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[Franz_Huber]

What exactly are atoms? Are they on a separate blockchain?

Atoms use to be called XPYBiTS and were used to crowd fund the V2 platform. The Atom are only available by bidding on them on the Ionomy platform. Atoms will produce daily Electons at 10 Atoms per 1 Electron. The Electrons can be used on Stakers to double your stake rate.

So am I assuming correctly that Atoms and Electrons do not have a blockchain? They are a promise for getting more IONs at a later time, so they are a security, yes?

[Franz_Huber]

The Electrons can be used on Stakers to double your stake rate.

Where does the extra staking power of electronified stakers come from?

[WildShark]

Atoms use to be called XPYBiTS and were used to crowd fund the V2 platform. The Atom are only available by bidding on them on the Ionomy platform. Atoms will produce daily Electons at 10 Atoms per 1 Electron. The Electrons can be used on Stakers to double your stake rate.

There are only 100,000 Atoms and owning them will give you different privileges: WHALE at 5000+ Atoms with free services, 1000+ Atoms for Founder with 1/2 price off services and 100+ for Members with 25 % off services.

[suchmoon]

What exactly are atoms? Are they on a separate blockchain?

Atoms use to be called XPYBiTS and were used to crowd fund the V2 platform. The Atom are only available by bidding on them on the Ionomy platform. Atoms will produce daily Electons at 10 Atoms per 1 Electron. The Electrons can be used on Stakers to double your stake rate.

So am I assuming correctly that Atoms and Electrons do not have a blockchain? They are a promise for getting more IONs at a later time, so they are a security, yes?

But it's all in Singapore so completely legal presumably. SEC approved™.

[WildShark]

What exactly are atoms? Are they on a separate blockchain?

Atoms use to be called XPYBiTS and were used to crowd fund the V2 platform. The Atom are only available by bidding on them on the Ionomy platform. Atoms will produce daily Electons at 10 Atoms per 1 Electron. The Electrons can be used on Stakers to double your stake rate.

So am I assuming correctly that Atoms and Electrons do not have a blockchain? They are a promise for getting more IONs at a later time, so they are a security, yes?

Correct they are not on the blockchain. The Electrons can be stored in an Electron Storage for use of electrifying features (i.e. double rate on Stakers, enhancing the power of an ION weapon)

[WildShark]

What exactly are atoms? Are they on a separate blockchain?

Atoms use to be called XPYBiTS and were used to crowd fund the V2 platform. The Atom are only available by bidding on them on the Ionomy platform. Atoms will produce daily Electons at 10 Atoms per 1 Electron. The Electrons can be used on Stakers to double your stake rate. In the future, you will be able to rent out Atoms to other users.

Correct they are not on the blockchain. The Electrons can be stored in an Electron Storage for use of electrifying features (i.e. double rate on Stakers, enhancing the power of an ION weapon, being earned by playing game or viewing advertisements). In the future, you will be able to purchase Electrons.

[simdude]

What exactly are atoms? Are they on a separate blockchain?

Atoms use to be called XPYBiTS and were used to crowd fund the V2 platform. The Atom are only available by bidding on them on the Ionomy platform. Atoms will produce daily Electons at 10 Atoms per 1 Electron. The Electrons can be used on Stakers to double your stake rate.

So am I assuming correctly that Atoms and Electrons do not have a blockchain? They are a promise for getting more IONs at a later time, so they are a security, yes?

Correct they are not on the blockchain. The Electrons can be stored in an Electron Storage for use of electrifying features (i.e. double rate on Stakers, enhancing the power of an ION weapon)

Here's my advice then: Stay away from this crap as far as you can.

Thank's for the advice. But since you are not going to take a risk, and other are. What happens if it turns out everything is good. Will you come back and retract all your statements and make a public apology for Posting FUD.

I will make a public apology if it all goes up in smoke.

Atoms are a Membership Token. They provide Things within the Platform. Kinds like a Pro Membership you can say that you can sell to other users if you want.

I don't have all the info on what is happening on the 16th when it comes to atoms since i do not owe any.

I agree i would like to see the Singapore Company registration information. And from what i heard from adam the CEO is waiting for a letter from the local government that provides him The approval process to convert the old company name to the new company name. I think that is what he said.

Overall i trust what the team @ ionomy is doing. (As you know i used to be part of that team but i have other projects i am working on and have no time to help them (So you dont have to take my word)).

Now cant we all just wait to see what is going to happen. It might go up in flames. It might turn out to be something good. If you think its a bad investment Don't invest. And always if you do invest do so knowing you might lose everything you put into it. So Invest only as much as you are willing to lose.

[Franz_Huber]

I will make a public apology if it all goes up in smoke.

Oh you mean like MrCoins did? At the end of the Paycoin scam he said he was so sorry for being a shill. I wonder how many millions of dollars his shilling cost other people.

Overall i trust what the team @ ionomy is doing. (As you know i used to be part of that team but i have other projects i am working on and have no time to help them (So you dont have to take my word)).

Well I guess we're different then. I trust the Bitcoin blockchain. You trust a shady, intransparently premined shitcoin scheme where Atoms and Electrons for hyperstaking are stored off-blockchain.

If you think its a bad investment Don't invest.

You bet.

[simdude]

I will make a public apology if it all goes up in smoke.

Oh you mean like MrCoins did? At the end of the Paycoin scam he said he was so sorry for being a shill. I wonder how many millions of dollars his shilling cost other people.

Overall i trust what the team @ ionomy is doing. (As you know i used to be part of that team but i have other projects i am working on and have no time to help them (So you dont have to take my word)).

Well I guess we're different then. I trust the Bitcoin blockchain, you trust a shady, intransparently premined shitcoin scheme where Atoms and Electrons for hyperstaking are stored off-blockchain.

If you think its a bad investment Don't invest.

You bet.

MrCoins is his own person what he does does not effect me.

I trust bitcoin Blockchain. Its not hard to trust it takes 30 min to send coins via that.
What is wrong with premine. Your mad cause you can put hardware to it? Who cares about hardware mining. If you like it do it.
When the coin launches and you can track every single premine coin on the blockchain and it does exactly what it should do in the right manner. What will you have to say.
So far i have put my trust into them for over a year they have provide great products and done some amazing things. And lost fights that well had almost no odds of winning.
But they Tried. I have seen companies Try in bitcoin it self and Fail get called a scam and what not. And it somewhat tarnished the bitcoin name. But The BTCTARDS Still love it and still push on. I am a BTCTARD or i would not be here. But overall i will see ion threw. It might work it might not. That is the risk i am taking.


Since you are not going to invest. Why should people listen to you.

[Franz_Huber]

So far i have put my trust into them for over a year they have provide great products and done some amazing things.

Their attempt to prolong the Paycoin scam via XPY.io was a "great product"?

[suchmoon]

MrCoins is his own person what he does does not effect me.

I trust bitcoin Blockchain. Its not hard to trust it takes 30 min to send coins via that.
What is wrong with premine. Your mad cause you can put hardware to it? Who cares about hardware mining. If you like it do it.
When the coin launches and you can track every single premine coin on the blockchain and it does exactly what it should do in the right manner. What will you have to say.
So far i have put my trust into them for over a year they have provide great products and done some amazing things. And lost fights that well had almost no odds of winning.
But they Tried. I have seen companies Try in bitcoin it self and Fail get called a scam and what not. And it somewhat tarnished the bitcoin name. But The BTCTARDS Still love it and still push on. I am a BTCTARD or i would not be here. But overall i will see ion threw. It might work it might not. That is the risk i am taking.

Since you are not going to invest. Why should people listen to you.

Let's see how many Garza's fallacies we can find here.

Bitcoin is slow, XPY ION is fast
Premine is good, hardware mining is bad
PNGs are amazing
Check the blockchain but we will not disclose our addresses
You have to be an investor to have an opinion

There is probably a couple more that I can't be bothered to identify. Has it ever occurred to you to actually learn how things work in real world instead of repeating some PR bullet points?

[WildShark]

Atoms Live Auction - last chance to bid on the 259 Atoms left before the conversion to 8*IONs

[pixelpowered]

Atoms Live Auction - last chance to bid on the 259 Atoms left before the conversion to 8*IONs

Thank you for the update.
Do you happen to know where I can find the information in regards to the XPY holders trading in ION coins?
Possibly what places in the XPY explorer I could look to see the trading done?

[ThePointlessOne]

Atoms Live Auction - last chance to bid on the 259 Atoms left before the conversion to 8*IONs

Thank you for the update.
Do you happen to know where I can find the information in regards to the XPY holders trading in ION coins?
Possibly what places in the XPY explorer I could look to see the trading done?

Good question. I'd like to know this too.

[WildShark]

Do you happen to know where I can find the information in regards to the XPY holders trading in ION coins?
Possibly what places in the XPY explorer I could look to see the trading done?

Good question. I'd like to know this too.

the balance of the swap was/is spread across many addresses. They would be the coins being burned.
http://ledger.paycoin.com/charts/outstanding

[eyeballer]

Y'know, I think it's a good public service to encourage people to research before they invest. Congrats to the heroes here for being so epically heroic.

Some of the same heroes posted when GAW was a scam and they were absolutely right. I've talked to some people who invested. They say that they didn't take the critics seriously because they seemed so rabid they made themselves seem ridiculous. I hear they could have been more effective by just sticking to the facts.

The doubters could be more effective this time, too. But instead of presenting good factual information or raising questions, the skeptics make attacks that are so personal and vitriolic.

What's funny is there are actually some decent points to consider in what they say, but they undermine their own arguments by their hostility and reasoning by association. For example, identifying Mordica as Matlack. The repeated claim that essentially anyone involved with Paycoin (as a customer, trader, investor, or leader of the scam) are all equally culpable, bad, stupid, naive, and ill-intentioned. That just doesn't follow. Maybe they think the argument is enough to scare off some investors? And maybe it is.

The heroes call anyone who ever invested in GAW/Paycoin "gawtards" (nice). And say that they are either stupid, corrupt, naive, or new to crypto. Well, actually those are different things. There's a big difference between the guy new to crypto (that applied to all of us at one point) and the jerk exploiting those new to crypto (that applies to way too many, in my opinion). Garza by all accounts I've read knew how to manipulate people new to crypto, and even trapped people who were already interested in crypto. He rigged a system that would play on people's self interest so he could make money and run.

There are also a bunch of double binds: no way the ionomy people could possibly win. If ionomy is successful in this ICO, they are stealing money and exporting suckers. If they don't, they are losers who failed because they are stupid. If they are the same people who tried to do anything with Paycoin, then they 1.) shouldn't have been involved with a shitcoin in the first place, 2.) must be criminals, exploiting their customer base, 3.) failed at rescuing the value in XPY (huh? how were they supposed to do that if it was a shitcoin in the first place?), 4.) abandoned their XPY.io customer base, 5.) abandoned XPY, 6.) are stupid to think that anything other than Bitcoin could be a legitimate basis for a business model, 7.) must have a long term plan to screw over their new customer base to cover their losses from their stupid investments in XPY/GAW which their either orchestrated or were too stupid not to be duped by....

I could go on. Maybe I will in another post.

Consider this: Whoever is behind ionomy, they could really just as easily have started another coin without connecting their name or company to Paycoin / XPY. I have to think that was intentional decision. Unless they are as stupid as these caricature bitcointalk whales heroes make them out to be.

None of this is to say it's a legitimate operation. Or that people should invest without due diligence. Or that their business model is plausible. But what's up with the heroes of this community engaging in libel (the written version of slander) to condemn the characters of a group of people by association with one of the worst crypto criminals to date? It's essentially a smear campaign that generates more heat than light.

[kken01]

you have some good points but we can only gauge this operation from the information thats posted here. and ionomy team thinks BCT = pure peons and need not to engage hence little information (i wonder why they even started this thread if they are not going to look at it ever.... mmh?)

btw it was only one person who made that mistake of matlack=mordica. they are business partners tho as proven by suchmoons pic/archive

also as a final note: scamming and incompetence are 2 different things but they are often used interchangeable in this topic... usually leads to the same outcome for the investors

[ThePointlessOne]

Do you happen to know where I can find the information in regards to the XPY holders trading in ION coins?
Possibly what places in the XPY explorer I could look to see the trading done?

Good question. I'd like to know this too.

the balance of the swap was/is spread across many addresses. They would be the coins being burned.
http://ledger.paycoin.com/charts/outstanding

So there's no public data of exactly how many coins were swapped?

[Bige086]

Do you happen to know where I can find the information in regards to the XPY holders trading in ION coins?
Possibly what places in the XPY explorer I could look to see the trading done?

Good question. I'd like to know this too.

the balance of the swap was/is spread across many addresses. They would be the coins being burned.
http://ledger.paycoin.com/charts/outstanding

So there's no public data of exactly how many coins were swapped?

There were a set amount that could be exchanged, I believe a total of 1.2 million ion. At an exchange rate of 8xpy:1ion that would be a total of 9.6 million xpy that were exchanged.

Edit: These ion are going into stakers of 6, 9, and 12 month stakers, 400,000 were available in each time. This will give time for the platform to develop and release games before they are released into the open.

[kken01]

so about half has been burned... what happend to the other half