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January 21, 2016, 12:53:40 AM
Last edit: January 21, 2016, 01:06:25 AM by Biodom
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It was me and it's not available at Amazon under that name anymore but the identical hub is named PAG now.  Do a search for pag usb hub on Amazon.  These are great and do run on the Pi using usb3.

Yes. I seen it mentioned some where (but couldn't remember by who) and gave it a shot.

Been working great, except for if you push it hard, it gets way to hot.

Been thinking of opening it up to see if I could cut some slots and maybe add a little 5V Pi case fan, to get some air flow inside the hub to help keep it cool.
It gets hot? What are you running them at? My 4 have been at 300 since the start.

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I pushed the hub to the 70W limit (probably a little over) for a short time, did 4 sticks at 340 when it got hot (with plenty of air from fans blowing over the case).

Settled on 4 at 310, seems to be a good mix with the hub just being a little warm to the touch. With some kind of air flow going to the inside of the hub or through it, it would probably do 4 sticks at about 320-325 and stay cool.

Good to know that you can do four at these numbers. I was about to adjust all sticks on two Superbpages (8=4 ea).
Four/s-pag are pretty stable: I run four at bfgminer at default and four at cgminer gekko at 200-all ~11GH (have an experimental one at 800mv/350 on Anker with Y-that one could do 425, but require too much of a cooling effort).
I was thinking of trying just three/superbpag on 350 since I have a 2A/slot usb 2.0 Plugable coming tomorrow, so i can relocate two there.
Will report if 3 sticks/S-pag at 350 work or not.
EDIT: why do you think that four sticks consumed more than 70W even at 340? That would be 17.5W/stick for only ~17-19Gh/s or so. Seems excessive.
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January 21, 2016, 01:20:57 AM
Last edit: January 21, 2016, 02:45:16 AM by vapourminer
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It gets hot? What are you running them at? My 4 have been at 300 since the start.

https://i.imgur.com/7lbaAyI.jpg

dude that is a SWEET setup. i have a rpi b what screen is that. is it a touch screen? please pm me with info as its kind  of off topic here

apologies if its here already, a fast search did not find it
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January 21, 2016, 02:53:39 AM
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Good to know that you can do four at these numbers. I was about to adjust all sticks on two Superbpages (8=4 ea).
Four/s-pag are pretty stable: I run four at bfgminer at default and four at cgminer gekko at 200-all ~11GH (have an experimental one at 800mv/350 on Anker with Y-that one could do 425, but require too much of a cooling effort).
I was thinking of trying just three/superbpag on 350 since I have a 2A/slot usb 2.0 Plugable coming tomorrow, so i can relocate two there.
Will report if 3 sticks/S-pag at 350 work or not.
EDIT: why do you think that four sticks consumed more than 70W even at 340? That would be 17.5W/stick for only ~17-19Gh/s or so. Seems excessive.

I've run 4@400 on the Spag - the hub gets rather warm but not uncomfortable physically (mentally that's another issue) and of course the heatsinks are hot but not burning with two usb fans from the 2.0 hub.  I'd think you can run 2x4@400 on 2 Spags so long as they're not stacked and have room for air..

When Run 2 comes in, and 812 is repaired, i'll be doing just that...

Now, as for 8@425.... cooling would DEFINITELY be an issue!
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January 21, 2016, 04:46:12 AM
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It was me and it's not available at Amazon under that name anymore but the identical hub is named PAG now.  Do a search for pag usb hub on Amazon.  These are great and do run on the Pi using usb3.

Yes. I seen it mentioned some where (but couldn't remember by who) and gave it a shot.

Been working great, except for if you push it hard, it gets way to hot.

Been thinking of opening it up to see if I could cut some slots and maybe add a little 5V Pi case fan, to get some air flow inside the hub to help keep it cool.
It gets hot? What are you running them at? My 4 have been at 300 since the start.

snipped image

I pushed the hub to the 70W limit (probably a little over) for a short time, did 4 sticks at 340 when it got hot (with plenty of air from fans blowing over the case).

Settled on 4 at 310, seems to be a good mix with the hub just being a little warm to the touch. With some kind of air flow going to the inside of the hub or through it, it would probably do 4 sticks at about 320-325 and stay cool.

Good to know that you can do four at these numbers. I was about to adjust all sticks on two Superbpages (8=4 ea).
Four/s-pag are pretty stable: I run four at bfgminer at default and four at cgminer gekko at 200-all ~11GH (have an experimental one at 800mv/350 on Anker with Y-that one could do 425, but require too much of a cooling effort).
I was thinking of trying just three/superbpag on 350 since I have a 2A/slot usb 2.0 Plugable coming tomorrow, so i can relocate two there.
Will report if 3 sticks/S-pag at 350 work or not.
EDIT: why do you think that four sticks consumed more than 70W even at 340? That would be 17.5W/stick for only ~17-19Gh/s or so. Seems excessive.

After I posted that, got to thinking, that was when I was moving sticks around trying a couple different setups and I might have had 6 plugged into it. It was getting kind of late and only ran it for ~1/2 hour or so, before I realized  Shocked I forgot to pull a couple before bumping the MHz up an the hub was good and hot.
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January 21, 2016, 03:21:10 PM
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Could anyone help me out please. I am on windows i have installed the winusb driver with zag as you can see here;
https://i.imgur.com/YPpAtQa.png

However when i run CGminer i just get errors that it does not have permission;

https://i.imgur.com/tUoUqrC.png
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January 21, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
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What usb hubs are you using to power these things? I have 8 of them but can't get more than 4 to work on a hub. I was using some cheapo one that couldn't power more than 2 at a time then I moved to a plugable 7 port usb 2.0 hub which is now working with 4 gekkos. They are running to a raspberry pi B which has the 4 producing around 45Gh/s. I'd love to have all 8 up and running and overclocked, but what hub is capable of that?

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January 21, 2016, 04:54:58 PM
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Hi all,

I am the next one asking for some help  Wink
I almost read all of the pages in this post but I am not able to get the Compac Miners from Bitshopper working as expected.

I am using this hub: http://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Charging-Adapter-Windows-H10C1-U3/dp/B00HSHN82K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453394936&sr=8-4&keywords=orico+10+port
with two miners in it.

I am also using bfgminer with compac support enabled.
The usb hub is running on my Linux box (standard desktop pc) because I am running an Bitcoin full node so there is no need for me to take one of my PI's for it Wink

Both sticks are just running fine with .674V and 125MHz. But then the speed is "just" 8.26GH/s per each miner. I tried almost everything (spinning the potentiometer with setting the MHz to almost everything between 125 and 300). I can get the sticks running very well with different configurations and about 16 to 17 GH/s average. But after 10 minutes the sticks stop working, no hardware error or something like this.
I even dont see any message using journalctl stating that the sticks are disconnected.

Does someone has a hint for me what I can try next to get more hash power out of these miners?

Thanks

Shelltux
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January 21, 2016, 05:28:20 PM
Last edit: January 21, 2016, 06:37:45 PM by Biodom
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Hi all,

I am the next one asking for some help  Wink
I almost read all of the pages in this post but I am not able to get the Compac Miners from Bitshopper working as expected.

I am using this hub: http://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Charging-Adapter-Windows-H10C1-U3/dp/B00HSHN82K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453394936&sr=8-4&keywords=orico+10+port
with two miners in it.

I am also using bfgminer with compac support enabled.
The usb hub is running on my Linux box (standard desktop pc) because I am running an Bitcoin full node so there is no need for me to take one of my PI's for it Wink

Both sticks are just running fine with .674V and 125MHz. But then the speed is "just" 8.26GH/s per each miner. I tried almost everything (spinning the potentiometer with setting the MHz to almost everything between 125 and 300). I can get the sticks running very well with different configurations and about 16 to 17 GH/s average. But after 10 minutes the sticks stop working, no hardware error or something like this.
I even dont see any message using journalctl stating that the sticks are disconnected.

Does someone has a hint for me what I can try next to get more hash power out of these miners?

Thanks

Shelltux

on that hub you are limited to 0.9A/slot, which is probably why it does not work at some settings that you tried. Solution-a different hub (Anker with up to 2A/slot works fine on Linux) or Y-cables (cheaper). Search Y-cables on this thread-there are dozens of posts. something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-3-0-Female-to-Dual-USB-Male-Extra-Power-Data-Y-Extension-Cable-Black-/151775405776

EDIT: nevermind re Anker-I forgot that it has regular slots also at 0.9A. the ones that have 2A/slot are Superbpag (some people say that it is called simply PAG now) and Plugable:
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Charging-Adapter-Support-Android/dp/B00L2LK164/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1453401003
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January 21, 2016, 05:29:39 PM
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Could anyone help me out please. I am on windows i have installed the winusb driver with zag as you can see here;


However when i run CGminer i just get errors that it does not have permission;



Is CGMiner being run as administrator?

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January 21, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
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Can someone please comment on my post on the previous page. Thanks.

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January 21, 2016, 05:36:42 PM
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What Biodom said.

Now, with the placement of the on/off switches, it looks like its splitting the power to three banks, so per bank you have 1.8a so I'd try putting one stick per button - this limits you to only 3 sticks.

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January 21, 2016, 05:39:30 PM
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Can someone please comment on my post on the previous page. Thanks.

Questioned Item:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORICO-DCP-48W-7-Port-Universal-USB-Charging-Station-Hub-with-7-x-2-4A-Charger-/191295371185?hash=item2c8a17b7b1:g:Mt8AAOSwqu9VMOm7

I don't see any USB 2.0 or 3.0 uplink port.  There is only the four pin round connector, which I'm thinking is for power!  This may have the word hub in it, but its not a hub, its only a charging station.  Has power, but doesn't connect to computers.

I'd wager a tuppence anyway.
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January 21, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
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Can someone please comment on my post on the previous page. Thanks.

Questioned Item:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORICO-DCP-48W-7-Port-Universal-USB-Charging-Station-Hub-with-7-x-2-4A-Charger-/191295371185?hash=item2c8a17b7b1:g:Mt8AAOSwqu9VMOm7

I don't see any USB 2.0 or 3.0 uplink port.  There is only the four pin round connector, which I'm thinking is for power!  This may have the word hub in it, but its not a hub, its only a charging station.  Has power, but doesn't connect to computers.

I'd wager a tuppence anyway.

And even with a Y cable to a conventional hub, as was proposed, my concern would be the actual voltage the charger would produce when presented with the Stick load as opposed to a battery?

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January 21, 2016, 05:48:29 PM
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Is CGMiner being run as administrator?

Yes tried admin and normal. Seems to make no difference Sad
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January 21, 2016, 06:16:25 PM
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Could anyone help me out please. I am on windows i have installed the winusb driver with zag as you can see here;


However when i run CGminer i just get errors that it does not have permission;



do you use the special cgminer (I think so) or the normal version ?

I think the normal version wouldn't even see it, but hey... I'm asking :p

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January 21, 2016, 06:20:33 PM
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Hi all,

I am the next one asking for some help  Wink
I almost read all of the pages in this post but I am not able to get the Compac Miners from Bitshopper working as expected.

I am using this hub: http://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Charging-Adapter-Windows-H10C1-U3/dp/B00HSHN82K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453394936&sr=8-4&keywords=orico+10+port
with two miners in it.

I am also using bfgminer with compac support enabled.
The usb hub is running on my Linux box (standard desktop pc) because I am running an Bitcoin full node so there is no need for me to take one of my PI's for it Wink

Both sticks are just running fine with .674V and 125MHz. But then the speed is "just" 8.26GH/s per each miner. I tried almost everything (spinning the potentiometer with setting the MHz to almost everything between 125 and 300). I can get the sticks running very well with different configurations and about 16 to 17 GH/s average. But after 10 minutes the sticks stop working, no hardware error or something like this.
I even dont see any message using journalctl stating that the sticks are disconnected.

Does someone has a hint for me what I can try next to get more hash power out of these miners?

Thanks

Shelltux

on that hub you are limited to 0.9A/slot, which is probably why it does not work at some settings that you tried. Solution-a different hub (Anker with up to 2A/slot works fine on Linux) or Y-cables (cheaper). Search Y-cables on this thread-there are dozens of posts. something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-3-0-Female-to-Dual-USB-Male-Extra-Power-Data-Y-Extension-Cable-Black-/151775405776

Thanks for your answer but I am not able to figure out how many Amp one slot gives me. Do you mean this Anker hub: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-10-Port-Transfer-PowerIQ-Charging/dp/B00VDVCQ84/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453400029&sr=8-1&keywords=Anker+60W+7-Port
With this one I am unsure how to interpret the information. They say that these IQ ports gives you max 2.1 amp power while the other ports giving .900 amps and in my opinion I cannot use the IQ ports for my miner because they transfer no data.
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January 21, 2016, 06:23:03 PM
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Can someone please comment on my post on the previous page. Thanks.

Questioned Item:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORICO-DCP-48W-7-Port-Universal-USB-Charging-Station-Hub-with-7-x-2-4A-Charger-/191295371185?hash=item2c8a17b7b1:g:Mt8AAOSwqu9VMOm7

I don't see any USB 2.0 or 3.0 uplink port.  There is only the four pin round connector, which I'm thinking is for power!  This may have the word hub in it, but its not a hub, its only a charging station.  Has power, but doesn't connect to computers.

I'd wager a tuppence anyway.

Yes it would just be used for power, with Y cables going into it for power and the other end (data) into a traditional hub.

Rich, any solutions for me as I can't get decent hubs in the UK :/

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January 21, 2016, 06:32:23 PM
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Yes it would just be used for power, with Y cables going into it for power and the other end (data) into a traditional hub.

Rich, any solutions for me as I can't get decent hubs in the UK :/

My simple solution, although I am only running 2 Stcks, is just to hack the Hub and connect up a decent 5V PSU directly to the Power connections.

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January 21, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
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do you use the special cgminer (I think so) or the normal version ?

I think the normal version wouldn't even see it, but hey... I'm asking :p

I am using the "Special" version from the first post is the one im using. I have tried it on multiple windows machines now running as admin and not admin (command prompt). And still getting the same issue Sad Any advice would be appreciated!
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Hi all,

I am the next one asking for some help  Wink
I almost read all of the pages in this post but I am not able to get the Compac Miners from Bitshopper working as expected.

I am using this hub: http://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Charging-Adapter-Windows-H10C1-U3/dp/B00HSHN82K/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453394936&sr=8-4&keywords=orico+10+port
with two miners in it.

I am also using bfgminer with compac support enabled.
The usb hub is running on my Linux box (standard desktop pc) because I am running an Bitcoin full node so there is no need for me to take one of my PI's for it Wink

Both sticks are just running fine with .674V and 125MHz. But then the speed is "just" 8.26GH/s per each miner. I tried almost everything (spinning the potentiometer with setting the MHz to almost everything between 125 and 300). I can get the sticks running very well with different configurations and about 16 to 17 GH/s average. But after 10 minutes the sticks stop working, no hardware error or something like this.
I even dont see any message using journalctl stating that the sticks are disconnected.

Does someone has a hint for me what I can try next to get more hash power out of these miners?

Thanks

Shelltux

on that hub you are limited to 0.9A/slot, which is probably why it does not work at some settings that you tried. Solution-a different hub (Anker with up to 2A/slot works fine on Linux) or Y-cables (cheaper). Search Y-cables on this thread-there are dozens of posts. something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-3-0-Female-to-Dual-USB-Male-Extra-Power-Data-Y-Extension-Cable-Black-/151775405776

Thanks for your answer but I am not able to figure out how many Amp one slot gives me. Do you mean this Anker hub: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-10-Port-Transfer-PowerIQ-Charging/dp/B00VDVCQ84/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453400029&sr=8-1&keywords=Anker+60W+7-Port
With this one I am unsure how to interpret the information. They say that these IQ ports gives you max 2.1 amp power while the other ports giving .900 amps and in my opinion I cannot use the IQ ports for my miner because they transfer no data.

nevermind anker-it also has 0.9, my mistake, I edited the original post. Plugable has the right slots (at least 1.5A), and everyone favorite-Superbpag, which is now either gone or changed to simply PAG, but I cannot find it easily, somehow.

Re OP on windows: too much hassle on windows. A lowly and cute rasp pi does the job or install linux (could work in a dual boot mode), like Ubuntu.
Absolutely no probs there as far as running is concerned.
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