Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux)

[sorry2xs]

This is the "carrot or stick" approach.
The 0.5% is the carrot for the masses to enter the SSL prison.
When the majority of the miners (sheeps) voluntarily enter the prison, the plain connection will be removed (stick), and escape will be impossible.
Then it will be easy to increase the fees at will.
Same story again.

Nice of you to compare people with sheep.
I'm not going to remove plain connection, so you still can try to remove 2% devfee and become rich.
I never increase devfee, only reduce.

Anyone noticed the post of the guy who circumvented the devfee with his tamper is gone.
Good news for Claymore and all the honest miners here.

Yes, thank you all for support, also thanks to mods that care about removing cracks from their forums.
I have enough experience in these games. These "hackers" think that all their cracks work.
Readme explains things about cheating clearly.
Of course it's possible to cheat and not to turn protection on, but it's rather difficult to see whether it's working, it's just a few %. So in most cases using cracks is similar to using "-nofee" option.

You misunderstood.

I pay my fees normally.  I am a decent "hacker", not a thief.  I WANT to pay my fees, i don't HAVE TO.  I perfectly well know how to "adjust" my fees, to 0%, and anything to 0 - 100% generally  (layer 7 manipulation in a smart router)..  Even without any tampering at the data stream, you may pay 0% or anything between 1.9 - 9.1% fee.  Simple math.

That doen't meen that i will  do it, and even worst that i will propagate this to other users.  As a developer myself, i am exactly at your position.

That i am telling, is that ENFORSEMENT of your rights (or law in  general), must not hurt the life of 99%+ of us lawful users (citizens) because of the 1%- of thiefs.  This is a terrible foreseable future, and i strongly oppose.

You don't have to remove plain connection, the POOLS will!  You will have nothing to blaim for...  But the simple user will be obliged to follow SSL if he wants to mine.  This is slavery.

Thanks for your app.

p.s.  yes most people let others to think for themselves and blindly repeat every nonsense they hear, like sheeps.  Is it new to you?

the 99% has always been forced to bear the actions of the 1% in all aspects life that is just how it is.

[philipma1957]

Does anyone have mining speeds for RX460?

yes around 95

[Claymore]

Hi all! So why do we need to use encryption ? Ane benefit from it ?

For past years miners never had a need for encryption and now SUDDENLY we need it.
It is of course pure coincidence this need happened after someone published a way to disable devfee. Right, Claymore?

It's not the reason that someone published a way to disable devfee, all these tricks were known before that. May be it's the reason for 10% devfee miner, but not for my 2% miner.
Yes SSL is definitely good for devfee protection, but you can bypass it anyway if it's so important for you and in fact after reducing devfee by 20% I expect to lose some money. It's not a problem for me, I like encryption as a feature anyway. I never said that you need SSL, you can use plain connection if you like it.
And I will not remove plain connection to force everyone to use SSL as some people think.

[Subw]

Nice of you to compare people with sheep.

This is what YOU believe they are.
That is why you set lower fee for encrypted port. To lure them in SSL trap.

[Claymore]

Nice of you to compare people with sheep.

This is what YOU believe they are.
That is why you set lower fee for encrypted port. To lure them in SSL trap.

SSL trap? It seems for any my action someone always finds some evil plan. Just use plain connection as before and forget about SSL!

[RustNan]

Does anyone have mining speeds for RX460?

yes around 95

It is about 50% of the 470.

[d57heinz]

Nice of you to compare people with sheep.

This is what YOU believe they are.
That is why you set lower fee for encrypted port. To lure them in SSL trap.

SSL trap? It seems for any my action someone always finds some evil plan. Just use plain connection as before and forget about SSL!

I think that has to do with people just tired of being fucked over. Its seems that with all in life there is "catch".  Can't blame people for trying to figure out what it is with you.  Am sure is nothing. It's all about alleviating risk.  

BR

[dlx]

Claymore:   (removed the big quote)

I take your word for granted, and i believe there is no hidden agreement with the pool owners about it.  Perhaps an unfortunate coincidence as co-miner said.

Then why the 2% offer?  The experienced thief will continue to robb you with the removal of 2.5% fee.  No bother for the 2%/SSL method.  This 2% "carrot" arouses many doubts.

I suggest to return to the 2.5% fee for all.

And, since that will be now a (political) disaster, i suggest to adjust 2% for all methods, so even the most suspicient users will have nothing to complain for (conspiracy theories).  After all, your profit is already (99% * 2%)  + (0% * 2.5%) = (100% * 2%).  Simple math.

Just my 2c.

[gaah]

Hi dear Claymore any news on v10.0 how long will it take?

[Za1n]

Hi dear Claymore any news on v10.0 how long will it take?

He's already stated the days of expecting a new release every 2-3 days are over as the miner is getting close to maximum performance. This fact can be further evidenced by the increase in power draw on the last few releases meaning the GPU is starting to be fully utilized.

Except for bug fixes and new features, expect further performance increases to being in the low single digit percent range with the releases becoming more spaced out with weeks/months in between, much like it is with his Ethereum version.

Please be patient, now it takes a lot of time to improve speed.
As I said before, it's possible to get good speedup but don't expect 30-50% speedups anymore and new versions every day, main speed racing is over.

[64dimensions]

Besides the high hash rate race for this mining software, has anyone looked at settings to operate their setup at it's most efficient?

[Subw]

Then why the 2% offer?

Well... maybe Claymore is SO concerned with user's security that he offered them discounted fee? Win-win for both Claymore and miners!

On the other hand if Claymore is so concerned with miner's security he can release his software open source and people would still pay fees regardless especially considering:

I expect to lose some money. It's not a problem for me

[Westant]

Hi dear Claymore any news on v10.0 how long will it take?

Most of the speed increase has been squeezed out. It is very possible that the speed increase will be 5%, with 2% power increase.

[Claymore]

Then why the 2% offer?

Well... maybe Claymore is SO concerned with user's security that he offered them discounted fee? Win-win for both Claymore and miners!

On the other hand if Claymore is so concerned with miner's security he can release his software open source and people would still pay fees regardless especially considering:

I expect to lose some money. It's not a problem for me

I have been selling various software for 15 years in different ways so I have some experience. Unfortunately, open source does not work.

[beIbox]

Hi dear Claymore any news on v10.0 how long will it take?

Most of the speed increase has been squeezed out. It is very possible that the speed increase will be 5%, with 2% power increase.

yeah,, and v.20++ will need nuclear power 

[Subw]

I have been selling various software for 15 years in different ways so I have some experience. Unfortunately, open source does not work.

So SSL introduction was not about security of the miners?

[JuanHungLo]

I have been selling various software for 15 years in different ways so I have some experience. Unfortunately, open source does not work.

So SSL introduction was not about security of the miners?

 LOL!  You're kidding, right?

[maxmad_x]

Then why the 2% offer?

Well... maybe Claymore is SO concerned with user's security that he offered them discounted fee? Win-win for both Claymore and miners!

On the other hand if Claymore is so concerned with miner's security he can release his software open source and people would still pay fees regardless especially considering:

I expect to lose some money. It's not a problem for me

I have been selling various software for 15 years in different ways so I have some experience. Unfortunately, open source does not work.

Hey Claymore ,
What would be a good place to learn how to code in general and how to code for miners in specific? Can you please guide. May be jsut 1 or 2 things that I need to get started.
Thank you

[HashZilla]

Besides the high hash rate race for this mining software, has anyone looked at settings to operate their setup at it's most efficient?

You mean like trying with, and without SSL to determine if it's worth complaining about?  

[rpg]

SSL was implemented long time ago for mining already but was removed again due to the increased network lag.

Lags can only create a pool if it spends a lot of time to encrypt/decrypt data, am I correct?
SSL connection is based on same sockets and it takes almost zero time on client side to encrypt/decrypt 1Kb of data.
I'm curious about server load, is it too expensive to use encrypted connections for you?

For me?  No, not at all but as said before, I've never heard of redirected or attacks (mitm)  for miners traffic   it's no problem for me that you're using ssl for securing your miner against no fee wrappers etc but IMHO you should just say so -  I believe most people won't have an issue with it

Man in the middle doesn't care about encryption lol. Very easy to implement. No need to write network drivers. For the miner the mitm is the pool that can decrypt the packet and forward it to the actual pool.