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[coinlocket$]

Was almost done for Vettel to Aston Martin (aka Racing Poing aka the pink Mercedes) instead of Perez but Perez brings a lot of money to the team with his sponsors and now the deal may not happen.
Keep also in mind Perez after this year will have 2 more years in his contract.

Also the Party Mode of the engine will may delay by 1 week from Belgium to Monza.,

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[Koal-84]

Red Bull needs to find a better driver than Albon. Being lapped by your teammate in the same car.

Albon isn't performing particularly well. But he is also to an extent made to look bad because Verstappen is really performing extremely well in a car that is nowhere near the quality of the Mercedes.
I would suspect that most drivers would look poor if they have Verstappen as a team-mate. Similar to how Bottas doesn't look great, because we can only compare him against Hamilton.

You got me wrong.
I am not comparing Albon with Max, but Albon with Gasly. Last season we saw that Redbull switched those two drivers and Albon was way better than Gasly , it was like they made the correct decision.
However, this season Albon is not any better than Gasly and I think that he do not deserve to be the second driver in RBR.

I think the same, that Albon, Gasly and Kwjat have the same Level, good but not at the Level than Max.

Was almost done for Vettel to Aston Martin (aka Racing Poing aka the pink Mercedes) instead of Perez but Perez brings a lot of money to the team with his sponsors and now the deal may not happen.
Keep also in mind Perez after this year will have 2 more years in his contract.

Also the Party Mode of the engine will may delay by 1 week from Belgium to Monza.,

I've heard rumors that Stroll's own son has to give way because of Vettel?

Totto Wolf think, that the "Party mod" ban can make Mercedes faster at race? I think the more power from Mercedes is enought to win also without Party mod.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-engine-mode-ban-wolff/4860037/

[dre1982]

Was almost done for Vettel to Aston Martin (aka Racing Poing aka the pink Mercedes) instead of Perez but Perez brings a lot of money to the team with his sponsors and now the deal may not happen.
Keep also in mind Perez after this year will have 2 more years in his contract.

Also the Party Mode of the engine will may delay by 1 week from Belgium to Monza.,

Where did you found that info about the party mode. Haven't read it anywhere else yet.

[Koal-84]

Was almost done for Vettel to Aston Martin (aka Racing Poing aka the pink Mercedes) instead of Perez but Perez brings a lot of money to the team with his sponsors and now the deal may not happen.
Keep also in mind Perez after this year will have 2 more years in his contract.

Also the Party Mode of the engine will may delay by 1 week from Belgium to Monza.,

Where did you found that info about the party mode. Haven't read it anywhere else yet.

Herr you can read about the van of the "Party" mod.

F1 engine mode restriction postponed until Italian GP

Also the tradition team Williams are sold to private investment firm.

Williams F1 team sold to private investment firm

Tomorrow for the second MotoGP Rave at austria the qualifying, Yamaha, Ducati or KTM 🤔?

Results from FP2

Styria MotoGP: Espargaro sets FP2 pace for KTM

[dre1982]

Was almost done for Vettel to Aston Martin (aka Racing Poing aka the pink Mercedes) instead of Perez but Perez brings a lot of money to the team with his sponsors and now the deal may not happen.
Keep also in mind Perez after this year will have 2 more years in his contract.

Also the Party Mode of the engine will may delay by 1 week from Belgium to Monza.,

Where did you found that info about the party mode. Haven't read it anywhere else yet.

Herr you can read about the van of the "Party" mod.

F1 engine mode restriction postponed until Italian GP

Also the tradition team Williams are sold to private investment firm.

Williams F1 team sold to private investment firm

Tomorrow for the second MotoGP Rave at austria the qualifying, Yamaha, Ducati or KTM 🤔?

Results from FP2

Styria MotoGP: Espargaro sets FP2 pace for KTM

Thanks. The news also came along on gpupdate which I use for the f1 news.

[coinlocket$]

Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.

Yeah about the party mode, guess what Mercedes and Honda cried about it (the 2 motors with the biggest gain) and they delayed by 1 GP.

[Koal-84]

Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.

Yeah about the party mode, guess what Mercedes and Honda cried about it (the 2 motors with the biggest gain) and they delayed by 1 GP.

Yes the F1 it is becoming more and more commercial and there is simply no space or simply too little money for individualists.

For Honda i think it's not the big Problem, the engine is good and have power but for a LEDs time Honda have not so many extra power than Mercedes, so it's possible that Mercedes not so dominant at the Qualifying.

[swogerino]

Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.

Yeah about the party mode, guess what Mercedes and Honda cried about it (the 2 motors with the biggest gain) and they delayed by 1 GP.

They still said in the official announcement that the headquarters will be in UK where they are and they will continue to race under the same name Williams.I agree partly with this decision as Williams was struggling from quite some time now and no green light was seen in their latest developments of the few last years so probably they got really bored to get this decision which of course sadness us all.

[Juggy777]

Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.

Yeah about the party mode, guess what Mercedes and Honda cried about it (the 2 motors with the biggest gain) and they delayed by 1 GP.

They still said in the official announcement that the headquarters will be in UK where they are and they will continue to race under the same name Williams.I agree partly with this decision as Williams was struggling from quite some time now and no green light was seen in their latest developments of the few last years so probably they got really bored to get this decision which of course sadness us all.

@coinlocket$ this is good news for the sport because with new owners in place Williams will finally become competitive, and more competition is always welcome in this sport. @swogerino yea you’re right but at the end of the day I’m really happy to see new owners in place, because they’ll splash cash and make Williams great again.

[Koal-84]

That's what i love about motoGP, this weekend a other driver and manufacture can win or stand at Polposition.



The first 9 driver between 0.3 sec 👌, should Formula1 also think about "concession points"??

[swogerino]

That's what i love about motoGP, Dach weekend a other driver and manufacture can win or stand at Polposition.



The first 9 driver between 0.3 sec 👌, should Formula1 also think about "concession points"??

This is because in MotoGP the skills of the riders are more emphasized than the skills of F1 drivers.This is the main difference and that is why MotoGP is better to watch on TV as there is a lot of overtaking usually in MotoGP and partly I believe this is because also the tiredness can be feel more for the rider during a MotoGP race than a F1 driver which is seated in the vehicle and enjoys the race.In MotoGP also the danger is way bigger and also the adrenaline.

[coinlocket$]

I never have seen a thing like this, Viniales broken is break and his moto has smashed into the wall at 200 kph!

The driver jumped over the moto avoiding the wall, red flag, and restart of the race. The driver is ok.

Astonishing.




Source pic: https://twitter.com/Libero_official/status/1297513010961973249

[AakZaki]

Congratulations Miguel Oliveira winning the MotoGP Styria, he is also entitled to bring home a luxury BMW type M4 2021. I think Oliveira was lucky at the last lap, in last corner Miller and Espargaro were slightly wide and out of the track while fighting. Oliveira came on the inside and finished first, Miller and Espargaro in second and third. This result is not far from my prediction that Ducati, KTM which has great power on the straight track will dominate the race this time.

[LTU_btc]

Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.

Yeah about the party mode, guess what Mercedes and Honda cried about it (the 2 motors with the biggest gain) and they delayed by 1 GP.

They still said in the official announcement that the headquarters will be in UK where they are and they will continue to race under the same name Williams.I agree partly with this decision as Williams was struggling from quite some time now and no green light was seen in their latest developments of the few last years so probably they got really bored to get this decision which of course sadness us all.

Under Williams family management this team were going only backwards in recent years and their future weren't bright. It's good that new owners aren't planning to change team name - it has big historic value. Though, it doesn't means that they aren't going to change it after few years.

[Naida_BR]

Williams F1 has been sold... The end of an ERA.

The end of an era is a start for a new one.
I think that it is good that Williams is sold, they didn't have a lot of money to invest in their cars.
I hope that the new administration is going to give fund for the R&D team in order to develop a faster car.

[swogerino]

Congratulations Miguel Oliveira winning the MotoGP Styria, he is also entitled to bring home a luxury BMW type M4 2021. I think Oliveira was lucky at the last lap, in last corner Miller and Espargaro were slightly wide and out of the track while fighting. Oliveira came on the inside and finished first, Miller and Espargaro in second and third. This result is not far from my prediction that Ducati, KTM which has great power on the straight track will dominate the race this time.

This is often the panorama in many MotoGP races and the winner is often found on the last lap,of course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.

[Koal-84]

That's what i love about motoGP, Dach weekend a other driver and manufacture can win or stand at Polposition.

The first 9 driver between 0.3 sec 👌, should Formula1 also think about "concession points"??

This is because in MotoGP the skills of the riders are more emphasized than the skills of F1 drivers.This is the main difference and that is why MotoGP is better to watch on TV as there is a lot of overtaking usually in MotoGP and partly I believe this is because also the tiredness can be feel more for the rider during a MotoGP race than a F1 driver which is seated in the vehicle and enjoys the race.In MotoGP also the danger is way bigger and also the adrenaline.

Why you think only the skill from the driver? I think the skill from the driver at Formula1 is also very equal but the different between the tams is sooo big, at MotoGP the concession points help the worse teams.

Congratulations Miguel Oliveira winning the MotoGP Styria, he is also entitled to bring home a luxury BMW type M4 2021. I think Oliveira was lucky at the last lap, in last corner Miller and Espargaro were slightly wide and out of the track while fighting. Oliveira came on the inside and finished first, Miller and Espargaro in second and third. This result is not far from my prediction that Ducati, KTM which has great power on the straight track will dominate the race this time.

Yes very exiting race the drivers are fight like Moto3. Very sorry for Mir, the are the best driver befor the restart. But very lucky from Olivera and good that no driver hurt.

Congratulations Miguel Oliveira winning the MotoGP Styria, he is also entitled to bring home a luxury BMW type M4 2021. I think Oliveira was lucky at the last lap, in last corner Miller and Espargaro were slightly wide and out of the track while fighting. Oliveira came on the inside and finished first, Miller and Espargaro in second and third. This result is not far from my prediction that Ducati, KTM which has great power on the straight track will dominate the race this time.

This is often the panorama in many MotoGP races and the winner is often found on the last lap,of course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.

For all not #93 fans are the best session the last years.

[coinlocket$]

They added more races at the F1 Championship



Source: https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1298214030692306947

Since they will race till December they will go in the Southern hemisphere when it will be summer there.

[AakZaki]

~snip~ course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.

I think it's a lot different from F1, they have Pit Stop to add fuel, change tires, MotoGP there is no PitStop Entry for Normal races. If you support champion Marquez it will be boring because he is still injured and not participating. This race is quite exciting, in my opinion, there is an exciting duel, Rossi in fourteen can finish in ninth position, Miguel Oliveira from seventh can be Champion. Nakagami also slipped from number two to number seven.
Oh yes, the following standings for MotoGP arrive at the Styria GP. Marquez number fifteen, can he still win this year?

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics

[Koal-84]

They added more races at the F1 Championship



Source: https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1298214030692306947

Since they will race till December they will go in the Southern hemisphere when it will be summer there.

Thank you, looks good with a few more races this years, but it will not change the Mercedes dominante.

~snip~ course when no Honda or Marc Marquez domination is happening as when it is happening is the same with F1 and Mercedes a boring race.As long as MotoGP continues like this is better than F1 from a racing fan perspective.

I think it's a lot different from F1, they have Pit Stop to add fuel, change tires, MotoGP there is no PitStop Entry for Normal races. If you support champion Marquez it will be boring because he is still injured and not participating. This race is quite exciting, in my opinion, there is an exciting duel, Rossi in fourteen can finish in ninth position, Miguel Oliveira from seventh can be Champion. Nakagami also slipped from number two to number seven.
Oh yes, the following standings for MotoGP arrive at the Styria GP. Marquez number fifteen, can he still win this year?

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics

That's correct that MotoGP have no tyre change but for what? The dorna sees through the regulations that the teams are together, and weaker teams have certain advantages. And i think to #10 all drivers cannwin the championship.