person can get away without paying taxes. Also, the guidance is scant and the recording requirements are ridiculous. Chances are pretty good that if a person at least made the effort to pay their taxes on their cyrptocurrency transactions, the government will probably be forgiving if it wasn't perfect. However, if someone makes no effort at all to pay the taxes, they stand the risk of being one of the unlucky few that the government will make an example out of. If someone wants to take the small chance of living in back taxes hell, that is up to them. The government could literally take the shirt off someone's back if they wanted. Furthermore, they could take it a step further and take away that person's freedom after convicting them of tax evasion.
1496  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 27, 2018, 10:18:45 PM


Too soon for these?
1497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple proof that Bitcoin has zero value on: September 27, 2018, 08:45:53 PM


This is true, and I think BTC probably can only achieve a high dollar value if everyone starts using it. The more people that find use for it the higher the dollar value will be.

I think some things might change moving forward in the future for this to happen. If people realize that they do not have to pay income taxes if they get paid in BTC this might be a strong incentive for more people to want to get paid in BTC. The easier it becomes to pay for things with BTC the more people might use it. The most convent way I have seen people actually use BTC to pay for things is by loading BTC onto a prepaid credit card and use it just like any other card to fill their gas tanks or buy groceries ect.. but I think online shopping is where it will really thrive in the future. I think this will be a gradual change in the future as more people use it the volatility will gradually change also.



I live in the US and you are expected to pay taxes on your Bitcoin earnings. True, you may fly under the radar for your whole life. Much like people who work by getting paid under the table get away with it. However, if you get caught, prepare to have the government extract their pound of flesh from you. You can increase your chances by using an anonymous coin like XMR or ZEC. However, if you are buying goods and services or exchanging them for fiat, there is a good chance there will be a record of the transaction that isn't anonymous. I suppose you can uproot yourself and find a jurisdiction that won't tax you. However, how many people are really interested in moving to these jurisdictions? There is also going and living on a seastead.  Cheesy
1498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple proof that Bitcoin has zero value on: September 27, 2018, 08:04:31 PM
Bitcoin always has a value the 0. The current value is the result of the development that Bitcoin has experienced over time. Bitcoin continues to grow and is accepted by many traders and investors as the real value of Bitcoin, and everyone agrees with that value.


Apparently there is not much "agreement" since the BTC market is highly volatile. However, the fixed supply is "supposed" to mitigate this. Only time will tell if this actually continues to work. I'm still a skeptic. That's why I currently own less than 1 BTC and a few shitcoins.

I think that BTC is currently like a small raft floating in the ocean, as the ship grows larger the waves will have less effect on it. I can imagine if BTC ever grew to 200k or 300k and jumped up and down by 5k every day it would be a lot less volatile. But you are correct only time will tell.

No, the only way BTC will get less volatile is if it actually starts having a real economy develop using it. Right now, only a few get paid in BTC for their work and can purchase all of their wants and needs with BTC. Even many people who manage to cover most of their expenses with BTC alone, actually rely on some method which converts the BTC to fiat. I am not convinced that BTC can really sustain an actual economy. Since it is limited in supply, this encourages hoarding. If too many people HODL, that is not much money flowing and makes for a poor economy. BCH and Lightning network claim to solves this by making the scaling better. However, if you just build bigger pipes, but you only have a trickle worth of water; you are still going to get only a trickle.
1499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple proof that Bitcoin has zero value on: September 27, 2018, 07:17:03 PM
Bitcoin always has a value the 0. The current value is the result of the development that Bitcoin has experienced over time. Bitcoin continues to grow and is accepted by many traders and investors as the real value of Bitcoin, and everyone agrees with that value.


Apparently there is not much "agreement" since the BTC market is highly volatile. However, the fixed supply is "supposed" to mitigate this. Only time will tell if this actually continues to work. I'm still a skeptic. That's why I currently own less than 1 BTC and a few shitcoins.
1500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A simple proof that Bitcoin has zero value on: September 27, 2018, 06:26:54 PM
A hacker can theoretically deplete everyone's wallet, or exploit all the coins available, or do other global destructive things in a short order. Therefore, Bitcoin will be worth zero if we are not careful.

Yes, if Bitcoin is found to have a serious flaw and cannot reasonably be useful as a medium of exchange and/or a store of value, then it is worth absolutely nothing since it has no other purpose. (Unless it can be fixed before serious damage occurs. Or reversed altogether.) However, I do not think the people of Venezuela take solace by the fact that at least their paper money can be used as a cheap fuel for a fire, or make paper purses, when things get bad.  Cheesy







Yes, and I do not think that people with crashed Ferrari take solace by the fact that at least their luxury sport car can be used as a cheap scrap metal when things get bad.  Cheesy




So, the point of your logic is exactly what? That fiat monetary "vehicle" is BS because some corrupt governments don't know how to "drive it"?

Perhaps a better analogy is to compare fiat to a Pinto rather than a Lambo. A Pinto could have been wrecked by a bad operator, but it also had a flaw, that could be wrecked no matter how good the driver was.



I'm sorry, but the fiat "proof of debt" system doesn't appear to be sustainable. Once people or governments start defaulting on the debt, it becomes a mess. Even with the collateral, the banks just cannot recoup the losses. There are remedies, but rest assured there will be much pain before the remedies take effect.
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