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[jostorres]

Australia, Newzealand, England, India, Barbados ( west indies), Srilanka, Pakistan and South Africa will take part in women's cricket event of commonwealth games that are starting from 27 July 2022. Last time these teams meet in women worldcup and Australia won the worldcup without losing a single match.

Last time we had cricket in commonwealth games was in 1998. Back then, there were a total of 16 participants, including India and two from the WICB (Barbados, and Antigua and Barbuda). Associate nations such as Kenya, Scotland and Ireland also participated. Back then, South Africa won the gold, by defeating Australia in the final match (New Zealand won the bronze medal). This time under pressure from the ICC, they cancelled the men's event and scheduled a 8-team women's event. It makes no sense to have a tournament with just 8 teams.

For me this all is totally useless and waste of time because if you are accepting pressure from ICC about men event and having only 8 women teams even you can arrange more than stop this all and just go ahead with your crap policies don't waste time with this all.

If ICC is ever having any positive attitude through this game then surely they try to work with them and arrange under 19 or under 23 teams from men as well which bring some good and interesting matches with only native players allowed to participate because this is also very important right now, but they are pressuring for no men and only eight women which mean they are never having any solid policy for these games and trying to follow their own agenda.

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[posi]

Australia, Newzealand, England, India, Barbados ( west indies), Srilanka, Pakistan and South Africa will take part in women's cricket event of commonwealth games that are starting from 27 July 2022. Last time these teams meet in women worldcup and Australia won the worldcup without losing a single match.

Last time we had cricket in commonwealth games was in 1998. Back then, there were a total of 16 participants, including India and two from the WICB (Barbados, and Antigua and Barbuda). Associate nations such as Kenya, Scotland and Ireland also participated. Back then, South Africa won the gold, by defeating Australia in the final match (New Zealand won the bronze medal). This time under pressure from the ICC, they cancelled the men's event and scheduled a 8-team women's event. It makes no sense to have a tournament with just 8 teams.

For me this all is totally useless and waste of time because if you are accepting pressure from ICC about men event and having only 8 women teams even you can arrange more than stop this all and just go ahead with your crap policies don't waste time with this all.
If ICC is ever having any positive attitude through this game then surely they try to work with them and arrange under 19 or under 23 teams from men as well which bring some good and interesting matches with only native players allowed to participate because this is also very important right now, but they are pressuring for no men and only eight women which mean they are never having any solid policy for these games and trying to follow their own agenda.

I see where your frustration is coming from but right now a certain process is going on. It is going to be hard work to change the process overnight.

It is possible to change the process. But obviously, it is going to take a lot of time because once something has stated its power it is hard to dethrone them. I am obviously talking about the power of the big three over the ICC.

Even if ICC is having a positive attitude toward this game it is quite impossible to improve as a sports body for ICC because of the big three. so after all it comes down to only one thing. the people in power don't want to lose control. and another thing is  ICC also has problems.  one-sided love is never successful if you know what I mean.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Last time we had cricket in commonwealth games was in 1998. Back then, there were a total of 16 participants, including India and two from the WICB (Barbados, and Antigua and Barbuda). Associate nations such as Kenya, Scotland and Ireland also participated. Back then, South Africa won the gold, by defeating Australia in the final match (New Zealand won the bronze medal). This time under pressure from the ICC, they cancelled the men's event and scheduled a 8-team women's event. It makes no sense to have a tournament with just 8 teams.

The real issue is if women cricket is included in commonwealth then why not men cricket is there? ICC clearly has no intentions of taking cricket to larger levels like Olympics. Let more countries join in and play the cricket that's the only way associate counties can improve there crikcet.

[eaLiTy]

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If someone can't get a chance to represent India or Pakistan, then it means that they don't have the necessary quality to take part in top quality cricket. Such players won't do any good even if they move to other teams. They will only steal the chances of hardworking native players. In case of the GCC nations, it is understandable. Without the foreign players, they won't be having a playing XI. But that is not the case with teams such as Kenya and Nepal, because the latter group do have a lot of natives playing cricket.

Emirates Cricket Board is not hiring players by coming down to India or Pakistan and watching the domestic tournaments. The players that are in the team are expats who moved to GCC and then continuing on their passion of playing Cricket and if they are good enough to be selected they will be hired to play in the National team and there is a selection process for that for expats and once they get selected they would obviously get better perks than they used to get from their normal job and can resign from their designation or have an extended leave and play for the national team and this is how the process works.

[ilovealtcoins]

Last time we had cricket in commonwealth games was in 1998. Back then, there were a total of 16 participants, including India and two from the WICB (Barbados, and Antigua and Barbuda). Associate nations such as Kenya, Scotland and Ireland also participated. Back then, South Africa won the gold, by defeating Australia in the final match (New Zealand won the bronze medal). This time under pressure from the ICC, they cancelled the men's event and scheduled a 8-team women's event. It makes no sense to have a tournament with just 8 teams.

The real issue is if women cricket is included in commonwealth then why not men cricket is there? ICC clearly has no intentions of taking cricket to larger levels like Olympics. Let more countries join in and play the cricket that's the only way associate counties can improve there crikcet.

That is not going to happen. ICC is not going to give the associate countries good enough chances to improve at the game. and the teams are also not going to improve because of that. ICC just does not want to accept that cricket is not very popular All Around The World and they will have to make cricket popular in a lot of areas.  they just don't have any headaches about it.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

That is not going to happen. ICC is not going to give the associate countries good enough chances to improve at the game. and the teams are also not going to improve because of that. ICC just does not want to accept that cricket is not very popular All Around The World and they will have to make cricket popular in a lot of areas.  they just don't have any headaches about it.

Prime reason is that ICC these days is getting sufficient funds from IPL so they don't wanna do anything else. Already teams like Kenya and Zimbabwe are gone from international horizon but icc has no regret about that. As long as icc don't allow associate countries in big events like WC we won't see level of associate countries going up.

[savetheFORUM]

The real issue is if women cricket is included in commonwealth then why not men cricket is there? ICC clearly has no intentions of taking cricket to larger levels like Olympics. Let more countries join in and play the cricket that's the only way associate counties can improve there crikcet.

That is not going to happen. ICC is not going to give the associate countries good enough chances to improve at the game. and the teams are also not going to improve because of that. ICC just does not want to accept that cricket is not very popular All Around The World and they will have to make cricket popular in a lot of areas.  they just don't have any headaches about it.

ICC's treatment with Associates countries creating some serious confusion because I am feeling they are not interested to bring them into main stream, or they are confused about something so just because of this they are doing nothing for this all even they can do many things which can bring some good revenue and entertainment with this game in many parts of the world which is essential like we are watching FIFA is doing and bringing more quality and better infrastructure for their own main stream.

With this all they can ensure better media rights, and surely they could be able to have some more sponsors which are important but sadly right now B-4 in ICC having all focus on IPL.

[Sithara007]

For me this all is totally useless and waste of time because if you are accepting pressure from ICC about men event and having only 8 women teams even you can arrange more than stop this all and just go ahead with your crap policies don't waste time with this all.

If ICC is ever having any positive attitude through this game then surely they try to work with them and arrange under 19 or under 23 teams from men as well which bring some good and interesting matches with only native players allowed to participate because this is also very important right now, but they are pressuring for no men and only eight women which mean they are never having any solid policy for these games and trying to follow their own agenda.

This is something that I don't understand. In case of football, the governing body has allowed a U-23 competition for Commonwealth Games and Olympics. This serves two purposes at the same time. Emerging and young players get a chance to represent their country, and at the same time the star players can continue playing for their clubs. I am at a loss to understand why the ICC is against this idea? Even a U-19 competition would be mutually beneficial. It will give good exposure to a lot of young players who will represent the senior team in the future.

[CryptoYar]

The real issue is if women cricket is included in commonwealth then why not men cricket is there?

At least they have included it, as we have not seen cricket in Commonwealth Games since 1998. Therefore, it is a positive move and in the future, we may see men's cricket matches too.

ICC clearly has no intentions of taking cricket to larger levels like Olympics. Let more countries join in and play the cricket that's the only way associate counties can improve there crikcet.

ICC is turned into ICP (International cricket politics) Where conspiracies are hatched against small teams.

[Vaskiy]

ICC clearly has no intentions of taking cricket to larger levels like Olympics. Let more countries join in and play the cricket that's the only way associate counties can improve there crikcet.

ICC is turned into ICP (International cricket politics) Where conspiracies are hatched against small teams.

This is true, and in particular few countries are in dominance. Why this is happening? All are due to the revenue generated out of cricket. If cricket is taken to Olympics and to other World level meets, automatically there'll be more countries participation. This will make ICC loss its control. Another important thing, few countries that are into dominance will also suffer as more countries make fast progress.

[Sithara007]

This is true, and in particular few countries are in dominance. Why this is happening? All are due to the revenue generated out of cricket. If cricket is taken to Olympics and to other World level meets, automatically there'll be more countries participation. This will make ICC loss its control. Another important thing, few countries that are into dominance will also suffer as more countries make fast progress.

As far as I understand, these are the concerns raised by the BCCI and ICC on Olympic inclusion:

1. Foreigners won't be allowed to represent. Olympics and Commonwealth Games can be participated only by citizens of a particular country
2. Stringent testing against performance enhancing drugs.
3. Cricket board need to report to the national Olympic association for matters related to Olympic Games
4. No automatic qualification. All the teams need to participate in qualifier tournament
5. For the duration of Olympics, the cricket calendar maybe blocked due to unavailability of players
6. Revenue distribution will be decided by the Olympic committee.

[doomloop]

ICC clearly has no intentions of taking cricket to larger levels like Olympics. Let more countries join in and play the cricket that's the only way associate counties can improve there crikcet.

ICC is turned into ICP (International cricket politics) Where conspiracies are hatched against small teams.

Here I agree with @CryptoYar now we can call this ICC as ICP because of their hypocrite political behavior and poor management they need to review about this all constitution if they want to alive in this era which is bringing some strong methods for growing your own things in huge way and can earn big profit, but they are still doing politics which is not helpful for anyone.

For second question why Commonwealth included men cricket brother they have done this, but ICC refuse this which is wired, and I am unable to provide any solid reply about this because if they consult then surely we have many ways to handle this situation but brainless ICC management have no enough time for this all.

[Sithara007]

Here I agree with @CryptoYar now we can call this ICC as ICP because of their hypocrite political behavior and poor management they need to review about this all constitution if they want to alive in this era which is bringing some strong methods for growing your own things in huge way and can earn big profit, but they are still doing politics which is not helpful for anyone.

For second question why Commonwealth included men cricket brother they have done this, but ICC refuse this which is wired, and I am unable to provide any solid reply about this because if they consult then surely we have many ways to handle this situation but brainless ICC management have no enough time for this all.

The Commonwealth guys doesn't have balls and that's why it happened. Look at what happened during the Asian Games. The BCCI and ICC told Asian Games Committee that they will not allow cricket to be a part of the Asian Games in 2014. But the latter told them that they don't care about the permission and went ahead with the inclusion of cricket. India refused to send a cricket team, but the tournament was still a success. All the four test nations from Asia (apart from India) participated in the tournament, along with 7 associate nations.

[CryptoYar]

This is true, and in particular few countries are in dominance. Why this is happening? All are due to the revenue generated out of cricket. If cricket is taken to Olympics and to other World level meets, automatically there'll be more countries participation. This will make ICC loss its control. [..]

90% of the revenue of the International Cricket Council goes from India, which is why the Indian Cricket Board holds the highest dominance over other boards.

The only solution is; There should be maximum number of bilateral series so that other boards should also stand on their feet and not be ruled by only one board.

Here I agree with @CryptoYar now we can call this ICC as ICP

Bro, it's pity that cricket is being used as a political weapon. whereas it was a gentleman's game.

[romero121]

This is true, and in particular few countries are in dominance. Why this is happening? All are due to the revenue generated out of cricket. If cricket is taken to Olympics and to other World level meets, automatically there'll be more countries participation. This will make ICC loss its control. [..]

90% of the revenue of the International Cricket Council goes from India, which is why the Indian Cricket Board holds the highest dominance over other boards.

The only solution is; There should be maximum number of bilateral series so that other boards should also stand on their feet and not be ruled by only one board.

Every cricketing nation needs to be given equally space. India have got more audience for cricket and that's the reason why ICC is dominated by India. When we talk of bilateral series, low ranked teams need to be given opportunity to play against the top teams. Only such match schedules can help in the improvement of the low bottom team's performance.

[vennali]

Every cricketing nation needs to be given equally space. India have got more audience for cricket and that's the reason why ICC is dominated by India. When we talk of bilateral series, low ranked teams need to be given opportunity to play against the top teams. Only such match schedules can help in the improvement of the low bottom team's performance.

Bilateral series do happen and with much more frequency than before. There are a lot more teams playing cricket now and even the smaller teams are playing each other far more than ever. Cricket is flourishing, at least compared to the past but the question is. Is ICC doing enough for the game to be more wide spread and popular? or are the just content with it and just manage the current teams involved and just hope the sport grows organically.

[wiss19]

For me this all is totally useless and waste of time because if you are accepting pressure from ICC about men event and having only 8 women teams even you can arrange more than stop this all and just go ahead with your crap policies don't waste time with this all.

If ICC is ever having any positive attitude through this game then surely they try to work with them and arrange under 19 or under 23 teams from men as well which bring some good and interesting matches with only native players allowed to participate because this is also very important right now, but they are pressuring for no men and only eight women which mean they are never having any solid policy for these games and trying to follow their own agenda.

This is something that I don't understand. In case of football, the governing body has allowed a U-23 competition for Commonwealth Games and Olympics. This serves two purposes at the same time. Emerging and young players get a chance to represent their country, and at the same time the star players can continue playing for their clubs. I am at a loss to understand why the ICC is against this idea? Even a U-19 competition would be mutually beneficial. It will give good exposure to a lot of young players who will represent the senior team in the future.

Surely these questions are creating serious question mark on ICC mindset why they are not encouraging these teams which can bring some good quality and chance for new generation players for having good platform which can help them in future as well, and it's not had any side effects because Olympics and Commonwealth both are allowing these teams with star players able to serve in their clubs and countries can bring their new talent.

I personally check many things for these replies but have nothing positive why ICC is having this dual face for the improvement of this game who is having problem and why we need answers but no one available for this all.

[fuguebtc]

Here I agree with @CryptoYar now we can call this ICC as ICP because of their hypocrite political behavior and poor management they need to review about this all constitution if they want to alive in this era which is bringing some strong methods for growing your own things in huge way and can earn big profit, but they are still doing politics which is not helpful for anyone.
For second question why Commonwealth included men cricket brother they have done this, but ICC refuse this which is wired, and I am unable to provide any solid reply about this because if they consult then surely we have many ways to handle this situation but brainless ICC management have no enough time for this all.

The Commonwealth guys doesn't have balls and that's why it happened. Look at what happened during the Asian Games. The BCCI and ICC told Asian Games Committee that they will not allow cricket to be a part of the Asian Games in 2014. But the latter told them that they don't care about the permission and went ahead with the inclusion of cricket. India refused to send a cricket team, but the tournament was still a success. All the four test nations from Asia (apart from India) participated in the tournament, along with 7 associate nations.

We can find a very good link between ICC and India. ICC said no and India also did not send their team but it was still a success. And this is not only the case in India. I think the four big countries which are playing cricket regularly are very much responsible for cricket not being a popular game worldwide. But this could obviously change if ICC had the balls to take their decisions alone and not depend on others. ICC is the culprit here along with the big four. There is a reason why almost everyone started hating the top 4 cricket-playing nations and this is not going to end well for cricket and also ICC if cricket is not popularized soon enough.

[BobK71]

This is true, and in particular few countries are in dominance. Why this is happening? All are due to the revenue generated out of cricket. If cricket is taken to Olympics and to other World level meets, automatically there'll be more countries participation. This will make ICC loss its control. [..]

90% of the revenue of the International Cricket Council goes from India, which is why the Indian Cricket Board holds the highest dominance over other boards.

The only solution is; There should be maximum number of bilateral series so that other boards should also stand on their feet and not be ruled by only one board.

Every cricketing nation needs to be given equally space. India have got more audience for cricket and that's the reason why ICC is dominated by India. When we talk of bilateral series, low ranked teams need to be given opportunity to play against the top teams. Only such match schedules can help in the improvement of the low bottom team's performance.

I agree with you. The big problem for small teams in cricket is that they do not get chance to play with big teams. That is why big teams are always on top. I think ICC should take action in this regard and create a fixture of the whole countries. Otherwise, it is not possible to expect the progress of cricket. They have to make strict rules that there must be strong and week team series. Otherwise they will not be able to take part in the World Cup. I think if there were such strict rules implemented everyone would agree to play with a small team.

[lixer]

90% of the revenue of the International Cricket Council goes from India, which is why the Indian Cricket Board holds the highest dominance over other boards.

The only solution is; There should be maximum number of bilateral series so that other boards should also stand on their feet and not be ruled by only one board.

Here you need some correction it's not 90% it's about 70% to 75% and just because of cricket is having very limited market India is the biggest country so BCCI is taking advantage of this all which is surely killing many good things.

Even I am in favor that ICC needs to give India big part of profit but still they need to do some good work for other things as well now recently they are asking for 2 to 3 months window for IPL which is surely never been ideal thing but most chances they will have this because B-4 all having big profit from this IPL as they are providing many players now with increase of teams their profit is also going to increase, so there is nothing wrong if they completely favor this suggestion from BCCI in ICC meeting.

Surely cricket is using as political weapon, and it's working in just 3 or 4 countries which is colonial mindset hopefully we will have some positive changes if they want to increase their market and have any positiveness about cricket to spread around the glob.