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September 16, 2013, 12:54:26 PM
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Abandon SHIP. REFUND!!! Everyone ask for their refund now while you still can.
I want my miner sooner!
worthless compared to wise stock/coin trading oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ggggggggggoooooooooodddddddddddd guess what?
No.http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/712-expected-delivery-of-asic-chips/page2vfxminer commented 13th September 2013, 08:29 AM I spoke to kncminer yesterday. The chips are in the final stages of production in taiwan. soon as they are ready they will be flown over in the next couple of weeks ready for production end of September. This month cannot go fast enough for me. ... Next couple of weeks means a least 2 weeks because 1 week fits not in a couple of week So if we are the 16/09, the chips will go away from Taiwan, the 29/09 Then they need to fly over the world to come to sweden: 5 days To be assembled: 5 days And shipped: 3-5 days So the miners won't be at home until the 15 th of october at the best ! And yes, Knc won't say anything about this because they fear a massive order clear/money refund/lost of trust, and this will be terrible for their fortune. And as a business they don't fear saying bullshit to have money from people. hmm, I'm scared that you are right.( Reminds me of reactions on the labcoin thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3148721#msg3148721Timer removed. End time: 2013-10-01+01:59:59UTC |
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September 16, 2013, 01:18:48 PM |
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baloo_kiev
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September 16, 2013, 01:24:18 PM |
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next copule of weeks
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September 16, 2013, 01:25:37 PM |
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Is regular troll convention today, yes? So many trolls wanting to predict future - if they were being any good at it they would be buying winning lottery tickets and not needing be here.
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Nemo1024
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September 16, 2013, 01:32:23 PM |
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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September 16, 2013, 01:32:46 PM |
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Is regular troll convention today, yes? So many trolls wanting to predict future - if they were being any good at it they would be buying winning lottery tickets and not needing be here.
Nah, i can't see the future, but watching u play Russian roulette with 5 chambers loaded is a blast  |
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September 16, 2013, 01:33:12 PM |
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Hearsay. I doubt they told him that they would be flown over "in a couple of weeks". They maybe told him that they are in the final stages of production and are flown over here asap... Next couple of weeks means a least 2 weeks because 1 week fits not in a couple of week
So if we are the 16/09, the chips will go away from Taiwan, the 29/09
That is not true. A couple means more than one week upwards. Then they need to fly over the world to come to sweden: 5 days How the heck did you figure that it takes 5 days from taiwan to sweden? it's a little less than 5200 miles from taipei to stockholm. That's approx 11 hours flight. Take into account the time to load/unload, transportation to the plane/to the assembly and that it is a cargo plane with around 537mph I would estimate a maximum of 30 hours for the whole procedure. To be assembled: 5 days Why 5 days? A professional assembling unit (not automated) can do more than 600 chips/boards per day. I think they will use an automated one, so it should be more than 1200 boards per day. That's 300 Jupiters per day. And that is the worst case scenario in my opinion. And shipped: 3-5 days Where do you live? To southern Germany it should take 4-5 days, if you live further away it takes a lot longer. |
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September 16, 2013, 01:34:53 PM |
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Is regular troll convention today, yes? So many trolls wanting to predict future - if they were being any good at it they would be buying winning lottery tickets and not needing be here.
Why do you call it trolling? Just having fun) Real trolling will start if they don't ship by 1st of October. Now instead of predicting the future, consider this raw fact: it's two weeks before the deadline and they still have no chips and even no prototype, hence no evidence of successful development. And don't tell me that FPGA is a prototype, just recall BFL who got several times lower hashrate and higher power consumption than expected. |
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September 16, 2013, 01:51:06 PM |
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Bargraphic's right, offering anything more substantial than "we're building shelving!" pics is not in KNC's best interest.
The smart thing to do now is wait... Quietly.
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hasher87
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September 16, 2013, 01:57:08 PM |
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Anyone that believe KnC told some customer that called them up on the phone ANYTHING about chips/chip delivery is a complete moron. That's all there is to it.
Oh by the way.
KnC told me on the phone today that "Insert whatever the fuck I want right here"
THIS unless its coming from KNC directly |
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September 16, 2013, 02:01:40 PM |
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Unrelated somewhat:
When solo mining, how do you know you've hit a block/won the lottery and should be expecting a 25btc payout soon?
I'd search but the connection I'm on is dying. Thanks for help/links.
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September 16, 2013, 02:05:54 PM |
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Hearsay. I doubt they told him that they would be flown over "in a couple of weeks". They maybe told him that they are in the final stages of production and are flown over here asap... Next couple of weeks means a least 2 weeks because 1 week fits not in a couple of week
So if we are the 16/09, the chips will go away from Taiwan, the 29/09
That is not true. A couple means more than one week upwards. Then they need to fly over the world to come to sweden: 5 days How the heck did you figure that it takes 5 days from taiwan to sweden? it's a little less than 5200 miles from taipei to stockholm. That's approx 11 hours flight. Take into account the time to load/unload, transportation to the plane/to the assembly and that it is a cargo plane with around 537mph I would estimate a maximum of 30 hours for the whole procedure. To be assembled: 5 days Why 5 days? A professional assembling unit (not automated) can do more than 600 chips/boards per day. I think they will use an automated one, so it should be more than 1200 boards per day. That's 300 Jupiters per day. And that is the worst case scenario in my opinion. And shipped: 3-5 days Where do you live? To southern Germany it should take 4-5 days, if you live further away it takes a lot longer. It's not automated assembly, they have stated that ..I thought it might be too. AFAIK, tomorrow is in the next two weeks, so are all the days until you get to that two weeks...which didn't begin today if that convo was true and wasn't today. If you hit a block mining solo nowadays the flying pigs deliver the bitcoins and your bravery medal  |
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September 16, 2013, 02:14:43 PM |
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Do you really believe this? We are expecting to start shipping towards the end of September, all orders which were paid for before the November prices were published will ship no later than October 15th.
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September 16, 2013, 02:16:03 PM |
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I you don't just shut up and cancel your damn order already.
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September 16, 2013, 02:17:22 PM |
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How do your "ROI" estimations look like if you receive your miners at 20th on October?
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September 16, 2013, 02:23:39 PM |
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How do your "ROI" estimations look like if you receive your miners at 20th on October?
Slightly worse that October 19th, slightly better than october 21st. </smartass> |
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September 16, 2013, 02:28:36 PM |
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Unrelated somewhat:
When solo mining, how do you know you've hit a block/won the lottery and should be expecting a 25btc payout soon?
I'd search but the connection I'm on is dying. Thanks for help/links.
sorry for interrupting but out of curiosity do you really think to go solo ? |
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September 16, 2013, 02:37:53 PM |
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While I have a small farm mining various coins, I figured whynot dedicate a USB miner or 2 to solo mining, which I have done over the weekend. Taking them offline isn't hurting my overall return, and since it's about 'playing the lottery' it can't hurt to try. Just another way to diversify the mining hobby.
So I'm just curious to know how to tell if you hit the lottery. I think it will show up as an accepted share, but I just wanted to confirm.
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Nemo1024
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September 16, 2013, 02:38:13 PM |
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At the current difficulty, going solo is possible with some luck and over 4TH/s of hashing power (about 8 Jupiters). Anything under that will produce too much variance and will probaly leave you without any coins. To answer your question: You will see it in Bitcoin-qt list of transactions as type "Mined". Unrelated somewhat:
When solo mining, how do you know you've hit a block/won the lottery and should be expecting a 25btc payout soon?
I'd search but the connection I'm on is dying. Thanks for help/links.
sorry for interrupting but out of curiosity do you really think to go solo ? |
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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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September 16, 2013, 02:39:53 PM |
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how did you calculate it to come to 4TH/s? thanks! At the current difficulty, going solo is possible with some luck and over 4TH/s of hashing power. Anything under that will produce too much variance and will probaly leave you without any coins. To answer your question: You will see it in Bitcoin-qt list of transactions as type "Mined". Unrelated somewhat:
When solo mining, how do you know you've hit a block/won the lottery and should be expecting a 25btc payout soon?
I'd search but the connection I'm on is dying. Thanks for help/links.
sorry for interrupting but out of curiosity do you really think to go solo ? |
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