[ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet

[molecular]

It's a bit confusing for the user, isn't it. I'd also be interested in why this is the case for me and not for dnaleor.

Yes, we realised that various QR code generators produce different results (even for the same settings). Actually I have not found 2 implementations that DO produce same results. It's a mess and we'll look into that later, but it's low priority at the moment.

That said I really doubt that codes for dnaleor do match.

thanks for the info.

I have a suggestion to change wording of myTrezor site: the text on the website reads "if the qr codes match, you can be confident..." or similar. How about changing it to "if the qr-codes decode to the same address.." or "if the addresses match.." to reduce the potential for confusion?

[Mashuri]

Moreover get a good QR reader that not only displays the payload bits but the signal/noise ratio for the decoded result.

Do you have any suggestions for Android?

[ElGabo]

Both my Trezors shows connected on the main page but don't load the account balance.

Could somebody give me an idea what is the problem? 

[freebit13]

Both my Trezors shows connected on the main page but don't load the account balance.

Could somebody give me an idea what is the problem? 

If you're using a passphrase and you enter it incorrectly, it will create a new account with zero balance. Make sure you enter the correct passphrase to access the accounts already created.

[stick]

Both my Trezors shows connected on the main page but don't load the account balance.

Could somebody give me an idea what is the problem? 

Please contact our support. Email link is in the upper-left corner of myTREZOR wallet.

[Mickeyb]

Last 2 days I am constantly getting USB device not recognized on my trezor. Anybody knows why?

Thanks

[Mickeyb]

Last 2 days I am constantly getting USB device not recognized on my trezor. Anybody knows why?

Thanks

Nevermind, problem was a usb cable! It works now!

[grendel25]

I'm still trying to understand the Trezor.  My main conflict is with the price.  And then I'm also not sure of what it actually is.  This thread indicates a hardware wallet but then in other description it's called a "safe". 

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe.  I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic.  So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks. 

So look, it's an awesome gadget.  Security is a big deal with bitcoin.  But am I just looking at the wrong thing?   Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite?  The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security.  Good luck.  No offense intended here.  Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure.  Thanks

[klokan]

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe.  I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic.  So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks.  

So look, it's an awesome gadget.  Security is a big deal with bitcoin.  But am I just looking at the wrong thing?   Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite?  The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security.  Good luck.  No offense intended here.  Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure.  Thanks

This is a Bitcoin wallet and a "digital Bitcoin safe". When considering a real world, it's like a wallet. You can wear it in your pocket, it does not weight 100pounds or kilos. But in digital world, when connected to a computer, it should be as difficult to get inside as if it was a safe. Weight does not matter anymore, other things do...

Considering price, you might have heard that there are now Chinese who are selling a clone for 28$: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ti75t/only_28_to_buy_a_trezorlike_hardware_wallt/ Please note that Chinese cannot spell wallet in the reddit link so be cautious about buying one (especially when you don't speak or read Chinese).
The Satoshi Labs themselves declare the hardware cost as 19$ on the shipping package customs declaration and the remaining 100$ to be the software cost. Considering couple of people spend two years on development of the device and they sold "several thousands" of devices http://satoshilabs.com/news/2015-01-15-trezor-in-2014/ it seems to me that if several were 10 then this would be still way less then community spend here: http://fortune.com/2015/01/20/coinbase-raises-75-million-in-largest-ever-vc-round-for-bitcoin-company/ but Trezor being a much more important community effort since the security is the only thing preventing mass adoption.

Anyway, price will go down over the time. Maybe soon because of clones.

[Erdogan]

I'm still trying to understand the Trezor.  My main conflict is with the price.  And then I'm also not sure of what it actually is.  This thread indicates a hardware wallet but then in other description it's called a "safe". 

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe.  I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic.  So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks. 

So look, it's an awesome gadget.  Security is a big deal with bitcoin.  But am I just looking at the wrong thing?   Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite?  The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security.  Good luck.  No offense intended here.  Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure.  Thanks

The price of the Trezor is the market price, luckily for you and everybody else, because that ensures that everyone can have one, if they want it sufficiently much.

The trezor team has made the best hardware wallet, the safest and easiest to use in a safe manner.

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

Your choice is easy, either use a software wallet that is capable of having offline keys and use a separate PC to run the offline part, fumbling with copying the transactions to and fro with a memory stick, or buy the trezor at the price it is offered for.

[2112]

Do you have any suggestions for Android?

Sorry, I'm long out this market segment. I handed the project I was involved to the production people long time ago. I'd used commercial/for-pay software and hardware that I don't think is relevant anymore.

Two suggestions:

1) look not for "QR code reader" but for "image processing library/toolbox/toolkit".
2) if you use an open-source (or paid for closed-source) then getting the required FEC/payload ratio and S/N ratio is a quite simple modification. Few lines of code at the maximum. In my experience the difficult part is to understand the underlying concepts of forward-error-correction and channel noise and how they are used properly or misused (nefariously or due to lack of understanding).

[JorgeStolfi]

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

[grendel25]

I'm still trying to understand the Trezor.  My main conflict is with the price.  And then I'm also not sure of what it actually is.  This thread indicates a hardware wallet but then in other description it's called a "safe". 

So back to the price thing, I expect to pay upwards of $100 for a safe.  I also expect a safe to weigh several hundreds of pounds... but that's another topic.  So for a "wallet" I've never even bought one and if I did I don't think i'd pay more than 10-20 bucks. 

So look, it's an awesome gadget.  Security is a big deal with bitcoin.  But am I just looking at the wrong thing?   Is there a cost effective security solution for the average user?

Is there going to be a Trezor-lite?  The Trezor looks really awesome and I'm glad to see it pioneering bitcoin security.  Good luck.  No offense intended here.  Just trying to understand more options for making bitcoin easier to use and secure.  Thanks

The price of the Trezor is the market price, luckily for you and everybody else, because that ensures that everyone can have one, if they want it sufficiently much.

The trezor team has made the best hardware wallet, the safest and easiest to use in a safe manner.

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

Your choice is easy, either use a software wallet that is capable of having offline keys and use a separate PC to run the offline part, fumbling with copying the transactions to and fro with a memory stick, or buy the trezor at the price it is offered for.

Yeah, I just don't think folks are seeing the big picture of mass adoption.  Just needs to be perceived more in relative terms and I'm hopeful that someone will understand that.  Maybe even the Trezor brand.

[molecular]

They took great risk in building it and make both hardware and software open source. A competitor can create a clone very easily now, the only thing they don't have is the name and reputation.

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

Link Please.

 (Sorry to feed the troll)

[cbeast]

Trezor should make a deal with Coinbase for a security key and hardware wallet that can be discounted for Coinbase verified customers.

[JorgeStolfi]

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

Link Please.
(Sorry to feed the troll)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t8ppe/now_you_can_buy_a_trezorlike_hardware_wallet_in/
You are welcome.

[molecular]

There is already a Chinese clone that copied everything verbatim, including their USB vendor code (which is said to make the product a counterfeit merchandise).

Link Please.
(Sorry to feed the troll)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t8ppe/now_you_can_buy_a_trezorlike_hardware_wallet_in/
You are welcome.

Thanks.

They used a lot of trezor code, yes. That's totally legitimate afaict. Hardly would call that a counterfeit, especially because the casing looks hardly like the trezor.

Yes, reusing the vendor code is maybe not the best behaviour (and likely against some rules), but it doesn't constitute counterfeiting imo.

[JorgeStolfi]

Yes, reusing the vendor code is maybe not the best behaviour (and likely against some rules), but it doesn't constitute counterfeiting imo.

It is obviously not intentional counterfeiting, but the comments on that reddit thread seemed to imply that it would be such in the eyes of the US or European law.  If so, that might cause problems with customs, maybe.  I don t know.

[windpath]

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[camolist]

i had a trezor for a few weeks before the provided lanyard broke off at the plastic lip on the trezor

no idea where it ended up.. retraced my steps for the few hours before it went missing but it was no where to be found

talked to support and was basically told tough luck buy another one (i have the backup key but it seems having another trezor is the only way to recover coins from the seed)


seems like a factory defect if the provided lanyard breaks just having it on a ring with a vehicle and house key


if it is not meant to be used as a lanyard that clip on the trezor and the lanyard should not be provided or it should be admitted that this was a defect


wish i had bought it on amazon not bitcoin as my bank would easily side with me on a refund or replacement