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1621  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin slumps as China bans all cryptocurrency transactions on: October 03, 2021, 11:55:38 AM
To say that it had slumped is a bit of an exaggeration since it barely dumped Bitcoin's value, and to top it all off, for only a short matter of time. Goes to show that people have become smarter and learned to pick which news to focus on and which to shrug off. That being said this is a taste of the things to come and would signify that bitcoin will not be fazed by any negative news coming from China moving forward.
Slumps is a big word, bitcoin is doing just fine so I really don't see how the Chinese ban made a difference, people has learned overtime that if China is involved, it's better if you don't panic at all because things will eventually smooth out.
Exactly. Bitcoin bounced back a few days prior to the said news and the dump following it so it means that neither was the news that impactful nor was it a slump. If it were a slump we would've seen a much disastrous drop in price. Regardless if it were a dump or a slump, good investors will see opportunity in red situations like these.
1622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin have any real value? on: October 03, 2021, 11:17:56 AM
Bitcoin has value because we assume it has value, the same happened with all other commodities and assets that are out there, even money. Everything really. Value is an abstract concept that we base on things that are abstract themselves. So does bitcoin have value? Yes. Why does it have value? Because we said so.
the value of bitcoin is solely defined by the demand on it by the people using it. it also has the same concept for fiat currency. if people don't want to use a certain fiat currency then its value will surely amount to nothing. this is the same as with bitcoin so if the people have no demands on it then the value of bitcoin will surely drop.
To put it simply, bitcoin's value depends on how people sees it. That's basically it. Bitcoin is backed by the dollar, dollar is backed by gold, gold is backed by the people who thought gold was so valuable, spanning from ancient antiquity until now. Value is an abstract quality, but it doesn't mean it's pointless. It's the things that we treasure the most, bitcoin in this case, that defines us.
1623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Isn't speculation and volatility a problem for Bitcoin? on: October 03, 2021, 10:44:36 AM
A good reason why bitcoin is so big with cryptocurrency investors is because of the fact that it has good volatility rate that could pump the price up the same way it could dump it down as well. Really volatility is a double-edged sword for investors because most of them use these sudden price surges and drops as a means to earn money with cryptocurrency. The same goes with speculations.
Isn't speculation and volatility a problem for Bitcoin?

If BTC is not speculative and volatile then we don't see that much activity in crypto. Its this volatility that is attracting more and more  investors towards this system. If you play your cards sensibility then there are bright chances that you will get good profit from here. If you dont like this volatility then go and invest in banks.
"The higher the risk, the greater the reward"

Exactly. Bitcoin being this dynamic is what caused all this craze anyway. So it's not entirely bad for cryptocurrencies to be this way at least while they are still a store-of-value asset. The narrative changes however once they become accepted as bona fide currencies that could be used for everyday menial transactions because the slightest fluctuations could cause problems if volatility is not solved.
1624  Other / Off-topic / Re: Solar Storm May Cause Internet Outage on: October 03, 2021, 10:27:09 AM
To say that a solar storm would ONLY cause internet outage is a big mistake. I'd tell you that depending on the intensity of the winds that will hit the Earth, Solar storm could either disrupt electronics, and communications, or could even cost us our lives and food resources in the process. A truly terrifying event that further implies the universe hates technology, and has machinations within its confines that would destroy us in a single flash.
A possible solar storm would end the business life of nearly everybody. Because the internet is used in nearly all of the work fields. There is no way that these jobs can continue to be done in such condition. You say that only about people who are fully dependent on the internet. But actually, nearly everybody are depending on it.  Cheesy  But most probably, we won't see any solar storm in the near future. Sometimes, they make this kind of clickbait videos.
Except we may really get hit by a solar storm since we're starting solar cycle 25, as evident from the sunspots that scientists have been observing since the past few years. Still a solar storm doesn't automatically mean we will get hit directly but if we do get hit, let's just say we're properly fucked.
1625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Simple question on: October 03, 2021, 09:25:58 AM
The demand is there, and is increasing as we speak but even that isn't a surefire way for us to say that Bitcoin is gonna end high this year. a couple more parameters are needed to be met in order to confirm such predictions. Although personally, I think this year's gonna end well for bitcoin. Still, this could change in the following months.
Q4 of every year is one of the crucial moments in the crypto industry based on its history. you can make a profit depends on how you look at the price of bitcoins in the future. Most likely the price will increase and this is the right time to increase your investment before that happened. sometimes it becomes moderated and stuck at its usual price that's when you have the chance to invest before the market will rise. But still, you need to have an escape plan because when it reached its peak, it will suddenly decline again.
There's a strong indicator that Bitcoin will end the year strong, if not excellent. Ever increasing demand, El Salvador, among others that are honestly too many to mention in one post. One should always look out for outliers though before assuming everything outright. Although truth be told, as I said earlier there's a huge possibility that bitcoin will pump or end at a fairly reasonable price.
1626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How are you taking the China Bitcoin Ban? on: October 03, 2021, 07:46:08 AM
I shrug it off. China has been negative towards bitcoin since time immemorial, and to let such a good piece of technology die just because some Communist Country tells its people it is bad to have freedom through the currency isn't something that would faze me. As a matter of fact, a lot of us here are already fed up with China's bullcrap that they didn't bother getting into the news anymore. And the evidence is bitcoin's sudden pump even during this banning.
I dont care about China, so the things that happened related to them dont even bothered me, I just dont understand why there are still a lot of people who do panic selling when they have heard some news relates to this. The market always immediately reacts when China do these things and besides this is not the first time it happened hoping that next time people will become smarter than they dont also get bothered by this kind of FUD.
A lot of us are like you already my friend. It has been a long time since we've heard anything good come from China, it's time we detoxify and not let these FUD get into our heads. I may sound like some evangelist thinking of bitcoin as a savior of the masses but the thing is, China has antagonized cryptocurrencies for so long that it's just annoying at this point, so there's no reason as to why you should even consider the implications of China ever banning cryptocurrency within their border.
1627  Economy / Economics / Re: I tried money making apps! on: October 03, 2021, 07:05:05 AM
The thing about money-making apps is they make more money out of you than you do out of them. These pesky apps that have riddled the play store promising awesome payoffs through Paypal or whatever the hell they are gonna send your money into is nothing but sham. Yes they will pay, yes they will give you the general feel of the app but as soon as tutorial is over, they'd start making a fool out of you by making sure you stay on their app for as long as possible so you can consume all the ads they will throw at you while you are staring at your phone hoping that you'd get that money which you probably won't anyway.
I have a bad experience about a lot of money-making applications. They are exploited applications that make you watch a lot of ads, download many applications, answer a lot of surveys, and in the end you get some dollars after a great effort from you that may last for many months, I see that these applications are just a waste of time, I have tried the SweatCoin app it already pays you to walk but you need to walk for years to get $100 Is it worth it?!
That's their scheme, they make you think you're making money too but the real winners there are the developers because they're the ones that gather those brands and put them as so called way to make money but it's really not. It's a waste of time no matter how big they're promising you.
I think a lot of us would agree that money-making apps are just plain out Satan's way of getting a good laugh from gullible people. It's even harder to imagine that some people, sometimes even your family or friends, get baited into downloading these apps and letting it inject all kinds of ads and sometimes even malware into your system.
1628  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation and protecting you wealth on: October 03, 2021, 06:31:16 AM
For regular people like 80-90%  of the people in this forum, accessibility is the most important thing because how would you be able to enjoy the benefits of something if you can't get your hands into it. So people here would probably use cryptocurrencies as a way to combat inflation and keep the value of their wealth safe and secured. For some others who could afford the finest things in life, real estate and art could work well for them. Personally, Bitcoin is my go-to in ensuring that I don't lose over inflation.
Exactly,different status ,considered one of inflation,we have different needs in our daily life,more demands,of people but costs is slowly because of status in life a lot of people" unemployment".So,best way to gain and maintain  wealth ,EDUCATION,must and important ,is every one ,EDUCATED.So ,cost of living can raise individuals and success there living status.
It's almost obvious at this point that people will choose whatever is more accessible and available to them, especially if they do not have the privilege to acquire or be given choices to begin with. Art may have better longevity and greater profit margin but then again we have to remember that not everyone of us have the money to get even the cheapest masters' painting on the market or available for auction.
1629  Economy / Economics / Re: Neopets attempts to cash in on NFTs, proceeds to burn up goodwill on: October 03, 2021, 06:01:18 AM
Neopets have been a part of my childhood. I could still remember playing some of their minigames and it sucks that they slowly drifted away from the spotlight when at a certain point during my schooling the entirety of my grade level had his own Neopets account. Hearing about this awful news makes me retch even more because they literally threw all their cards away at being relevant again. That being said can't really see why they won't try to cash in on the NFT hype, just not this way.
It's amazing how much outrage and cohesion amongst people that can be created by some barely-known game trying to pull off some sort of NFT scam.  Yet when our governments are screwing us all in the ass with economic policies that are surely going to wreck the countries in which we live, most people shrug and continue staring at their smartphones.

To all the millenials and young folks from the newer generation: if you don't start paying attention to what's really important, you're in for a fucking catastrophe, which is probably coming sooner rather than later.  I wouldn't give a second thought to Neopets, NFTs, or any of those sideshow distractions.  Support real cryptocurrency (like bitcoin) and either get involved in politics directly or make your voice heard to the politicians now in power.  If you don't, you'll regret it, believe me.

As far as this Neopets thing goes, what do you expect?  OP summed up what the conversation probably was like at their headquarters, and the bottom line is that they thought they could exploit people's mania for NFTs, which I think are absolutely ridiculous.  If you paid 1 satoshi for an NFT, you've paid too much.
Thanks for the inspiring message. Although most youth nowadays focus on what's topical and what's in the trend which is why some obscure yet important stuff gets sidelined in favor of useless information. Add to this the fact that the youth's opinion is most of the time undervalued as well, basically because of the bias that they have "lesser experience" than their older counterparts, these play a great role in impeding progress.
1630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be more effective in the future on: October 03, 2021, 05:34:32 AM
It's not like they do not know what bitcoin is capable of that's why they are banning them. As a matter of fact the opposite is the reason why these governments that are backed by their corresponding banking institutions do so. They know bitcoin could revolutionize money and give the power back to the people, which isn't a good idea as per the .1% elite. So they do whatever they can in their power to ban bitcoin and crypto altogether.
Some governments have boosted their economy or at least solve employment challenges for many teenagers by accepting cryptocurrencies in their countries which is a good thing. Sadly, there are some countries with a low to medium economic status which would have use crypto in several investments to boost their economy but instead, they keep rejecting even the giant Bitcoin.

But nowadays a lot of popular people are diving into the crypto world, perhaps this will increase attention to some countries and their governments will accept crypto.
. A small number of countries mind you. A couple of countries are still against the use of cryptocurrencies over fiat. These nations will soon come to realize that the world won't adjust for their preferences. People will want to have innovation in the future and inevitably, they would want the same for their currencies.
1631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto misinformation is turning into an issue for people new to the game. on: October 03, 2021, 04:38:09 AM
It has been so common in the cryptocurrency industry to be one-upped by someone over things like this. Some people even see it as a rite of passage that one must take in order to become a learned cryptocurrency investor. Obviously this shouldn't be the case no matter the circumstances but without a good plan of action, we can only hope to prevent it.
Unfortunately, the scammers keep hunting the new blood on social media and forums. There is nothing we can do, it is the responsibility of the person to check the contract address and try to verify everything before processing the transactions. Otherwise, such bad things will keep happening no matter what we do.
This is true. Scammers love to prey upon the gullibility and the lack of information of newbies which is why they love them the most. Honestly we can't really prevent scammers from scamming other people but what we can do is invest in the knowledge so when the time comes that you encounter a hacker or a scammer trynna trick you out of your hard-earned investments, you are well-prepared
1632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Gas Fee is too High? on: October 03, 2021, 03:49:07 AM
Would assume you are new to cryptocurrencies and buying ETH at such a high gas fee surprised you the most. A few months back it was much higher than that and it is just something that comes along whenever there's a bull run. The amount of transactions per day volumizes and this increase puts a toll on the machines that compute for these transactions to be processed, thus causing for shortage and whenever there's a high demand and a low supply, a price hike happens.
Sometimes we feel not good after paying a High Fee on ETH  Smiley But I want's to know why this?

I feel my emotions with this


That doesn't matter if gas fee was too high at least you earned good enough to fund your holdings in a profitable ways.  Everytime price of ethereum and bitcoin goes higher with fees it will always continue to rise, depending on the percentage of transaction fee bracket. Unlike the old days, cheaper tx fees was still worry free but if small priced coins that we have will soon come up on that stage I guess we will also be concerned if fees itself will also become expensive.
ETH 2.0 promises to solve this issue anyway, so I'm thinking we should just wait for this issue out until the fix arrives, what you said about profits and paying high gas fees may be true to you but not for others, so I wouldn't fully agree on that. That being said, an issue like this isn't something that you would be forced to deal with everyday anyway, so it's not like you have no choice or agency for when you would time your transactions.
1633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't trade using instinct on: October 03, 2021, 03:27:45 AM
One way or another you gained something from investing in crypto. Even the losses you incurred gave you valuable lessons that you can then use for future reference. Although investing using gut instinct typically ends unwell. As for cryptocurrencies that show future growth, I would suggest you invest in the biggest coins in the market if you haven't already. And then Solana. It's progressing so quickly and so huge it just can't be left unnoticed.
just relying on instinct when trading, is like playing gambling...
It is really a gamble, trading isn't the usual gambling that we do like dice or roulettes. Unless a trader is considered himself to have that strategy even if he knows that there's a way to have a better trading experience and that's through learning analysis and being resourceful.
Resourceful in a manner that you're coping up with every news update coming from the market to react accordingly.
IMO trading is more suspenseful and stressful than traditional gambling means like poker and roulette. The fact that you have more agency over the odds of winning and losing in trading compared to gambling is what makes it more enticing yet stressful at times. Plus the fact that the same strat could work for the majority of traders makes it fun as well, but I digress. Investing should definitely be taken seriously and not be relied on your gut instinct.
1634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Zimbabwe minister urges citizens to embrace Bitcoin on: October 03, 2021, 02:25:19 AM
Zimbabwe faced serious monetary issues in the past, inflating their native currency to even force them to print denominations for trillions of Zimbabwean currency. The show of support from Zimbabwe's minister could be a sign that they are embracing the much more secure and sustainable bitcoin and cryptocurrency usage compared to their inferior fiat currency. This could change in the future, but it is good to see that a notable figure of a sizable country like Zimbabwe is admitting support of Bitcoin.

Looks like Zimbabwe is influenced by El Salvador declaring Bitcoin as a legal tender, and I think they are potentially going to follow suit as well like Paraguay. However, I am not sure if they are also going to make Bitcoin as a legal tender, or they are just simply embracing Bitcoin that’s all.

If it’s one way that would improve the country’s economy, then they should be going for it. I’m happy for them for being pro-Bitcoin.
Could be, could be a mix of all other factors that affected Zimbabwe's economy in the past few years. It is quite exhilarating to know about this and I hope that Zimbabwe and Bitcoin stay close for the years to come. Although we all know that this may change in the future, hopefully for the better. Otherwise this will be one of the biggest switcheroos in the cryptocurrency space that people will talk about for months on end.
1635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: China says all crypto transaction are illegal on: October 02, 2021, 04:53:55 PM
The first few bad news coming from China were impactful because let's be real here, population and economy-wise they have a pretty good standing, and becoming friends with a country as big as China will definitely help in the onboarding of people on what cryptocurrency really is and altogether help in cryptocurrency adoption. But as time went by, people got the hang of the bullcrap that China is throwing over bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, just like a couple of days ago when they released a statement declaring that they ban all forms of cryptocurrency and related activities, yet bitcoin and a huge portion of the top coins in the market still pumped anyway. Goes to show that people are becoming smarter by the day.
I think it's natural for Bitcoin to go down some time ago because in FUD it continues, in China FUD, in Elon FUD, in FUD all kinds of things. the solution is to buy crypto with the strongest and safest fundamentals where bad news and FUD are very rare. In fact, both traders and investors are no longer afraid of the sound of fireworks and in my view, they are bored when they hear FUD news, so the solution, when faced with such conditions, is to move to fundamentalist crypto, namely Ethereum!

Regarding the Chinese government has the power to shake the market just with a mare statement I don't think the percentage is too big and it takes a long time to prove that today the market has gone back to normal and green.
Or, do your own research, base your investment choices on facts and not just on mere FUD, I believe this works better in combatting FUD because be it bitcoin or the biggest altcoin on the market, there will be some form of FUD that critics will throw just to upset the otherwise pumping price. If we do our own homework ourselves at the very least we can ensure that the information we get is firsthand and not just some random hearsay
1636  Other / Off-topic / Re: Diego Costa being investigated by Police over alleged betting scandal on: October 02, 2021, 04:22:05 PM
AFAIK he already had a history of committing fraudulent activities like embezzlement and tax fraud, costing him jail time in the past. If that's so, then he either sucks at hiding the bones in his closet, or he has a very good lawyer, but I digress. If he already has issues like these in the past there's no point in keeping him active in the sport he plays in, it's just gonna throw dirt to the game and would cause further detriments not only to him but to other players associated with him as well, or have they done that already?
I don't really know what Diego Costa has done or what they say that he has done but i never understood why it is such a big Deal if football players are betting on their own games. In the end he is only one out of 22 players and i don't think he has enough influence to manipulate a game. If he bets that his own Team is losing then of course it is a little fight, but if he bets on his Team to win then it is just a little extra Motivation on top for him.
Regardless if he is a player or not that bets in his own games, the previous accusations against him are a bit too big to leave unnoticed, embezzlement and tax fraud are some grave crimes that even a regular guy that does not have any following would be subject to the law. As for the newer accusations against him, for me, it still counts as an offense since it's pretty much manipulating your chances of getting a pay. It doesn't make sense the way I put it but personally, it's unfair to get a boost in some way or another while a game is yet to, or is already transpiring.
1637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Poker Rooms on: October 02, 2021, 02:26:37 PM
Since you're probably new to crypto and crypto gambling altogether. I'd suggest you the same site that everyone does which is SwC Poker. The site is reputable enough to be trusted with your money and you can rest assured that no monkey business is going on with them. As a newbie, it is always important to secure yourself from the scammers and people who will try to trick you out of your money and steal from you. Try new things as you research and learn. That's the best way to stay safe and profit well in this industry.
Hi everyone, I just created a new account here to learn more about bitcoin. I also like to play poker and I'm wondering if there are any good and trustworthy online bitcoin poker room out there? Thank you in advance!  Smiley

All poker sites mentioned here are trustworthy. Check on what site attracts you most. To help you decide, once you were able now to choose one, try to find their respective ANN thread for you to know others' feedback about the site. Good thing, you asked first here before jumping to other sites. It's a good habit.

Welcome to the forum and good luck with your poker gambling journey.
Nitrogen had past issues with Collusion and I saw some people sharing and suggesting that site to OP. Not to ruin the business of everyone but the fact remains that we want to secure OP's safety while traversing the cryptocurrency world, especially in gambling. Might as well suggest sites that have been confirmed to have no bad records so we can ensure OP's funds aren't going to some evil dude's pockets.
1638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Metaverse x Gambling on: October 02, 2021, 01:25:20 PM
Just as you said, where there is money, that's where people go. Unfortunately, most people will disregard the "proper research" part of choosing an NFT game as long as it was gone hype and many people are making noise about that project. Many got wrecked because of putting a trust right away on an NFT game that became hyped.

It's the worst thing because many lose their money but on the other hand, the good side is, the next time they will put money again, they are now more educated, strict and will do their best DYOR skills as much as possible.
Most newbies fall prey to games and NFT projects that show promise of profit but fall short in longevity. Things come and go and the same goes for projects in the cryptocurrency space, but there are a few notable ones that with a little bit of research and time, you may stumble upon and invest. Instead of going for the one-hit-wonders of the market that will only give you profits for a couple of months and would then drop out of nowhere, slow but sure projects are a better alternative. The same could be said for projects in the NFT space.
Developers are striking while it's hot, metaverse gaming is now a big trend in the market, there are new NFT projects being launched and if you check the altcoin section, there's a lot of topics about metaverse gaming, metaverse play to earn poker is new but a promising niche, Decentral plan is very cool and they are targetting poker players, this is something to look forward in the gambling industry.
As we progress to a much more advanced future, people will take notice of the Metaverse and would inevitably invest in projects that promise anything that is Metaverse-related. That being said games aren't just the things you can toy with when discussing Metaverse. There are boundless applications for Metaverse that could then be transposed into cryptocurrencies and NFT projects which would definitely amp its standing over the world.
1639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Seriously! three times...the individual vs. combined probability. on: October 02, 2021, 12:54:05 PM
Odds are low, but not impossible. Would like to suppose you're being subjected to Gambler's Fallacy due to the fact that it sounded as if you assumed there is no chance that such a pattern will come out on your roll. Gambler's Fallacy happens when your heuristics and biases make you assume that there are patterns you can exploit in a game that would guarantee you wins.
Well the real question is: are you really going to argue with the mathematics of probability just because you saw/might have seen a pattern? Sounds dangerously close to the edge of hopeful thinking and superstition to me. Indeed math says that the probability of getting the same 1/37 for 4 times is less than a 50000th or if you prefer percentages: then about 0.002%. I think you should go with the math with this one.
Sad to say the human brain loves patterns, so it wouldn't be able to avoid pining on these things even if its life depended on it. It has helped us survive the deserts of Africa back when we are still hunter-gatherers, nowadays it serves to cost us a lot in situations where randomness is king. But with enough practice and self-discipline anyone could at least turn a blind eye on these flimsy patterns and help the gambler see the situation for what it really is.
1640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Credit cards and gambling (tabcorp, Australia) on: October 02, 2021, 11:55:52 AM
So the worst-case scenario is a possible outlier case that only a small percentage of gamblers succumb into. That being said it's still something that should be looked upon and I think it is justified that banks are the ones who are supposed to impose restrictions on the gambler's behalf. Gambling addiction is just as bad as any other type of addiction out there and it's not something that could or should be downplayed no matter how absurd it may look or sound to you.
And if they know that there are abusing the credit card from the user, they can know because they will have a way to track the account and investigate. Even if the banks and the government prohibit using credit cards for gambling, the gambler will not have a problem because they will use the other way to continue gambling.
Yes, there will be no point in using credit cards for gambling the concept just doesn't add up to me. Governments want to crack down gambling itself so why then support a system i.e. banks that can provide credit cards to gamblers, possibly one of the most unreliable customers you could have.

In short, I find it problematic for both credit card providers as much as for the gamblers themselves due to their activities being ttracked as clear as day, which may even extend to affecting their credit card history.
There's no need for a ban but rather a more strict monitoring out of those credit card users which had really involved in gambling.Banks could able to do such thing and if there's banning then its clearly
theres mo reason behind that decision because they cant just impose any bans without any depth reason to do so.If they dont like gambling then they could ban it directly without attaching out
credit cards because we know that this isnt only the sole purpose on why credit cards exist on the first place.
Bank-issuing cards can just restrict gambling-related transactions. But you know, it will be easy for gambling sites to just ban it totally but since banks have different policies, it's now up for banks to do the job of banning credit card users. And not all do have credit cards that's why for me, it's not really alarming unless gambling sites have the record that most transactions on their platforms are with the use of credit cards.
  Responsible gambling is the key here basically. For me, people should have all rights to their money, even if it came from their credit cards, but the fact remains that money should be spent wisely, and moves like these which could prevent future jeopardies would be beneficial not only on the person gambling's behalf but would also be beneficial to the banking institution. So it doesn't really matter who bans credit card usage for gambling, as long as rules are imposed, it's all good.
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