Cricket match prediction discussions

[Sithara007]

Tbh I have no idea the amount of associate nations are getting from the ICC right now but I agree they can't expect more because the last time I heard back in 2015 or so it was like a million or so, that's a fucking joke and criminal imo.

No wonder cricket is not spreading quickly as it is supposed to be.

There are two different factors.

1. The funding for associate members were reduced from $62.5 million per year in 2007-15 cycle to $20 million per year in 2015-23 cycle ($20 million was a compromise after Srinivasan-Pawar mafia proposed zero funds for the associate nations in 2014).

2. The eligibility rules were changed, allowing countries to form teams with 100% foreigners. This benefitted Oman, UAE.etc, and they now receive a greater share of funds. Adversely affected countries with native players such as Nepal and Argentina. They are unable to win matches and therefore receive a smaller share of the funds.

For countries such as UAE, the decrease is not very significant. They receive almost the same amount of funds that they used to receive before 2015. But for countries fielding native players such as Kenya, Thailand, PNG and Nepal, the funds that they now receive is around 10% of what they used to get before 2015. And it is not surprising that cricket is dying in these countries.

[coinerer]

There is good development for Pakistan, Muhammad Hasnain is bowling at 150 kph with his new bowling action. He is also taking wickets in current tournament that tells the story that he can bowl with his new bowling action. He is just 24 years old and with shaheen Shah he can serve Pakistan for 10 years atleast.

Every pace king comes out of Pakistan. Currently Pakistan team is performing fairly well.Muhammad Hasnain bowls at a speed of 150 km, we can say that the speed is very complete and unusual.And the wicket he is taking in the current tournament is really commendable And the story seems to be.And he is doing all these performances at the age of 24. I always pray to go further and do better in the future.

It is very easy to say that Pakistan is a factory producing fast bowlers. It can be said that Pakistan is the origin of the best bowlers in history. Here I would like to mention the names of some fast bowlers who are very familiar faces. Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Imran Khan, Fazal Mahmood, Shoaib Akhtar, Sarfraz Nawaz, Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Asif, Umar Gul, Aaqib  and Javed everyone is born from Pakistani cricket.

[Ayers]

Tbh I have no idea the amount of associate nations are getting from the ICC right now but I agree they can't expect more because the last time I heard back in 2015 or so it was like a million or so, that's a fucking joke and criminal imo.

No wonder cricket is not spreading quickly as it is supposed to be.

There are two different factors.

1. The funding for associate members were reduced from $62.5 million per year in 2007-15 cycle to $20 million per year in 2015-23 cycle ($20 million was a compromise after Srinivasan-Pawar mafia proposed zero funds for the associate nations in 2014).

2. The eligibility rules were changed, allowing countries to form teams with 100% foreigners. This benefitted Oman, UAE.etc, and they now receive a greater share of funds. Adversely affected countries with native players such as Nepal and Argentina. They are unable to win matches and therefore receive a smaller share of the funds.

For countries such as UAE, the decrease is not very significant. They receive almost the same amount of funds that they used to receive before 2015. But for countries fielding native players such as Kenya, Thailand, PNG and Nepal, the funds that they now receive is around 10% of what they used to get before 2015. And it is not surprising that cricket is dying in these countries.

i believe that ICC did such a thing (reducing the amount that the associate teams are getting from the ICC) because they were not generating revenue from these associate countries
i think if it was any other sports body they actually would have tried to find a way to make the teams play better and eventually generate a lot more revenue from them

but the problem is ICC tried to take the easy way out, and they just decided to not invest more money where they are not getting revenue from
obviously, this action had some reaction, the rich countries have benefited greatly from this, and the poor countries are the ones to suffer
this reaction was possible for another reason, which is being able to form the national team with foreigners, that further decreased the quality of poor teams

[SirLancelot]

i believe that ICC did such a thing (reducing the amount that the associate teams are getting from the ICC) because they were not generating revenue from these associate countries
i think if it was any other sports body they actually would have tried to find a way to make the teams play better and eventually generate a lot more revenue from them

but the problem is ICC tried to take the easy way out, and they just decided to not invest more money where they are not getting revenue from
obviously, this action had some reaction, the rich countries have benefited greatly from this, and the poor countries are the ones to suffer
this reaction was possible for another reason, which is being able to form the national team with foreigners, that further decreased the quality of poor teams

This talk is going to be long because right now if ICC is going to do any decision like if they have no enough funds then they are not going to help them surely this could be disaster because they will lose good amount, and they could be not able to run their system which is very important for this game they need to work on like FIFA where they are providing funds to all countries and helping them for having better structure and quality which is very important for them even FIFA is very big, and their income is also much ahead from ICC but here they also can increase their income, but they need to do work on this with positive mind set.

Just helping B-4 is never been going to increase this game's popularity and income most of the time if they are just thinking about India and IPL then surely it's going good way for having better sources of income go ahead and do better marketing and spread this game with just T-20 format which is the best way of income for them right now.

[Sithara007]

This talk is going to be long because right now if ICC is going to do any decision like if they have no enough funds then they are not going to help them surely this could be disaster because they will lose good amount, and they could be not able to run their system which is very important for this game they need to work on like FIFA where they are providing funds to all countries and helping them for having better structure and quality which is very important for them even FIFA is very big, and their income is also much ahead from ICC but here they also can increase their income, but they need to do work on this with positive mind set.

Just helping B-4 is never been going to increase this game's popularity and income most of the time if they are just thinking about India and IPL then surely it's going good way for having better sources of income go ahead and do better marketing and spread this game with just T-20 format which is the best way of income for them right now.

A lot of focus has been on the BCCI and their demands for more funds. The Indian board has softened their stance, after the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia was kicked out. Now they are in favor of Olympics inclusion and more sympathetic towards the associate nations. But at the same time, no one really talks about the discrepancy within some of the lower ranking test nations. There is no justification for Zimbabwe receiving $12 million per year from the ICC, while teams such as Nepal receive only around 2% of that amount.

Test status should not be permanent. There should be a promotion-relegation system, where lower ranking teams such as Zimbabwe should play against top ranking associate nations such as Scotland to retain their test status.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

A lot of focus has been on the BCCI and their demands for more funds. The Indian board has softened their stance, after the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia was kicked out. Now they are in favor of Olympics inclusion and more sympathetic towards the associate nations. But at the same time, no one really talks about the discrepancy within some of the lower ranking test nations. There is no justification for Zimbabwe receiving $12 million per year from the ICC, while teams such as Nepal receive only around 2% of that amount.

Test status should not be permanent. There should be a promotion-relegation system, where lower ranking teams such as Zimbabwe should play against top ranking associate nations such as Scotland to retain their test status.

Afghanistan players were raised and trained in Pakistan and PCB is not a big board like big 3. Why BCCI is not helping Nepal so that level of cricket there is raised and they start playing international cricket. Nepal is very much dependent on India. Anyways dont expect anything good from ICC for associate countries.

[Ayers]

This talk is going to be long because right now if ICC is going to do any decision like if they have no enough funds then they are not going to help them surely this could be disaster because they will lose good amount, and they could be not able to run their system which is very important for this game they need to work on like FIFA where they are providing funds to all countries and helping them for having better structure and quality which is very important for them even FIFA is very big, and their income is also much ahead from ICC but here they also can increase their income, but they need to do work on this with positive mind set.
Just helping B-4 is never been going to increase this game's popularity and income most of the time if they are just thinking about India and IPL then surely it's going good way for having better sources of income go ahead and do better marketing and spread this game with just T-20 format which is the best way of income for them right now.

A lot of focus has been on the BCCI and their demands for more funds. The Indian board has softened their stance, after the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia was kicked out. Now they are in favor of Olympics inclusion and more sympathetic towards the associate nations. But at the same time, no one really talks about the discrepancy within some of the lower ranking test nations. There is no justification for Zimbabwe receiving $12 million per year from the ICC, while teams such as Nepal receive only around 2% of that amount.
Test status should not be permanent. There should be a promotion-relegation system, where lower ranking teams such as Zimbabwe should play against top ranking associate nations such as Scotland to retain their test status.

i don't know why but in my opinion ICC feels like they have become so lazy right now, this should be the perfect opportunity for the ICC to show that they actually care about the game, i think this is a time when cricket is at its lowest point, and ICC can really show right now that they are actually working for the future of cricket by doing some simple stuff like increasing the funding of associate nations and just even trying to include cricket in the Olympics, i don't think any cricket board is planning to oppose these ideas now, but ICC is still not doing anything

[justdimin]

Afghanistan players were raised and trained in Pakistan and PCB is not a big board like big 3. Why BCCI is not helping Nepal so that level of cricket there is raised and they start playing international cricket. Nepal is very much dependent on India. Anyways dont expect anything good from ICC for associate countries.

I am not agreed with you about this as Afghan players are trained and raised in Pakistan if you have any link then please send me because mostly they play in Sharjah UAE or India where they have a ground for playing test matches as home ground, and they were mostly stayed in these two countries before Taliban era in Afghanistan like the UAE and India just because of this please not spread fake news without any proof.

They play their first test match against India as well, and they have good base in India instead of Pakistan which is well known by all cricketing community I agree about these associates never expect any positive thing from ICC as they are benched of crap peoples which are not interested in development of this game like we have FIFA and few other games which are spreading drastically around the world with strong system and better ideas.

[SirLancelot]

i don't know why but in my opinion ICC feels like they have become so lazy right now, this should be the perfect opportunity for the ICC to show that they actually care about the game, i think this is a time when cricket is at its lowest point, and ICC can really show right now that they are actually working for the future of cricket by doing some simple stuff like increasing the funding of associate nations and just even trying to include cricket in the Olympics, i don't think any cricket board is planning to oppose these ideas now, but ICC is still not doing anything

I don't think they are lazy they are unprofessional and using their power in wrong way which is never been better for development of this game cricket they need to work like a strong sports authority but sadly right now they are doing all just for IPL and BCCI which is surely never been positive and developing for this game if they follow all rules and go through with level then surely they can achieve better results but sadly first Australia and England were in hold, and they used this ICC for their own sack and now India is big player, so they are doing same mistake which is surely hurting the cause of this game.

I believe they have right to take some advantage from their big shape and take some benefit but still they need to go fair and equally with all other members because this is need of time and better future of this game but sadly no one going to do any positive thing for this game which is surely going to hurt in near future.

[sovie]

Afghanistan players were raised and trained in Pakistan and PCB is not a big board like big 3. Why BCCI is not helping Nepal so that level of cricket there is raised and they start playing international cricket. Nepal is very much dependent on India. Anyways dont expect anything good from ICC for associate countries.

I am not agreed with you about this as Afghan players are trained and raised in Pakistan if you have any link then please send me because mostly they play in Sharjah UAE or India where they have a ground for playing test matches as home ground, and they were mostly stayed in these two countries before Taliban era in Afghanistan like the UAE and India just because of this please not spread fake news without any proof.

They play their first test match against India as well, and they have good base in India instead of Pakistan which is well known by all cricketing community I agree about these associates never expect any positive thing from ICC as they are benched of crap peoples which are not interested in development of this game like we have FIFA and few other games which are spreading drastically around the world with strong system and better ideas.

I feel the same way - but Pakistan and Afghanistan have a board and many people come to Pakistan - earlier during war and now again.
So there might be an option that Afghan team got it training from Pakistani player - but what Afghani did in the match with Paksitan is unacceptable.

[vennali]

Afghanistan players were raised and trained in Pakistan and PCB is not a big board like big 3. Why BCCI is not helping Nepal so that level of cricket there is raised and they start playing international cricket. Nepal is very much dependent on India. Anyways dont expect anything good from ICC for associate countries.

I am not agreed with you about this as Afghan players are trained and raised in Pakistan if you have any link then please send me because mostly they play in Sharjah UAE or India where they have a ground for playing test matches as home ground, and they were mostly stayed in these two countries before Taliban era in Afghanistan like the UAE and India just because of this please not spread fake news without any proof.

They play their first test match against India as well, and they have good base in India instead of Pakistan which is well known by all cricketing community I agree about these associates never expect any positive thing from ICC as they are benched of crap peoples which are not interested in development of this game like we have FIFA and few other games which are spreading drastically around the world with strong system and better ideas.

Yeah, I don't think there's any tie up between Afghanistan and Pakistan team. When it comes to training. They might train in the same country, UAE but I don't think the Afghans train in Pakistan. It's a possibility though, they could train in Pakistan as well as in India as, the talented players get selected for the premier leagues of each country and they train with those respective teams.

[SirLancelot]

I don't think there's any tie up between Afghanistan and Pakistan team. When it comes to training. They might train in the same country, UAE but I don't think the Afghans train in Pakistan. It's a possibility though, they could train in Pakistan as well as in India as, the talented players get selected for the premier leagues of each country and they train with those respective teams.

In last two decades Pakistan have no good relationship with Afghanistan just because of this their cricket relationship is better with India instead of Pakistan, and they are going into IPL as well which is good platform for them as their nearly half dozen players are having good contracts and good money from them which is helping them in positive way.

Few months back they hired Umer Gul as bowling coach and now have Jonathan Trot an English man as their head coach but still they need the good number of matches for better results against big teams which is going to help them, but main problem is still there they can't play at home which is surely a concern and important hopefully we will have them as good team in near future in all formats.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Yeah, I don't think there's any tie up between Afghanistan and Pakistan team. When it comes to training. They might train in the same country, UAE but I don't think the Afghans train in Pakistan. It's a possibility though, they could train in Pakistan as well as in India as, the talented players get selected for the premier leagues of each country and they train with those respective teams.

Majority of Afghan players were born, raised and trained in Pakistan. See profile of players like Mohammad Shahzad and Nabi they were part of domestic teams in Pakistan. India giving importance to Afghan players is just to gain political influence in Afghanistan. If India is that much interested in promoting cricket then they should have helped Nepal cricket.

[kotwica666]

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If what you say is true and your numbers are correct then ICC is not taking care of small accociate members. It is like 15-20x yearly budget for us small counties.

Tbh I have no idea the amount of associate nations are getting from the ICC right now but I agree they can't expect more because the last time I heard back in 2015 or so it was like a million or so, that's a fucking joke and criminal imo.

No wonder cricket is not spreading quickly as it is supposed to be.

Have anyone notices - Kholi has regained his strength?
Although India has not been able to make to finals but they have got their legend back - and the legend is the real legend.

We must admit that Virat Kohli is a world class player. However, his form was not going well for a few matches. But suddenly we see his brilliant innings which is no surprise. In fact, this is how good players return to their form. Although they did not make it to the final, his performance will play a role in the upcoming T20 World Cup.

[tbterryboy]

We must admit that Virat Kohli is a world class player. However, his form was not going well for a few matches. But suddenly we see his brilliant innings which is no surprise. In fact, this is how good players return to their form. Although they did not make it to the final, his performance will play a role in the upcoming T20 World Cup.

Right now, talking about Kohli form and his future is not right as he plays against teams like Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka which are not good enough in bowling if you want to talk about his future and performance then surely have to wait until T-20 World Cup where you can give better view about his performance when he will play against top quality bowlers on tricky conditions because here in Dubai things are not favourable for game which needs better environment which is available in SENA countries instead of here in subcontinent or UAE.

Some credit surely going into his favour as he back in bang which is good for Indian fans and cricket because we were looking for him in this way after three years he converts first his century which is also good.

[og kush420]

We must admit that Virat Kohli is a world class player. However, his form was not going well for a few matches. But suddenly we see his brilliant innings which is no surprise. In fact, this is how good players return to their form. Although they did not make it to the final, his performance will play a role in the upcoming T20 World Cup.

Right now, talking about Kohli form and his future is not right as he plays against teams like Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka which are not good enough in bowling if you want to talk about his future and performance then surely have to wait until T-20 World Cup where you can give better view about his performance when he will play against top quality bowlers on tricky conditions because here in Dubai things are not favourable for game which needs better environment which is available in SENA countries instead of here in subcontinent or UAE.

Some credit surely going into his favour as he back in bang which is good for Indian fans and cricket because we were looking for him in this way after three years he converts first his century which is also good.

Kholi went through tough time - but he came back a stronger person.
His last speech was very impressive in which he admired his wife Ansoka Sharam that she was always there for the support.
Another point he mentioned - that when he left test captainship only one of his colleague called him and he was MS Dhoni.
No matter how big star we are - we all need support of our family and friends. In the world full of glitter - all we need is to hold and look around - if someone need help

[fuguebtc]

We must admit that Virat Kohli is a world class player. However, his form was not going well for a few matches. But suddenly we see his brilliant innings which is no surprise. In fact, this is how good players return to their form. Although they did not make it to the final, his performance will play a role in the upcoming T20 World Cup.

Right now, talking about Kohli form and his future is not right as he plays against teams like Hong Kong, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka which are not good enough in bowling if you want to talk about his future and performance then surely have to wait until T-20 World Cup where you can give better view about his performance when he will play against top quality bowlers on tricky conditions because here in Dubai things are not favourable for game which needs better environment which is available in SENA countries instead of here in subcontinent or UAE.

Some credit surely going into his favour as he back in bang which is good for Indian fans and cricket because we were looking for him in this way after three years he converts first his century which is also good.

Virat Kohli has played well against two teams in the Asia Cup so far. If I recall correctly, he has played well against both teams. The two teams in question are Pakistan and Afghanistan. In addition to that, I think he also played well against Hong Kong, but I really do not want to consider that a good performance on his part. I believe that is a reasonable expectation from a player like Virat Kohli against a nation with which he is associated. Out of the matches that I have seen, I have only seen Him play well in two of the matches that I have seen. In spite of that, it did feel as if he was improving. As a result, I believe that he should be played more often in the future.

[Theones]

Virat Kohli has played well against two teams in the Asia Cup so far. If I recall correctly, he has played well against both teams. The two teams in question are Pakistan and Afghanistan. In addition to that, I think he also played well against Hong Kong, but I really do not want to consider that a good performance on his part. I believe that is a reasonable expectation from a player like Virat Kohli against a nation with which he is associated. Out of the matches that I have seen, I have only seen Him play well in two of the matches that I have seen. In spite of that, it did feel as if he was improving. As a result, I believe that he should be played more often in the future.

oh come on! let's not criticise him at this point he has already gone through alot
His come back is great and we must appreciate - he performed well and that is true -period

[romero121]

Have anyone notices - Kholi has regained his strength?
Although India has not been able to make to finals but they have got their legend back - and the legend is the real legend.

I never pick interest in this particular game but I noticed that it is one of the best and the strongest game so far if India have gotten their legend back I want to ask you if there is any time they have no legend that they are both tough or proud of from your statement I think that maybe they are lacking behind in this particular game so I have anything to say to say welcome back your legend

During every time period there arise someone who masters the game. Earlier Sachin Tendulkar had this position, because in every match viewers have a thinking that if Sachin is on the crease it'll be a win for India. This is not true all the time. Same as that now it is Virat Kohli and his performance and history is really far compared to more other legendary cricket players.

[Sithara007]

I was checking the ICC fund allocation for the cycle 2015-2023. They received $2.8 billion from TV rights and sponsorship (of which $2.0 billion was from TV rights and another $700 million from sponsorship). Out of this amount, $1.774 billion was distributed for member associations. I don't know where the remaining $1 billion went. It was eaten up by the corrupt administrators, it seems. Now we need to see how much "administrative expenses" they will allot for the next cycle (2024-27). ICC fund allocation immediately needs auditing. A lot of things doesn't look right.