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December 03, 2017, 09:45:54 PM |
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A better tech will win in the end no matter what. Did smartphones or laptops need a "better presentation" and promotional campaigns? Of course not. If something works better people will choose to use it and the word will spread like wildfire.
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Random-String-Symphony
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December 03, 2017, 10:12:02 PM |
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Long time lurker here. Love Byteball. Decided to register to say how awesome Freebe Vouchers are. Will spread the word through those as much as I can.
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⚪ Obyte ❱❱❱ I T J U S T W O R K S . ❱❱❱
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DrTeddus
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December 04, 2017, 12:42:39 AM |
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A better tech will win in the end no matter what. Did smartphones or laptops need a "better presentation" and promotional campaigns? Of course not. If something works better people will choose to use it and the word will spread like wildfire.
I disagree. Nobody bought blackberry's first 'smartphones' or microsoft's 2002 tablet. It took apple some serious effort to promote their product to a targeted consumer segment. The lackluster (appearing) prsentation skills by Tony could have nefarious effects on the byteball ecosystem. IOTA is far from perfect but their connections and networking potential, make it more attractive for devs to use and deploy on their DAG.
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European Central Bank
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December 04, 2017, 01:32:00 AM |
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this is rapidly heading towards becoming my biggest ever crypto loss, but i still think it's the coolest thing in crypto.
i'd love to know what iota are doing to stay where they're at. it's a huge mystery.
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SockPuppetTheSecond
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December 04, 2017, 03:37:52 AM |
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Put 100,000 GBYTE into a Byteball Foundation to use for marketing, corporate outreach, expanding the dev team, etc.
Put 100,000 aside to continue using for cashback merchant program and any other future programs.
Airdrop the rest.
Done.
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December 04, 2017, 04:31:20 AM |
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A better tech will win in the end no matter what. Did smartphones or laptops need a "better presentation" and promotional campaigns? Of course not. If something works better people will choose to use it and the word will spread like wildfire.
I disagree. Nobody bought blackberry's first 'smartphones' or microsoft's 2002 tablet. It took apple some serious effort to promote their product to a targeted consumer segment. The lackluster (appearing) prsentation skills by Tony could have nefarious effects on the byteball ecosystem. IOTA is far from perfect but their connections and networking potential, make it more attractive for devs to use and deploy on their DAG. Well explained and absolutely on point. I fear Byteball would need to be far far superior in terms of technology to compete with IOTA on a promising level.
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wertram
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December 04, 2017, 05:01:30 AM |
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Isn't byteball better than IOTA on may technical fronts? My concern is that the byteball team does not have the funds or connections to compete with IOTA, any thoughts from someone that knows more about this project?
IOTA is in principle centralized. It could be disadvantage.
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HybCZ
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December 04, 2017, 06:39:07 AM |
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Do you think Byteball can compete with IOTA. IOTA has no fees and byteball it has. I think that only for this reason IOTA will always have a suggestion. In addition, the interest of large companies is also on the IOTA side.
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DrTeddus
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December 04, 2017, 06:52:28 AM |
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Do you think Byteball can compete with IOTA. IOTA has no fees and byteball it has. I think that only for this reason IOTA will always have a suggestion. In addition, the interest of large companies is also on the IOTA side.
The only solution I see is to market the product towards a different costumer segment than iota's. Let's take some 'settlement coins' as an example: Ripple targets banks, while Stellar tries to work with private companies like IBM. NEM has a problem similar to Byteball's in the sense that it lacks a unique market (although they are very intersting from a tech standpoint). They do not really compete, granting all three the success they now have. Disclaimer: I do not own any byteballs (yet)
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Michail1
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December 04, 2017, 06:57:09 AM |
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Do you think Byteball can compete with IOTA. IOTA has no fees and byteball it has. I think that only for this reason IOTA will always have a suggestion. In addition, the interest of large companies is also on the IOTA side.
IOTA has been hacked. IOTA has buggeted / spent a lot of money towards marketing. IOTA doesn't have human readable smart contracts. - With byteball, I can send pay you xyz GB if you pay ment yzx GBB. No escrow need and it's easy to do with the client directly and/or via Bots (also within the client).
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HybCZ
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December 04, 2017, 07:11:42 AM |
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Do you think Byteball can compete with IOTA. IOTA has no fees and byteball it has. I think that only for this reason IOTA will always have a suggestion. In addition, the interest of large companies is also on the IOTA side.
IOTA has been hacked. IOTA has buggeted / spent a lot of money towards marketing. IOTA doesn't have human readable smart contracts. - With byteball, I can send pay you xyz GB if you pay ment yzx GBB. No escrow need and it's easy to do with the client directly and/or via Bots (also within the client). Hmm interesting news, writing about it elsewhere more information, is it the underlying news?
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Saxnot
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December 04, 2017, 08:13:35 AM |
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What happened to the stock exchange cryptopia.co.nz, why does not work Deposit/Withdraw for Byteball? Wallets go up and down on exchanges ALL the time for all sorts of technical (and depending on exchange possibly manipulative reasons) just a fact of life here. This was the answer from cryptopia support Thank you for your message. Unfortunately we do not have any connections for GBYTE. Do you happen to have any nodes you wanted us to add? Adding some more nodes will add more available connections to this wallet and allow you to withdraw. If you had any nodes you wanted to add, please submit a new ticket with "PING NODES" as the subject line and we'll be sure to get those added. Alternatively I'd recommend keeping an eye on this wallet on our Coin Info page at https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=GBYTE and wait for some new connections to appear. Regards Cryptopia Support Transaction was completed but nothing in the network from my withdrawal if I check the explorer.
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December 04, 2017, 09:30:31 AM |
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Put 100,000 GBYTE into a Byteball Foundation to use for marketing, corporate outreach, expanding the dev team, etc.
Put 100,000 aside to continue using for cashback merchant program and any other future programs.
Airdrop the rest.
Done.
This. IOTA wins in marketing, shills, sockpuppets and small following of cultists. Technology doesnt matter, else we would all be using GNU/Linux since decades ago. But, best technology/fundamental does win if it has marketing. See IOTA fans are like cultists, because they had to spend BTC to aquire iotas, they are invested. For Byteball, a signature is the investment. So you dont see Byteball mentioned anywhere, people arent vested in it.
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December 04, 2017, 11:39:45 AM |
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What happened to the stock exchange cryptopia.co.nz, why does not work Deposit/Withdraw for Byteball? Wallets go up and down on exchanges ALL the time for all sorts of technical (and depending on exchange possibly manipulative reasons) just a fact of life here. This was the answer from cryptopia support Thank you for your message. Unfortunately we do not have any connections for GBYTE. Do you happen to have any nodes you wanted us to add? Adding some more nodes will add more available connections to this wallet and allow you to withdraw. If you had any nodes you wanted to add, please submit a new ticket with "PING NODES" as the subject line and we'll be sure to get those added. Alternatively I'd recommend keeping an eye on this wallet on our Coin Info page at https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=GBYTE and wait for some new connections to appear. Regards Cryptopia Support Transaction was completed but nothing in the network from my withdrawal if I check the explorer. It looks like they use an old version of Byteball core so other nodes ignore them.
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December 04, 2017, 11:51:28 AM |
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Do you think Byteball can compete with IOTA. IOTA has no fees and byteball it has. I think that only for this reason IOTA will always have a suggestion. In addition, the interest of large companies is also on the IOTA side.
No fees is not an advantage against very-low fees, but very-low fees protect the network against spamming. Don't be fooled by what they pretend about large companies supporting them, they hired advisors having relations with big companies for marketing purpose but be sure these guys barely know what is a crypto-currency and won't do any real work.
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IckyYak22871
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December 04, 2017, 03:50:55 PM |
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Do you think Byteball can compete with IOTA. IOTA has no fees and byteball it has. I think that only for this reason IOTA will always have a suggestion. In addition, the interest of large companies is also on the IOTA side.
No fees is not an advantage against very-low fees, but very-low fees protect the network against spamming. Don't be fooled by what they pretend about large companies supporting them, they hired advisors having relations with big companies for marketing purpose but be sure these guys barely know what is a crypto-currency and won't do any real work. I have a hard time to understand, why do we need fees to prevent spam? Proof of work was originally invented to prevent spam. You don't need a mining farm to submit transaction. A challenge should be easy enough to be solved by a cell phone or IOT device, but get exponentially more difficult for spammer with every next transaction. There are also other ways to prevent spam, like rate limited transactions (see steem, eos)
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December 04, 2017, 04:36:52 PM |
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IOTA market cap near $8B with Byteball being 2% of that. Simple truth is that if dev can get bytes listed on a bigger exchange such as bitfinex, coinone, or binance, Byteball will be in the hands of more people and have a higher market cap, and can better compete with IOTA in terms of visibility and gaining use cases.
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BurtW
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December 04, 2017, 04:46:39 PM |
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IOTA market cap near $8B with Byteball being 2% of that. Simple truth is that if dev community can get bytes listed on a bigger exchange such as bitfinex, coinone, or binance, Byteball will be in the hands of more people and have a higher market cap, and can better compete with IOTA in terms of visibility and gaining use cases.
Should not leave all the work up to the dev.
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December 04, 2017, 04:55:25 PM |
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Even more undervalued are BlackBytes, only around $8.7million marketcap. I think, BlackBytes are very important for the futur, I am satisfied with my investment 
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