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But... But... It says it's a limited edition! Of course it is. Hashrate limited to 12.93 TH/s ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 10, 2016, 08:46:17 PM |
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But... But... It says it's a limited edition! Of course it is. Hashrate limited to 12.93 TH/s ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) LOL- ya, Batch 3 will be limited too. It will be 10 THS and use only 980 watts at the wall....but cost you $1550. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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June 10, 2016, 08:49:50 PM |
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Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9. Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August. No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future! so buy and hold.. I did both I am holding coins . I am buying s-9's. I will let you know which does better. and once again all buy and hold predictions are wrong if this happens below. Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s coin price was 368 Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s coin price was 295 so buying an sp20 on nov 5 2014 mining it for just under 1 year vs buying a few coins on nov 5 2014 holding it for just under 1 year
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June 10, 2016, 08:54:33 PM |
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LOL- ya, Batch 3 will be limited too. It will be 10 THS and use only 980 watts at the wall....but cost you $1550. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) If bitcoin is $1000 by then and diff still below 300 I'd buy a couple ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Until then I'm happy to let others crowdfund the pigopolist.
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June 10, 2016, 08:57:39 PM |
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Wow! with that power consumption for 14th thatll be a good buy, but not now i guess ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Gona wait after halving and may consider, or even wait till the price drops to less than $1k
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June 10, 2016, 09:23:58 PM |
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[Why is it every time I buy a miner off of bitmaintech there is some sort of chinnese holiday and delayed shipping?
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June 10, 2016, 10:06:51 PM |
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Looks like Batch 2 is completely sold out. Buy button is now Gray.
Let the Batch 3 speculation begin.........
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June 10, 2016, 11:19:54 PM |
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Are they using the same receive addresses as before?
It would be interesting to estimate how many S9s have sold so far.
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Was I helpful? BTC: 3G1Ubof5u8K9iJkM8We2f3amYZgGVdvpHr
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June 10, 2016, 11:20:59 PM |
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Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9. Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August. No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future! so buy and hold.. I did both I am holding coins . I am buying s-9's. I will let you know which does better. and once again all buy and hold predictions are wrong if this happens below. Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s coin price was 368 Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s coin price was 295 so buying an sp20 on nov 5 2014 mining it for just under 1 year vs buying a few coins on nov 5 2014 holding it for just under 1 year If that happens you'll have 2.5 coins from this miner and I'll have 3.5 from holding. We both lose with price drop, but I lose less. If you can't ROI in BTC there is absolutely no scenario where the miner is better than holding. You gain less on BTC rise and lose more on BTC drop. And that's if your gear makes it a year. Remember, you've got all the risk of mining. <Edit> The numbers change a bit depending on how you run the math with the difficulty near but less than doubling in a year. Does it drop first then grow exponentially and slow down, or does it drop significantly and then grow steady, or simply grow steady? (rhetorical questions) It looks like you could ROI BTC in a year if the difficulty is friendly and you have access to good power rates. I know you're at $0.05, which is definitely good (for not having access to Chinese hydro-power...) This would put best case scenario as mining and holding equivalent return. The only difference then is the risk involved with mining.
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June 10, 2016, 11:52:58 PM |
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Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9. Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August. No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future! so buy and hold.. I did both I am holding coins . I am buying s-9's. I will let you know which does better. and once again all buy and hold predictions are wrong if this happens below. Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s coin price was 368 Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s coin price was 295 so buying an sp20 on nov 5 2014 mining it for just under 1 year vs buying a few coins on nov 5 2014 holding it for just under 1 year If that happens you'll have 2.5 coins from this miner and I'll have 3.5 from holding. We both lose with price drop, but I lose less. If you can't ROI in BTC there is absolutely no scenario where the miner is better than holding. You gain less on BTC rise and lose more on BTC drop. And that's if your gear makes it a year. Remember, you've got all the risk of mining. I would have a working miner in my case diff would be 1.57 x 196 = 307 coins would be 460 so the miner would be viable as an earner 1 year from today it would be earning .095 btc a diff adjustment at 10 cent power it would be earning .11 btc a diff adjustment at 9 cent power it would be earning .13 btc a diff adjustment at 8 cent power so if growth drops to 1.9 % for a year like my example which is did in my time frame and if price drops 20% which it did in my example. you would have a miner that does 13000th at 1300 watts a year from today and it would be a viable money earner . So it would bitch slap your buy and hold idea. you are wrong in my example.. if you fail to see that and admit it. you life will always be that of unhappiness and bitterness because yu fail to see you are wrong some of the time. I will say many cases that can happen that you would be correct about the s-9. but not my example above.
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June 11, 2016, 12:05:28 AM |
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Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9. Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August. No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future! so buy and hold.. I did both I am holding coins . I am buying s-9's. I will let you know which does better. and once again all buy and hold predictions are wrong if this happens below. Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s coin price was 368 Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s coin price was 295 so buying an sp20 on nov 5 2014 mining it for just under 1 year vs buying a few coins on nov 5 2014 holding it for just under 1 year If that happens you'll have 2.5 coins from this miner and I'll have 3.5 from holding. We both lose with price drop, but I lose less. If you can't ROI in BTC there is absolutely no scenario where the miner is better than holding. You gain less on BTC rise and lose more on BTC drop. And that's if your gear makes it a year. Remember, you've got all the risk of mining. I would have a working miner in my case diff would be 1.57 x 196 = 307 coins would be 460 so the miner would be viable as an earner 1 year from today it would be earning .095 btc a diff adjustment at 10 cent power it would be earning .11 btc a diff adjustment at 9 cent power it would be earning .13 btc a diff adjustment at 8 cent power so if growth drops to 1.9 % for a year like my example which is did in my time frame and if price drops 20% which it did in my example. you would have a miner that does 13000th at 1300 watts a year from today and it would be a viable money earner . So it would bitch slap your buy and hold idea. you are wrong in my example.. if you fail to see that and admit it. you life will always be that of unhappiness and bitterness because yu fail to see you are wrong some of the time. I will say many cases that can happen that you would be correct about the s-9. but not my example above. Haha, unhappiness and bitterness. I like it. My position has always been that you run ROI in BTC. If you can't ROI in BTC you hold. You're right in that the example you provided would make for a viable miner. It is viable in that scenario because it ROIs in BTC. I've been waiting for someone to stop arguing about the logic of BTC ROI and simply put forth the scenario and math in which this miner could actually accomplish a BTC ROI. Congratulations, you've done that. Now the only question is, do you believe the network will slow down to 2% growth?
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June 11, 2016, 12:58:00 AM |
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Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9. Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August. No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future! so buy and hold.. I did both I am holding coins . I am buying s-9's. I will let you know which does better. and once again all buy and hold predictions are wrong if this happens below. Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s coin price was 368 Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s coin price was 295 so buying an sp20 on nov 5 2014 mining it for just under 1 year vs buying a few coins on nov 5 2014 holding it for just under 1 year If that happens you'll have 2.5 coins from this miner and I'll have 3.5 from holding. We both lose with price drop, but I lose less. If you can't ROI in BTC there is absolutely no scenario where the miner is better than holding. You gain less on BTC rise and lose more on BTC drop. And that's if your gear makes it a year. Remember, you've got all the risk of mining. I would have a working miner in my case diff would be 1.57 x 196 = 307 coins would be 460 so the miner would be viable as an earner 1 year from today it would be earning .095 btc a diff adjustment at 10 cent power it would be earning .11 btc a diff adjustment at 9 cent power it would be earning .13 btc a diff adjustment at 8 cent power so if growth drops to 1.9 % for a year like my example which is did in my time frame and if price drops 20% which it did in my example. you would have a miner that does 13000th at 1300 watts a year from today and it would be a viable money earner . So it would bitch slap your buy and hold idea. you are wrong in my example.. if you fail to see that and admit it. you life will always be that of unhappiness and bitterness because yu fail to see you are wrong some of the time. I will say many cases that can happen that you would be correct about the s-9. but not my example above. Haha, unhappiness and bitterness. I like it. My position has always been that you run ROI in BTC. If you can't ROI in BTC you hold. You're right in that the example you provided would make for a viable miner. It is viable in that scenario because it ROIs in BTC. I've been waiting for someone to stop arguing about the logic of BTC ROI and simply put forth the scenario and math in which this miner could actually accomplish a BTC ROI. Congratulations, you've done that. Now the only question is, do you believe the network will slow down to 2% growth? Thank you , so happiness is in store for you and myself. Do I think the case above will repeat no , but I think it could repeat. So I purchased 3 s-9's (I have really low power cost) and I saved 5 coins. which is about an 11.5 to 5 coin ratio. and I have some cash 3k and a few eth miners 2k. If I really believed in it I would have done 7 s-9's at about 23 coins. so I am in coin game for 11-12 k but playing 4 or 5 positions looking to shift to any of the five spots.
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June 11, 2016, 01:15:45 AM |
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i read at cryptocompare the current rate of ROI with antminer S9 only 4month , i think after halving the rate of roi will be 8month right or not ? i have plan to buy 1 after halving.
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June 11, 2016, 02:52:35 AM |
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So I purchased 3 s-9's (I have really low power cost) and I saved 5 coins. which is about an 11.5 to 5 coin ratio. and I have some cash 3k and a few eth miners 2k. Gotta respect the diversification.
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June 11, 2016, 04:26:57 AM |
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i read at cryptocompare the current rate of ROI with antminer S9 only 4month , i think after halving the rate of roi will be 8month right or not ? i have plan to buy 1 after halving.
It should be less than double the time, but all factors considered it probably WILL take a couple more months to ROI. I don't think the price will compensate for the difficulty rising and halving of block rewards. Double? Probably not, but 1.3-1.5x longer to ROI? Probably.
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June 11, 2016, 04:53:29 AM |
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I think the life of the s9 will be longer. We are catching up with technology and the 10nm chip is a ways down the road. The s7 lasted about 9 months if my memory is correct. The s9 should be much longer.
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June 11, 2016, 08:18:54 AM |
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Looks life batch 2 is sold or anyone have an idea of time for batch 3?
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June 11, 2016, 08:45:41 AM |
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Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9. Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August. No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future! so buy and hold.. I did both I am holding coins . I am buying s-9's. I will let you know which does better. and once again all buy and hold predictions are wrong if this happens below. Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s coin price was 368 Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s coin price was 295 so buying an sp20 on nov 5 2014 mining it for just under 1 year vs buying a few coins on nov 5 2014 holding it for just under 1 year If that happens you'll have 2.5 coins from this miner and I'll have 3.5 from holding. We both lose with price drop, but I lose less. If you can't ROI in BTC there is absolutely no scenario where the miner is better than holding. You gain less on BTC rise and lose more on BTC drop. And that's if your gear makes it a year. Remember, you've got all the risk of mining. I would have a working miner in my case diff would be 1.57 x 196 = 307 coins would be 460 so the miner would be viable as an earner 1 year from today it would be earning .095 btc a diff adjustment at 10 cent power it would be earning .11 btc a diff adjustment at 9 cent power it would be earning .13 btc a diff adjustment at 8 cent power so if growth drops to 1.9 % for a year like my example which is did in my time frame and if price drops 20% which it did in my example. you would have a miner that does 13000th at 1300 watts a year from today and it would be a viable money earner . So it would bitch slap your buy and hold idea. you are wrong in my example.. if you fail to see that and admit it. you life will always be that of unhappiness and bitterness because yu fail to see you are wrong some of the time. I will say many cases that can happen that you would be correct about the s-9. but not my example above. Haha, unhappiness and bitterness. I like it. My position has always been that you run ROI in BTC. If you can't ROI in BTC you hold. You're right in that the example you provided would make for a viable miner. It is viable in that scenario because it ROIs in BTC. I've been waiting for someone to stop arguing about the logic of BTC ROI and simply put forth the scenario and math in which this miner could actually accomplish a BTC ROI. Congratulations, you've done that. Now the only question is, do you believe the network will slow down to 2% growth? If KnC liquidate their miners?? Yes & maybe negative growth ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Are they going to liquidate their miners?? I think not,probably put them under another corp & keep em runnin,they have very cheap electricity if I remember correctly ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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June 11, 2016, 10:57:11 AM |
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Network growth will not slow because these things are money printing machines.
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