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November 25, 2017, 09:09:46 PM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?
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November 26, 2017, 01:36:01 AM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?

The maximum tps is the rate at which a full node synchronizes DAG from scratch. Rough estimate is <50 TPS. It's definitely not infinite so "unbounded scalability" bragged about on https://byteball.org/ is an obvious overstatement.

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November 26, 2017, 07:39:36 AM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?

According to the lead dev, currently 10-20 tps due to missing optimizations:

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i can't say any numbers, there was no serious work on performance yet. There could be multiple ways to improve: better caching, less database use, more operations in memory, optimizing the sync procedure to minimize idle time, figuring out how to use more than one cpu core, plus many ways i didn't even think about

Maybe it’s already more because 1.11.3 introduced a sync optimization but no benchmark was taken yet.

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November 26, 2017, 10:07:49 AM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?

According to the lead dev, currently 10-20 tps due to missing optimizations:
So Byteball 10-20 tps at this moment is slower than Blockchain: Ethereum (20 tps), Bitcoin-Cach (50 TPS), Litecoin (50 TPS).
I think this is the main reason why the Byteball is undervalued, because high TPS is the main declared advantage of byteball.
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November 26, 2017, 11:32:21 AM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?

According to the lead dev, currently 10-20 tps due to missing optimizations:
So Byteball 10-20 tps at this moment is slower than Blockchain: Ethereum (20 tps), Bitcoin-Cach (50 TPS), Litecoin (50 TPS).
I think this is the main reason why the Byteball is undervalued, because high TPS is the main declared advantage of byteball.

What are you talking about? The slogan on byteball.org is ‘Smart payments made simple’, nothing about tps there. The devs concentrate their work to increase adoption with a wide range of features, no need to optimize tps yet. The potential is there because one of the things limiting throughput are blocks but other pieces must fall into place as well to achieve higher tps.

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November 26, 2017, 12:09:34 PM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?

According to the lead dev, currently 10-20 tps due to missing optimizations:
So Byteball 10-20 tps at this moment is slower than Blockchain: Ethereum (20 tps), Bitcoin-Cach (50 TPS), Litecoin (50 TPS).
I think this is the main reason why the Byteball is undervalued, because high TPS is the main declared advantage of byteball.

What are you talking about? The slogan on byteball.org is ‘Smart payments made simple’, nothing about tps there. The devs concentrate their work to increase adoption with a wide range of features, no need to optimize tps yet. The potential is there because one of the things limiting throughput are blocks but other pieces must fall into place as well to achieve higher tps.
I am talking about the name of this topic "BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments", where "new consensus algorithm" only means quick work (fast confirmation with deterministic finality and many TPS).
Yes, I agree that "private untraceable payments" and other features are very important. Something like private untraceable payments has other coins (Monero/Dash/...), but if the Byteball will have more than 1000 tps, then it would be the only one outstanding decentralized coin with such speed.
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November 26, 2017, 06:26:04 PM
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I have a question.

I just watched MacOS library of sheer curiosity and in "Default" folder in Byteball Application Support found the following files:

- top sites
- top sites-journal
- visited links
- web data
- web data-journal

Not that I am accusing someone or something, but would the developer or someone smarter than me answer why are they called so and what is their function?


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November 26, 2017, 06:39:08 PM
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is there an airdrop coming? when yes, when? thanks.

Please read the first page. Next airdrop in March 2018.

Next airdrop proposed to be in March 2018. Since it is dependent on the effectiveness of the other methods of distribution which are being planned, I strongly suspect that the airdrop might be cancelled. This wouldn't be a bad thing for byteball holders.

I agree. Less airdrops = less dumping (at some degree), other type of distribution (utility oriented) is much better for adoption on current stage.

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November 26, 2017, 06:40:11 PM
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I'm working on byteball.org website translation but some of the info needs update. I stumbled upon the following info regarding flight delays insurance:

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To insure against flight delay, find your counterpart in <0>#p2p_insurance</0> channel on our <1>Slack</1>, create a contract, and if your flight arrives late, <2>chat with flight delays oracle</2>   to have it post the data about the delay, then unlock the contract.
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Since "Flight insurance bot" has been introduced there's no need to find counterpart in the Slack channel. One just talk to bot which is much simpler and useful.

Would be nice to revise the website and update it with recent progress in features so ppl don't get confused and directed to irrelevant information.

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November 26, 2017, 08:01:51 PM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?

According to the lead dev, currently 10-20 tps due to missing optimizations:
So Byteball 10-20 tps at this moment is slower than Blockchain: Ethereum (20 tps), Bitcoin-Cach (50 TPS), Litecoin (50 TPS).
I think this is the main reason why the Byteball is undervalued, because high TPS is the main declared advantage of byteball.

What are you talking about? The slogan on byteball.org is ‘Smart payments made simple’, nothing about tps there. The devs concentrate their work to increase adoption with a wide range of features, no need to optimize tps yet. The potential is there because one of the things limiting throughput are blocks but other pieces must fall into place as well to achieve higher tps.
I am talking about the name of this topic "BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments", where "new consensus algorithm" only means quick work (fast confirmation with deterministic finality and many TPS).
Yes, I agree that "private untraceable payments" and other features are very important. Something like private untraceable payments has other coins (Monero/Dash/...), but if the Byteball will have more than 1000 tps, then it would be the only one outstanding decentralized coin with such speed.

I think byteball's tps value is quite all right right now. It's technology is totally different from other cryptos with blockchain. It's relatively new (launch was less than a year ago). I'm sure it can be optimized if it will be a concern in the future...
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November 26, 2017, 08:33:08 PM
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Can anyone tell me why price of Byteball should rise up?

I read much about it and I belive that Byteball is udervalued and it will rise soon.

I am asking because it is always better to know more opinions Smiley
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November 26, 2017, 09:31:37 PM
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Byteball has confirmation-time about 30 seconds: http://www.tangleblog.com/2017/01/03/byteball-vs-iota-token/
But what is the maximum TPS (transactions per second) can reach Byteball at this moment?
Were there any stress-test?

The maximum tps is the rate at which a full node synchronizes DAG from scratch. Rough estimate is <50 TPS. It's definitely not infinite so "unbounded scalability" bragged about on https://byteball.org/ is an obvious overstatement.
From what I know, transactions go faster as the network grows. No magic here, just the way Directed Acyclic Graph works.

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November 26, 2017, 09:55:41 PM
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Can anyone tell me why price of Byteball should rise up?

I read much about it and I belive that Byteball is udervalued and it will rise soon.

I am asking because it is always better to know more opinions Smiley

Not long time ago people were buying GBYTE because of the airdrops (and were immediately dumping it on Bittrex ) and neglecting the technology completely. Now when airdrops have been put on pause (till march 2018...) people can & will reconsider the coin and its potential. The main goal was to promote Byteball as much as possible among the Bitcoin community (the largest to date) and it was done in a timely manner and smartly. Now its time to explore it and use it properly.

Taking into account only the heavy development work which is ongoing non-stop since launch of the project,  creates trust to this project (check github). Coinmarketcap displays majority ICOs coins with no product whatsoever just WP site (in best case scenario), so ask yourself, when the dust settles with ICOs where the money will go? (90% of them will fail at the end). I personally believe in projects that have a solid foundation, reputation and product of course and Byteball has its all.

P.S. I mentioned only the development, not the actual possibilities of the Byteball  Wink
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November 26, 2017, 11:24:19 PM
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I am talking about the name of this topic "BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments", where "new consensus algorithm" only means quick work (fast confirmation with deterministic finality and many TPS).
Yes, I agree that "private untraceable payments" and other features are very important. Something like private untraceable payments has other coins (Monero/Dash/...), but if the Byteball will have more than 1000 tps, then it would be the only one outstanding decentralized coin with such speed.

I think byteball's tps value is quite all right right now. It's technology is totally different from other cryptos with blockchain. It's relatively new (launch was less than a year ago). I'm sure it can be optimized if it will be a concern in the future...
Yes, developers awaits a large number of people (and transactions) before accelerate Byteball, but people wait when the Byteball will work faster than others, before everyone switches to it. Everyone is waiting for each other Smiley Someone must take the first step.
Most people do not understand technology DAG and do not believe that the Byteball will ever be able to handle a lot of TPS, until it really shows this performance on tests.
Maybe the developers of Byteball are waiting for the right moment for this, when Bitcoin and Ethereum will start losing users due the huge number of TPS.
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November 27, 2017, 02:28:45 AM
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It's not rocket science to make confirmations faster with byteball. Transactions are confirmed when witness broadcasts a unit of transactions into the DAG database. To do so witness needs to pay fee for adding data. Witness earns fees from transactions included in the unit payed by users broadcasting transactions itself. When there's not many transactions it's expensive for witness to post new units every 1 or 2 seconds. When there's plenty of transactions witnesses can post units more frequently making confirmations faster.

Conclusion - transactions will be confirmed faster when there's more transactions and witnesses can earn users' fees to post units more frequently.

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November 27, 2017, 08:00:37 AM
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I have a question.

I just watched MacOS library of sheer curiosity and in "Default" folder in Byteball Application Support found the following files:

- top sites
- top sites-journal
- visited links
- web data
- web data-journal

Not that I am accusing someone or something, but would the developer or someone smarter than me answer why are they called so and what is their function?



Byteball core and its GUI is coded with a browser language (Javascript). The GUIs use the NW.js framework which is basically a browser software available for multiple platforms. That's why you may found this kind of files related to browsing even if it they are not relevant for Byteball.

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November 27, 2017, 08:06:21 AM
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I have a question.

I just watched MacOS library of sheer curiosity and in "Default" folder in Byteball Application Support found the following files:

- top sites
- top sites-journal
- visited links
- web data
- web data-journal

Not that I am accusing someone or something, but would the developer or someone smarter than me answer why are they called so and what is their function?



Byteball core and its GUI is coded with a browser language (Javascript). The GUIs use the NW.js framework which is basically a browser software available for multiple platforms. That's why you may found this kind of files related to browsing even if it they are not relevant for Byteball.

Thank you for the explanation.

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November 27, 2017, 08:44:29 AM
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November 27, 2017, 08:59:33 AM
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Can somebody be so kind and explain to me in layman language how to trade my blackbytes for GBYTE. I have been holding for a few drops and have quiet a few accumulated. Never did the trade though. Months ago when there was no bot to do it I belive I was looking at slack to get a trade going but it seemed so complex I gave up. Would much appreciate it.
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November 27, 2017, 09:12:50 AM
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Can somebody be so kind and explain to me in layman language how to trade my blackbytes for GBYTE. I have been holding for a few drops and have quiet a few accumulated. Never did the trade though. Months ago when there was no bot to do it I belive I was looking at slack to get a trade going but it seemed so complex I gave up. Would much appreciate it.

Just connect with Freebe.
Or go to the website and click on "pairing" its super easy.

Than you simply type "sell 50g <you address>" and it lets you sell your blackbytes for the best market price.
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Also check out the help section of the  website for detailed instructions!

Happy trading.

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