S9 can hash in other pools as usual. I will upload more screenshots from other pools as they becomes available.
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Yoshi, (at least others have been calling this account Yoshi. Maybe I missed where you stated this Yoshi is using this account.)
I would have replied much earlier but have been working up until meetings started at 8: AM and am just now able to sit down and put thoughts to keyboard.
Regardless, Yoshi, thank you for posting these screenshots. As I always have given credit or been a PITA I will continue to do so. It is appreciated this was commented on, and even more appreciated that a change was made to allow this to function correctly on many if not all pools. I sincerely hope it is all pools as I think we need all of the variety of honestly operated pools the Bitcoin scene can get.
For anyone who disagreed or misunderstood my post I choose to make sure it is understood all I asked for is a statement confirming the issue and communication regarding what if any plans were in place. Anyone who has been here for the past couple of years can surely speak to the communication issues if either not experienced personally then at least witnessed others going through. I do not think it is out of line to request more work from Bitmain to establish more communications in a timely manner and it leads me more to believe this is Yoshi responding without any other confirmation because he has done a significantly better job at this than anyone else I have worked with.
My understanding is a change was made to allow the S9 to work on other pools correctly. Since Kano's CKpool is the one displayed could you share any details regarding the change? I understand if it is proprietary, but if relative to CGMiner in any way it would only be following the license and sharing such shouldn't be an issue.
Thanks again for sharing this information, and if possible to share more there are always those of us eager to learn and communicate more with Bitmain.
In this type of situation a forum presence is a huge part of Sales, service, and general continuity with a customer base. Everytime people see a positive experience they place a mark in the pro side of dealing with bitmain and are less likely to feel forced considering the other choices in the market.
I for one look forward to receiving my S9s regardless of ROI. Obviously it plays a factor, and an ever growing factor considering my current ventures but it still does not reign over timely communications and rebuilding a relationship built on trust and transparency.
Again, Yoshi has been the sole person in a Sales capacity who seems to care and show understanding of these types of expectations, but there are many others in a service role who do give an impression where they seem to care about customer service. Some even seem to have pride, and that is commendable.
I also look forward towards seeing a community relationship with Bitmain where people do not feel there is some form of conspiracy. I believe some of the most vocal forum members regarding Bitmain faults have also been some of the same people who are quick to point out good products and who are quick to be just as vocal regarding positive aspects. I personally have always tried to make sure I state pure facts along with my opinion of any situation with any purchase, political scenario, or event which either does or could potentially impact every miner, not just myself or a few others.
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On another note, I think by now almost everyone with more than a few posts to the forum, at least the members who have been around for a couple of months realize the Pros and Cons of mining, buying and hodling, and at least the basics of calculating ROI. At their core these are not difficult concepts to comprehend. If anyone is commenting to brag about how they are going to make so much money from hodling that is great. Personally, I hope you are correct. The same goes for miners, especially those of us shelling out thousands for these S9s. We roll the dice in a riskier mode and in many cases it may be double, triple, or more of the risk.
The problem I see is when people are telling someone they are stupidly making bad choices by mining. First, you do not know this to be true. You cannot prove this to be fact. There is past data which will indicate such in many situations, but it is not fact for the future. What is wrong with wishing someone the best when it is obvious you are not changing the person's mind. The same goes for miners talking about how much they are going to make. We have a bit better data because we know X amount of blocks will be mined, but we cannot speak to the price, or the many other variables which are completely out of control.
There are threads in speculation which are more suited to the topic of hodling VS mining, but the simple fact is we are all different and will make our own choices. It does absolutely zero good to belittle anyone for their choice of supporting the Bitcoin Ecosystem and there are many other things we could discuss and channel energy towards than this argument, again. IT is as old or older than most of us posting here. Can we please give it a rest or at least move it off to speculation because that is truly what it is. Unless someone has picked up a crystal ball your predictions are not fact.
I for one would enjoy seeing actual past data posted. When someone purchased X amount of coins and hearing their strategy. I am also infatuated with hearing how people have rolled from one miner or miner(s) to a much larger farm today with Coin in their wallet still growing. These facts discussed in at least a friendly manner would do more to educate new miners than any amount of trashing someone because of their personal choice. That IS what it comes down to, a personal choice no different than one person deciding to lunch at Mexican, Chinese, Italian, or a Fat double cheeseburger with onion rings. It also takes all kinds to keep our ecosystem moving in the right direction which is why I do all of the above. I bought coins and hodl, I buy miners, and I do a few other things which I personally believe are places who are doing great things for our space.
I stopped being greedy for money a while back. I recognized I do not have the mindset to be Bill Gates, but I firmly believe there is one thing I am great at in my daily work and there are things which all of us should expect and give. That is striving to provide the absolute best service possible no matter what business you are involved with. Communication is THE most important aspect of such, and there is nothing wrong with demanding communication as the customer if it is not being provided and there is certainly something wrong with completely disrespecting your peers in an unfounded manner. If they deserve it, call them on their BS and don't take crap, but if they are simply choosing a different way and never hurt anyone else then maybe it isn't worth our time. I believe in taking up for the little guy and doing what I can to give someone a voice who may not otherwise speak up. I also do not see any reason to see new people come to the forum the way I did and see a bunch of infighting in the family over topics which are never going to change anything. My first experiences here at bitcointalk were enough for me to depart quickly because it appeared to be nothing but a home for scammers and a few people who seemed to hate each other. I left here and went to a forum which was nothing but a big scam.
Those are the things we should be avoiding regardless of our personal opinions of hodling versus mining. Besides, to some people there are many other aspects of mining which are worth a great deal of coin even if it isn't profit, and for others those same variables may be a superb pain in the ass and hodling is more appropriate.
I hope the goal is still one where we are showing others doing one or the other, or in some other way we show people this is an exciting place to be and is going to only become better regardless of the many mountains left to climb.
