Flat Earth

[notbatman]

The Earth is flat like the pizza pie.

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[Przemax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWlFFQjG_WE

Speaking about belief. Even the bible they claim supports flat earth clearly debunks it. Not that the circle of the earth that they claim have any other meaning that its the circle of rotation not necesserly the rotation of the earth but the rotation that the earth is involved with.

Sun is rising wether the earth its concave or convex, but guess what. Sun is not rising on the flat earth it rotates on the flat earth.

Not that it proves anything because science is less prone to misuderstanding, but Ive just gave this vidoe as a bonus type of video.

You are a complete joke. Bible 100% supports flat earth, end of debate right here.

Go back to your inside out ball earth thread in case you have one, and stay there.

As far as Ive noticed you have not even started the debate, but I know that flat earthers have problems with meaning of words.

Ill make another argument against your zero arguments to help you understand what debate is supposed to look like.

Flat earthers say that there are four corners of the world and that it proves flat earth. Well..... No it does not? As far as I know discs have no corners do they? In skycentrist model the four corners of the world are the corners on which the axis of heaven rotation is based on. Its a very common concept in every religious texts of a circle based on the square. Square is the more important aspect here. Its the symbol of rotating square. Churches are build upon a symbol of rotating squares. And ofcourse its not a cube in the middle that rotates but only possibily is that its a piramid or a double piramid with the base or bases of a square.

You say about the stillness of the earth. Ok. Fine its a draw here. The concave earth model say that earth stay still, and its the cape of the heavens that rotates.

There was something about the circle of the earth. As far as I know there are many circles in the ball so logicly the circle of the earth might just mean circumference of the earth. So its a draw here as well with the slight advantage to me as its says its the circle of the earth suggesting of the many. Its not suggesting the earth is a circle.

Bible talks about the abyss and the portals. Flat earth does not have anywhere to fit the abyss. Skycentrism does place the portals at the poles to the outter endless space of nothingness.

So. There are 2 draws and 3 scores for me. End of the debate proving the earth is flat according to the Bible? Well.... I dont think so.

Flat earthers will rant that their god installed a new lamp in the dome... pathetic.

Globe earthers will rant that they saw a slight disturbance in the "shadow" of the light of the star that could be as well a statistical error... pathetic. At least until now ( I dont know what have changed) they calculated (not observed) the existance of the planets outside the solar system, and now its changed? Why? Do you take us for a fools or are you one?

[BADecker]

The Earth is flat like the pizza pie.

If this were true, the angels would have eaten it long ago.   

[aysha9859]

I believe in flat earth. you cant reach the end. cuz there is sea current. noone can beat that sea current.

[oOxenonOo]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

[Przemax]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics not according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

[BADecker]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics no according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Don't judge?! Every time you get out of bed you make a judgement to do so. You judge people and things all day long. Did the cook make your breakfast well enough? Do your eggs have enough hot sauce on them? Do you need another gulp of water?

[Przemax]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics no according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Don't judge?! Every time you get out of bed you make a judgement to do so. You judge people and things all day long. Did the cook make your breakfast well enough? Do your eggs have enough hot sauce on them? Do you need another gulp of water?

Dont judge others because you might be the stupid as well in some sittuation. Firstly judge yourself. Dont talk like if you dont know what im talking about. In other words dont use logical fallacies that if someone is wrong you are right. Thats just wrong. You call yourself a christian and you dont know what Im talking about? Thats bad man. Thats bad.

I want to be judged. Thats why im writing here. Flat earthers judge globe earthers and vice versa and both are in my opinion false that why I have in my opinion all the right to "throw the stone" at them and be judged. Come on. Tell my the options what is the flaw in skycentrism, if you wont I will keep shaming you all in this thread, or at least Ill try and Ill enjoy myself doing so.

[oOxenonOo]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics not according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

[BADecker]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics no according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Don't judge?! Every time you get out of bed you make a judgement to do so. You judge people and things all day long. Did the cook make your breakfast well enough? Do your eggs have enough hot sauce on them? Do you need another gulp of water?

Dont judge others because you might be the stupid as well in some sittuation. Firstly judge yourself. Dont talk like if you dont know what im talking about. In other words dont use logical fallacies that if someone is wrong you are right. Thats just wrong. You call yourself a christian and you dont know what Im talking about? Thats bad man. Thats bad.

Jesus said that we are not supposed to judge. But what was He really talking about? When I get judged by Him, I want to be judged as qualified for salvation.

The math for a black hole says that the BH is the size of a point. Points don't have any size. Black Holes don't exist.

It's semantics in part.

[BADecker]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics not according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Right!

If you travel straight, and not in a right or left circle, which circle would you be going it on a flat earth? And what is it that keeps you from going straight when you seem to be going straight?

FE is all mixed up.

[Przemax]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics no according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Don't judge?! Every time you get out of bed you make a judgement to do so. You judge people and things all day long. Did the cook make your breakfast well enough? Do your eggs have enough hot sauce on them? Do you need another gulp of water?

Dont judge others because you might be the stupid as well in some sittuation. Firstly judge yourself. Dont talk like if you dont know what im talking about. In other words dont use logical fallacies that if someone is wrong you are right. Thats just wrong. You call yourself a christian and you dont know what Im talking about? Thats bad man. Thats bad.

Jesus said that we are not supposed to judge. But what was He really talking about? When I get judged by Him, I want to be judged as qualified for salvation.

The math for a black hole says that the BH is the size of a point. Points don't have any size. Black Holes don't exist.

It's semantics in part.

Not a black hole. Dont you even know that the official science makes patches that invent dark matter that is way more dense than the rest of the universe for their equations to make sense? In other words - they talk to themselfs - fuck it doesnt make sense there must be something to make sense to all of this - lets just invent shit and call it spooky like dark matter. In all other cases that "calculations" would be called cheating, because in other words they say they are right even if they are wrong.

Qualified for salvation because in a lot of verses Jesus implies he dont listen to the hypocrites. So. Just dont be a hypocrite. Its a plain language I dont know why people struggle to understand this.

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Thats not what flat earthers imply! You dont know their theory and you call them stupid. Thats not very smart. You dont know the problems of your heliocentric model as well and you call it absolute truth I suppose as well. Otherwise you wouldnt be so sure that flat earth must be wrong.

[oOxenonOo]

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Thats not what flat earthers imply! You dont know their theory and you call them stupid. Thats not very smart. You dont know the problems of your heliocentric model as well and you call it absolute truth I suppose as well. Otherwise you wouldnt be so sure that flat earth must be wrong.

I did not call anyone stupid, actually i think there are no stupid people just different point of views and different experiences

I just said that on flat surface you cant make circle if you are going straight, on Earth you can, so obviously Earth is round object

[Longsnowsm]

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Thats not what flat earthers imply! You dont know their theory and you call them stupid. Thats not very smart. You dont know the problems of your heliocentric model as well and you call it absolute truth I suppose as well. Otherwise you wouldnt be so sure that flat earth must be wrong.

I did not call anyone stupid, actually i think there are no stupid people just different point of views and different experiences

I just said that on flat surface you cant make circle if you are going straight, on Earth you can, so obviously Earth is round object

   You seriously haven't given this much thought at all...

Go east on the flat earth and tell me where you end up...  Now reverse course and go west on the flat earth and tell us where you end up. 

Next try to find anyone who has actually, provably circumnavigated north to south or south to north around the entire earth...  You can count on 1 hand the number to claim they have done the north to south/south to north circumnavigation.  And when you check into their stories well lets just say there are issues.

Now try to count the number of people who have done this east to west circumnavigation... You will have a hard time counting how many of done this.  Now the excuses about why this is that so many have circumnavigated east to west/west to east, but few if any have done this same trek north/south...  Red flags are everywhere... If you have an inquisitive mind and question the things that you are told. 

So I would strongly suggest you take some time to give this some thought.   

[Przemax]

And thats why people should be sure not to misunderstood someone that is wrong, because if you misunderstood him he grows the presumption that he is right, because in his mind he is so sophisticated and smart that he is misunderstood.

That should be like a manual how to deal with flat earthers and nasa supporters. Make sure you know their explanations. If you know their explanation they are silent. If you make any little error they show you how you misunderstand them. Its like they breed on error and die from starvation from truth. Both of those particular trolls will say - you dont understand our mumbo jumbo. And if you prove them otherwise they starve to death. Then they are silent and after 2-3 days both sides starts throwing the bananas of mumbo jumbo towards eachother and fuckfest begins again.

Wrong should only be met with right, otherwise this whole thread is starting to look like 90% a fucking troll fest on both sides. And I have pressumption that this thread only have sense to most of you as a troll fest to begin with. Everyone waits for some low ball just to kick out the farthest that is possible, or low hanging fruit to prove how seemingly sophisticated they are. Dont give them a chance to do that.

[Przemax]

... low hanging fruit to prove how seemingly sophisticated they are.

Talks of sophistication - Believes in hollow earth and mocks NASA.

LOL.

At least my posts are more sophisticated than 2 liners and or meme.

[serbad]

... quack, quack, quack.

Lastly, and most importantly, you fail to realise that the Earth was proved to be a sphere long before NASA ever were involved, maybe you might want to start posting you tube links to videos showing the "lies of the Ancient Greeks"; possibly start with Pythagoras.

The situation can be redeemed.
Emancipate yourself's from mental slavery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFGgbT_VasI

[BADecker]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics no according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Don't judge?! Every time you get out of bed you make a judgement to do so. You judge people and things all day long. Did the cook make your breakfast well enough? Do your eggs have enough hot sauce on them? Do you need another gulp of water?

Dont judge others because you might be the stupid as well in some sittuation. Firstly judge yourself. Dont talk like if you dont know what im talking about. In other words dont use logical fallacies that if someone is wrong you are right. Thats just wrong. You call yourself a christian and you dont know what Im talking about? Thats bad man. Thats bad.

Jesus said that we are not supposed to judge. But what was He really talking about? When I get judged by Him, I want to be judged as qualified for salvation.

The math for a black hole says that the BH is the size of a point. Points don't have any size. Black Holes don't exist.

It's semantics in part.

Not a black hole. Dont you even know that the official science makes patches that invent dark matter that is way more dense than the rest of the universe for their equations to make sense? In other words - they talk to themselfs - fuck it doesnt make sense there must be something to make sense to all of this - lets just invent shit and call it spooky like dark matter. In all other cases that "calculations" would be called cheating, because in other words they say they are right even if they are wrong.

Qualified for salvation because in a lot of verses Jesus implies he dont listen to the hypocrites. So. Just dont be a hypocrite. Its a plain language I dont know why people struggle to understand this.

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Thats not what flat earthers imply! You dont know their theory and you call them stupid. Thats not very smart. You dont know the problems of your heliocentric model as well and you call it absolute truth I suppose as well. Otherwise you wouldnt be so sure that flat earth must be wrong.

The Bible tells us that all people are liars. So, if I state such, am I a liar when I state it? The point is, everyone states some truth and some lies.

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The standard simple triangulation of the stars with relation to the earth and sun, shows that the earth is a globe, that the sun is roughly 93,000,000 miles from the earth, that the sun is roughly 800,000 miles in diameter. If you add the moon, that the moon is roughly 225,000 miles away, and that its diameter is roughly 2,159 miles.

This stuff is based on simple triangulation that is used everyday by surveyors all over the world. This triangulation is shown to work by using it small scale, and then making actual measurements by ruler or tape measure to see if it is right. In addition to that, complex math shows that this triangulation is accurate.

FE people don't have anything that refutes triangulation. Neither do they have actual small-scale measurements that prove it is wrong. Geometry and calculus that show that standard triangulation it is correct.

Flat earth is false. It is religion if it is believed to be true.

[Przemax]

Oldest and longest resisting hoax ever made by man kind.

Heliocentrism - the youngest and shortest resisting hoax ever made by manking.

P.S Im not a flat earther. But dont judge if you dont want to be judged. You see only flaws in the flat earth model like if heliocentric was flawless. No sir its faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from sustainable. They need to invent utterly stupid shit like dark matter for heliocentrism to make even slightest of sense. Just check what is a dark matter according to physics no according to popular science. Its a mass that "must be there" otherwise all of their calculations are wrong. Yeah they are wrong with or without a dark matter lol.

Don't judge?! Every time you get out of bed you make a judgement to do so. You judge people and things all day long. Did the cook make your breakfast well enough? Do your eggs have enough hot sauce on them? Do you need another gulp of water?

Dont judge others because you might be the stupid as well in some sittuation. Firstly judge yourself. Dont talk like if you dont know what im talking about. In other words dont use logical fallacies that if someone is wrong you are right. Thats just wrong. You call yourself a christian and you dont know what Im talking about? Thats bad man. Thats bad.

Jesus said that we are not supposed to judge. But what was He really talking about? When I get judged by Him, I want to be judged as qualified for salvation.

The math for a black hole says that the BH is the size of a point. Points don't have any size. Black Holes don't exist.

It's semantics in part.

Not a black hole. Dont you even know that the official science makes patches that invent dark matter that is way more dense than the rest of the universe for their equations to make sense? In other words - they talk to themselfs - fuck it doesnt make sense there must be something to make sense to all of this - lets just invent shit and call it spooky like dark matter. In all other cases that "calculations" would be called cheating, because in other words they say they are right even if they are wrong.

Qualified for salvation because in a lot of verses Jesus implies he dont listen to the hypocrites. So. Just dont be a hypocrite. Its a plain language I dont know why people struggle to understand this.

Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Thats not what flat earthers imply! You dont know their theory and you call them stupid. Thats not very smart. You dont know the problems of your heliocentric model as well and you call it absolute truth I suppose as well. Otherwise you wouldnt be so sure that flat earth must be wrong.

The Bible tells us that all people are liars. So, if I state such, am I a liar when I state it? The point is, everyone states some truth and some lies.

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The standard simple triangulation of the stars with relation to the earth and sun, shows that the earth is a globe, that the sun is roughly 93,000,000 miles from the earth, that the sun is roughly 800,000 miles in diameter. If you add the moon, that the moon is roughly 225,000 miles away, and that its diameter is roughly 2,159 miles.

This stuff is based on simple triangulation that is used everyday by surveyors all over the world. This triangulation is shown to work by using it small scale, and then making actual measurements by ruler or tape measure to see if it is right. In addition to that, complex math shows that this triangulation is accurate.

FE people don't have anything that refutes triangulation. Neither do they have actual small-scale measurements that prove it is wrong. Geometry and calculus that show that standard triangulation it is correct.

Flat earth is false. It is religion if it is believed to be true.

Its imposible to measure by trigonometry the distance to the sun using  the earth as a refference because the sun in bigger than the earth according to official story. We cant use stars as a refference as well as we dont know how far those are either. We could measure the distance to the sun knowing the distance from earth to lets say venus. But in my opinion we dont know that. Official science says we use venus if Im not wrong to make such a calculations.  

They dont have to refute something you dont accuratly say how you measure. Are you using the earth, venus and the sun in your triangulation? Or you just heard they do that? Or you dont understand what you are talking about? How do they meassure the distance from earth to venus? Triangulation as well? How? Magic? You know you have to have three defined points to triangulate do you? And there has be known distance between one of them.

They make the assumption that venus is roughly the same size as the earth because thats what they thought would make sense. Well. That doesnt make it true. If its smaller than they think the sun is relativly closer and if venus is very small the sun is very close. Outside of all this assumptions the venus have a very strange orbital pattern that has nothing to do with randomness with its relation to the sun and earth (supposed pentagram pattern and other utterly weird shit)

All of that is just assumptions that we can make from the earth when we dont have the confirmed data at least outside of the supposed earth gravity field (im just using the official science terminology that I dont think is either true or accurate). Its a stuff thats just unproven calculations based on assumptions, so its far from established truth.

p.s about your antiintelect position of catholic church .Im 100% opossed to your doom and gloom that everyone is bad and a liar. People need to lie to themselfs to believe the lie and thats the problem. Its a matter of intelect to know such a stuff and people are made to be intelligent. We can know the truth and we can see if someone is lying dont make assumptions that people are hopelessly dumb. Purposeful and cold blooded lying is rare and its mostly cultural based. Catholics mostly are dumb, because they reject their mental faculty. I wouldnt say that what God would want. And people are inherently good, but a little messed up by the nefilims and under their influence. And human being are like a clay (from what he came) it can be formed to be good or bad by education and good or bad influence.

[BitNow]

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