[$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][TOR/i2P][no premine/ico!]

[Dogedarkdev]

Do we not want to include Sha 256 now? Do we include them later?

I would vote for this option were it available:

Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17


I'm including Prime but i don't really understand it as well as the others. I know it hunts for special Cunningham chains but i don't really know how it works in mining or if it is more efficient or secure for us. If you guys think its essential ill vote for it but right now its the only one im not clear on yet everyone loves it.

But i would vote for what i mentioned above: Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17 (three asic friendly algos and three people friendly algos).

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The goal is to secure the network and get this tech in the hands of as many people as possible and proliferate Verge.

The social importance of what is happening here right now, maybe only the bitcoin community is aware of, but right now, whats happening here is huge for humanity.

Let our choice in algos reflect that.

yeah i agree, however, i think its best to stay away from sha256, only because how many farms use it.. if a sha256 farm pointed at us, it could hog our chain all over again.

[myriadcoin]

Do we not want to include Sha 256 now? Do we include them later?

I would vote for this option were it available:

Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17


I'm including Prime but i don't really understand it as well as the others. I know it hunts for special Cunningham chains but i don't really know how it works in mining or if it is more efficient or secure for us. If you guys think its essential ill vote for it but right now its the only one im not clear on yet everyone loves it.

But i would vote for what i mentioned above: Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17 (three asic friendly algos and three people friendly algos).

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The goal is to secure the network and get this tech in the hands of as many people as possible and proliferate Verge.

The social importance of what is happening here right now, maybe only the bitcoin community is aware of, but right now, whats happening here is huge for humanity.

Let our choice in algos reflect that.

yeah i agree, however, i think its best to stay away from sha256, only because how many farms use it.. if a sha256 farm pointed at us, it could hog our chain all over again.

I'm not a sha256d miner so I have no vested interested. I understand what you're saying, but I think this is an eventual risk for all algos, and that since sha256d is already going through it, it'll be the first to come out the other end. Eventually the improvements to sha256d ASICs over time will slow down. At that point, the profits from selling ASICs will start to catch up to the profits from mining them. Then you will see the Bitcoin network become more decentralised. That's why I consider sha256d to be an obvious choice— it's the most mature.

The whole point of multi-algo is that it mitigates the amount that the sha256d farms can hog the chain.

I'm liking the direction this discussion is going.

[bitLeap]

Do we not want to include Sha 256 now? Do we include them later?

I would vote for this option were it available:

Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17


I'm including Prime but i don't really understand it as well as the others. I know it hunts for special Cunningham chains but i don't really know how it works in mining or if it is more efficient or secure for us. If you guys think its essential ill vote for it but right now its the only one im not clear on yet everyone loves it.

But i would vote for what i mentioned above: Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17 (three asic friendly algos and three people friendly algos).

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The goal is to secure the network and get this tech in the hands of as many people as possible and proliferate Verge.

The social importance of what is happening here right now, maybe only the bitcoin community is aware of, but right now, whats happening here is huge for humanity.

Let our choice in algos reflect that.

Wow I think there's way too many big farms algos there the whole point is to decentralize mining.

Btw dev I hope the Prime Verge adds is Prime Constellations just like in Riecoin it's much more meaningful and very user friendly for decentralized mining.

[Rabid Parrots]

So, when we go multi algo, if we are struck again by the Hashinator, would the beefed up GPU/CPU miners on the Blake or x11 algos contribute to mining the same block or are they all completely separate somehow?

I know nothing about this stuff.

[myriadcoin]

So, when we go multi algo, if we are struck again by the Hashinator, would the beefed up GPU/CPU miners on the Blake or x11 algos contribute to mining the same block or are they all completely separate somehow?

I know nothing about this stuff.

All algorithms compete to find the next block. If the difficulty of one algorithm is too high, then another algorithm will probably find the next block. So basically, if scrypt gets struck by Hashinator, the GPU/CPU algorithms will find the next blocks until the scrypt difficulty readjusts.

[TheSignsGuy]

Just a little reminder of how importance diligence can be in regard to security and privacy.

Looks like they are trying to sneak it in.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-as-a-recommended-update/

[Dogedarkdev]

Just a little reminder of how importance diligence can be in regard to security and privacy.

Looks like they are trying to sneak it in.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-as-a-recommended-update/

yeah they've been pushing telemetry into windows 8. funny part is people think that you can disable it in the windows 10 upgrade still, not realizing that 0 is the same value as 1 unless, you've purchased it. (enterprise edition)

[p75formula]

Just a little reminder of how importance diligence can be in regard to security and privacy.

Looks like they are trying to sneak it in.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-as-a-recommended-update/

I used to often say FU Apple but more recently I find myself uttering FU windows. Don't like having how I use my pc dictated to me.

[Rabid Parrots]

Just a little reminder of how importance diligence can be in regard to security and privacy.

Looks like they are trying to sneak it in.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-as-a-recommended-update/

I used to often say FU Apple but more recently I find myself uttering FU windows. Don't like having how I use my pc dictated to me.

Don't worry, guys. Pretty soon, a new coin will come along that is an entire DECENTRALIZED operating system using the BLOCKCHAIN to <indecipherable technical jargon> and <buzzwords> your computer. Don't worry about that 75% premine. That's for bounties.

[A_McGriff]

Do we not want to include Sha 256 now? Do we include them later?

I would vote for this option were it available:

Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17


I'm including Prime but i don't really understand it as well as the others. I know it hunts for special Cunningham chains but i don't really know how it works in mining or if it is more efficient or secure for us. If you guys think its essential ill vote for it but right now its the only one im not clear on yet everyone loves it.

But i would vote for what i mentioned above: Scrypt, x11, Sha256, prime, neoscrypt, x17 (three asic friendly algos and three people friendly algos).

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The goal is to secure the network and get this tech in the hands of as many people as possible and proliferate Verge.

The social importance of what is happening here right now, maybe only the bitcoin community is aware of, but right now, whats happening here is huge for humanity.

Let our choice in algos reflect that.

yeah i agree, however, i think its best to stay away from sha256, only because how many farms use it.. if a sha256 farm pointed at us, it could hog our chain all over again.

Ok cool, thats what i wanted to know, scratch sha256  

[fosco333]

those voting 'wait, lets add more options...' should say they voted on that and post which algos they wanted otherwise it's pointless doesn't add to the discussion.

[CryptocurrencyNetwork]

So, when we go multi algo, if we are struck again by the Hashinator, would the beefed up GPU/CPU miners on the Blake or x11 algos contribute to mining the same block or are they all completely separate somehow?

I know nothing about this stuff.

All algorithms compete to find the next block. If the difficulty of one algorithm is too high, then another algorithm will probably find the next block. So basically, if scrypt gets struck by Hashinator, the GPU/CPU algorithms will find the next blocks until the scrypt difficulty readjusts.

The hashinator, lmao - I like it

[Dogedarkdev]

im very excited to figure out which algos we want this week. im sure we wont please EVERYONE, but i'd like to try n get at least a 90% approval.

in advance, if your preference wasn't chosen, i do apologize, and none of the algos that we DONT choose, will be completely discarded, and we will consider them in future updates.

i will probably add some more options tomorrow and tuesday, and reset votes, and what we get by thursday or friday is what we will stick with.

ive already added a few new things to our source code, like a couple rpc commands, so then next wallet release will have some more options as well..

hang tight guys  

edit: poll edited/reset

[Beachguy]

Sounds great! Just keep scrypt.... 

[jwinterm]

im very excited to figure out which algos we want this week. im sure we wont please EVERYONE, but i'd like to try n get at least a 90% approval.

in advance, if your preference wasn't chosen, i do apologize, and none of the algos that we DONT choose, will be completely discarded, and we will consider them in future updates.

i will probably add some more options tomorrow and tuesday, and reset votes, and what we get by thursday or friday is what we will stick with.

ive already added a few new things to our source code, like a couple rpc commands, so then next wallet release will have some more options as well..

hang tight guys  

edit: poll edited/reset

Just curious why you're so anti-Sha256, re this poll option:

i dont care, as long as there's no sha256

You don't bestow that honor on any other algo, asic mined or not.

[giantkin]

Just a little reminder of how importance diligence can be in regard to security and privacy.

Looks like they are trying to sneak it in.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-as-a-recommended-update/

Thats kinda old news.   win10 came out they started trying to push it for free. 

that just means now in the auto update for winupdate its going to be there, ready for you to hit ok.

I did it on one computer at work.   i actually like it.   i hated win8.x   
Im on a desktop.   had to disable the metro like setup. (tablet style crap)

but after that, its not bad so far.   feels very similar...  alot faster than w8 and similar smoothness as win7.

oh and less of a resource hog.
Tho, you MUST turn off their privacy invasion crap. 
Disable, uncheck...and so forth.

g

[p75formula]

The only issue I have is, how many of us can honestly way we are making an informed decision here? I personally have only ever mined SHA, Scrypt, Prime and X11.

there's people voting, and I'm not excluding myself, that don't know the pro or cons of some of the algos we are voting on.

I will say this, I feel like I know much better now than I did going into this, but ultimately, I have to defer to those that clearly know more than I do about which would be best.

[giantkin]

ive only mined :
Scrypt, blake (early?)  sha256, and scrypt-n

Dont really know the rest at all

i used:
GPU (scrypt n, and blake)  off now. stripped most of the parts.
Scrypt: Falcon asic 27m
S5 antminer: sha256

i only have the 2 units running now.

So my knowledge is def limited to those.

cgminer mostly.
Tried a variety of setups trying to get my raspberry pi's to work as miners. all failed.
they would work for a day or 2 and then the pools would magically reset to the mining software creators default pool.......
im not into that, wiping out my default pool and putting your own in, really pissed me off.

g

[layer1gfx]

i would like to see groestl algo implemented. just because it is rare and energy efficient. haven't been here for a while exited to see where ex-DOGED is heading...

[andronick83]

https://www.mastermining.net/verge/index.php?page=statistics

Code:

Current Block 284195
Current Difficulty 791.86825076

https://xvg.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics

Code:

Current Block 289799
Current Difficulty 0.24900546

https://www.blockexperts.com/xvg

Code:

Current Block 290285
Difficulty 299.50299914

xvg is crazy