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I think a lot of the inconsistencies arise from normal daily operations. Things change, I'm not sure it can get any simpler.
When you are trying to build a business, product, whatever of significant magnitude, it's like trying to fly a plane while you are putting it together. When shit happens, you change the plan while you are still flying.
I experience this everyday. Unless you have a reality distortion field like Apple (which their's has even started to falter a bit, aka Apple maps...) things NEVER GO AS PLANNED.
What's that saying "the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray". You try to plan for the unknown unknowns, but something almost always comes up that takes your plans and throws them out the window.
I'm sure this post will bring out the "gigavps is a BFL shill" but this is the reality of things when you are building a business.
To be fair, Apple never had a RDF. Steve Jobs did. RIP Steve Jobs.
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December 24, 2012, 07:00:13 PM |
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To be fair, Apple never had a RDF. Steve Jobs did. RIP Steve Jobs.
Agreed.
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December 24, 2012, 08:29:37 PM |
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Certainly understandable, but it doesn't explain the complete lack of explanations. If you are simply trying to build a business then you protect your reputation, because it's good business. In this case it would cost BFL nothing additional to employ a COO/PR frontman with the ability to act with some semblance of professionalism, yet they fail to do so. It would also cost BFL nothing to explain the inconsistencies with their public statements, instead the same poor performing company officer liberally dispenses insults to those that inquire. I think we can all agree this is bad business policy if you intend to continue operations going forward. You keep saying this, but as per your usual mode of operations you are just pulling "facts" out of your ass. This is why I call you an idiot. You do not know the first thing about BFLs financials or how we work, yet you keep making these grand pronouncements as if you do. I would ask you to stop, but you and both know you're incapable of telling the truth in your posts. Nearly everything you post, at least with regards to BFL is a lie one way or another and this is just another example of your inability to separate your little fantasy world in your head (the way you wish things were) with the way things actually are. You whine and cry about how mean I am to you and how it's hurting BFL's business... but guess what, you are wrong. Most people here think you're an idiot and every time I make a post pointing out how stupid you are, our sales jump. Yes, I'm serious about this... I already pointed it out to you in the previous thread(s) that I only post on here when things slow down sales wise. The more you post your stupidity, the more ammunition you give me to refute your lies and BS. If you stopped posting lies, I would have nothing to post... but yet you are (apparently) incapable of refraining from posting false information about BFL. So I thank you for that. You complain about my lack of professionalism. Sir, I ask you why you think you deserve professionalism? You have done nothing but attack me and BFL from the start. You have done nothing but post false information and blatant lies time after time. Tell me, why do you think you deserve ANY respect what so ever? You are a troll, plain and simple. You deserve nothing but contempt and disdain. Just as a side note for all the dumbasses that seem fixated on 1200 sq ft. WTF? Where does this logic even come from? Why would we rent only 1200 sq feet of warehouse space? How does that even make any sense? This is why I call some people idiots. You start spouting this nonsense like it makes perfect sense and then run with it. It's seriously the Special Olympics here half the time. ZOMG! They rented 1200 sq feet of space, it must mean they can't manufacture anything! Never mind that other 4800 sq feet that's mentioned, we'll conveniently ignore that because you can't possibly rearrange the inside of a building to suit your needs, because that's IMPOSSIBLE!!!!1!!!1 ZOMG BFL IS LYING!~!!! There is no way a website can be inaccurate! Everything posted on the internet is true! OMG!!!!!!!!1! BFL IS LYING!!!1!!!! OMG!!!!
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December 24, 2012, 08:45:33 PM |
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You keep saying this, but as per your usual mode of operations you are just pulling "facts" out of your ass.
THEN CORRECT HIM WITH YOUR OWN FACTS. This is why people laugh at you to your face, you just go around saying people are wrong without offering opposing view points.
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December 24, 2012, 08:50:49 PM |
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This is why people laugh at you to your face, you just go around saying people are wrong without offering opposing view points.
It's pretty easy on the internet. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) That video is the best thing to ever come to this thread. It seems ever thread like this has one of those. Anyone remember this? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbitcointrading.com%2Fimg%2Fscammerthread.jpg&t=665&c=V0Lcy2ZltqSOOg)
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December 24, 2012, 08:56:09 PM |
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Certainly understandable, but it doesn't explain the complete lack of explanations. If you are simply trying to build a business then you protect your reputation, because it's good business. In this case it would cost BFL nothing additional to employ a COO/PR frontman with the ability to act with some semblance of professionalism, yet they fail to do so. It would also cost BFL nothing to explain the inconsistencies with their public statements, instead the same poor performing company officer liberally dispenses insults to those that inquire. I think we can all agree this is bad business policy if you intend to continue operations going forward. You keep saying this, but as per your usual mode of operations you are just pulling "facts" out of your ass. This is why I call you an idiot. You do not know the first thing about BFLs financials or how we work, yet you keep making these grand pronouncements as if you do. I would ask you to stop, but you and both know you're incapable of telling the truth in your posts. Nearly everything you post, at least with regards to BFL is a lie one way or another and this is just another example of your inability to separate your little fantasy world in your head (the way you wish things were) with the way things actually are. You whine and cry about how mean I am to you and how it's hurting BFL's business... but guess what, you are wrong. Most people here think you're an idiot and every time I make a post pointing out how stupid you are, our sales jump. Yes, I'm serious about this... I already pointed it out to you in the previous thread(s) that I only post on here when things slow down sales wise. The more you post your stupidity, the more ammunition you give me to refute your lies and BS. If you stopped posting lies, I would have nothing to post... but yet you are (apparently) incapable of refraining from posting false information about BFL. So I thank you for that. You complain about my lack of professionalism. Sir, I ask you why you think you deserve professionalism? You have done nothing but attack me and BFL from the start. You have done nothing but post false information and blatant lies time after time. Tell me, why do you think you deserve ANY respect what so ever? You are a troll, plain and simple. You deserve nothing but contempt and disdain. Just as a side note for all the dumbasses that seem fixated on 1200 sq ft. WTF? Where does this logic even come from? Why would we rent only 1200 sq feet of warehouse space? How does that even make any sense? This is why I call some people idiots. You start spouting this nonsense like it makes perfect sense and then run with it. It's seriously the Special Olympics here half the time. ZOMG! They rented 1200 sq feet of space, it must mean they can't manufacture anything! Never mind that other 4800 sq feet that's mentioned, we'll conveniently ignore that because you can't possibly rearrange the inside of a building to suit your needs, because that's IMPOSSIBLE!!!!1!!!1 ZOMG BFL IS LYING!~!!! There is no way a website can be inaccurate! Everything posted on the internet is true! OMG!!!!!!!!1! BFL IS LYING!!!1!!!! OMG!!!!I'll just ignore most of your insecure childlike blather and focus on the bolded since it came closer than usual to actually addressing something relevant. The specs were posted by PG, not me, though I'm sure with your inflated ego we all seem like ants before the great and powerful OZ Inaba. He did actually address what you just said...before you said it, if your valuable time can be wasted reading what a fellow idiot wrote. Your response is not an official denial or explanation btw, just more insults and BFLisms. Can one imply then that BFL is remodeling this flex/office space for manufacturing? A simple yes or no please, hold the bs Mr. Clinton.
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December 24, 2012, 08:59:46 PM |
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OMG- how did I miss this? That was freaking hilarious, thank you!
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December 24, 2012, 11:42:24 PM |
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This is the place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.
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December 24, 2012, 11:46:16 PM |
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This is the place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions. Correct. Someone just forgot to change the thread title.
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December 24, 2012, 11:48:54 PM |
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This is the place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.
And remember, the points don't matter.
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December 25, 2012, 12:05:20 AM |
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Course not. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) BFL reps will continue to deceive pre-order customers for months issuing lie after lie and all will be well as long as their ever angry ego maniacal backpacking ringleader shows up to run people down from time to time. Obviously it is not the policy of BFL to address the glaring discrepancies with their own press releases or this would have been done long ago. The policy seems to be ride it out, produce another "fuzzy" release date every few weeks, and attack those that are outspoken about the inconsistencies.
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December 25, 2012, 12:14:20 AM |
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Never mind that other 4800 sq feet that's mentioned, we'll conveniently ignore that because you can't possibly rearrange the inside of a building to suit your needs...(conveniently left off the rest of this sentence) I didn't ignore it, for I needed it for the equation 6000 - 4800 = 1200. Your carefully worded post doesn't specifically state that such a remodel occurred. Assuming though that's the case, a permit is available. Unlike a private lease agreement, a permit is public record, therefore there should be no problem on BFL's end posting an image of said permit. I'll go one better: If BFL posts an image of a permit depicting a remodel at 10770 El Monte #101, I will never post another remark about BFL again as long as they remain a viable entity. I'll even put in my sig what everybody else has, showcasing BFL until the day ASIC products are delivered plus 30 days thereafter--without any disclaimers or any other info. Just a BFL ad like all others. I would say that that's a pretty generous offer. But no image of permit = no remodel = only 1200 SF of flex space = I am correct in my assessment. Your move! ~Bruno K~
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December 25, 2012, 12:44:40 AM |
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LOL Very funny ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 25, 2012, 12:56:16 AM |
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I'm just curious what the magical date is for many of the people who ordered in June/July to lose faith and pull the plug.
I wonder if that date even exists and the delays could stretch on for another 6 months. Hmmm.
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December 25, 2012, 01:44:35 AM |
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Never mind that other 4800 sq feet that's mentioned, we'll conveniently ignore that because you can't possibly rearrange the inside of a building to suit your needs...(conveniently left off the rest of this sentence) I didn't ignore it, for I needed it for the equation 6000 - 4800 = 1200. Your carefully worded post doesn't specifically state that such a remodel occurred. Assuming though that's the case, a permit is available. Unlike a private lease agreement, a permit is public record, therefore there should be no problem on BFL's end posting an image of said permit. I'll go one better: If BFL posts an image of a permit depicting a remodel at 10770 El Monte #101, I will never post another remark about BFL again as long as they remain a viable entity. I'll even put in my sig what everybody else has, showcasing BFL until the day ASIC products are delivered plus 30 days thereafter--without any disclaimers or any other info. Just a BFL ad like all others. I would say that that's a pretty generous offer. But no image of permit = no remodel = only 1200 SF of flex space = I am correct in my assessment. Your move! ~Bruno K~ I've helped many friends with warehouse/office's add a flimsy partition or two & no permit was required.Worst case scenario is when moving fairly large equipment into an office space,a door will need to be removed & a stud or two removed to let the equipment in & then the door & framing/studs reinstalled,again no permit was required as nothing was structurely changed in any permanant fashion. I have a very early order #,so getting a refund is out of the question as I couldn't place an order anywhere & get a product anytime soon & no other product will have the quoted performance either,except maybe bASIC.So I'm stuck waiting & waiting,etc............... MERRY CHRISTMAS FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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December 25, 2012, 02:00:03 AM |
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MERRY CHRISTMAS FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks mate ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Right back at ya!
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December 25, 2012, 02:24:38 AM |
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MERRY CHRISTMAS FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks mate ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Right back at ya! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.styleforum.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fcheers.gif&t=665&c=pm8Ca-4NunKBEQ) Cheers!
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LOL Very funny ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) My first attempt at the parody. Only one minor error, and it could have been worded just a tad tighter, but... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OznV2kdlgiECreated for humor purposes only. Consider any truisms a coincidence.
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December 25, 2012, 02:34:18 AM |
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ROFL! Excellent work! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 25, 2012, 02:41:56 AM |
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MERRY CHRISTMAS FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks mate ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Right back at ya! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.styleforum.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fcheers.gif&t=665&c=pm8Ca-4NunKBEQ) Cheers! Aye, merry Christmas to my fellow tin foil hat crew! Here is my (about to hit Ebay) graveyard of GPUs chillin' with some tasty beverages! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1155.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp558%2Frowtaree%2F2012-12-24_20-36-44_260.jpg&t=665&c=_342yggfvvlUpQ) Cheers!!!! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.styleforum.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fcheers.gif&t=665&c=pm8Ca-4NunKBEQ)
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