Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Miz4r]

The growth seems to be accelerating still, if anything:

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.png

A solid 2.5% per day, which is +125% per month.

Perhaps the growth of the growth has tapered off a little but thats a bit meta to me and statistical noise at this point

Yes it is accelerating still, however the growth of the growth seems to have tapered off.  Maybe it's just me hoping and wishing too much.

Anything is an acceleration this is still very much the GPU transition. There was supposed to be a 130nm, and 65nm stage, but we all know how that went and who received the lion's share of that (specific companies themselves, delay tactics, lies, etc.). This is about to be the peoples' real ASIC revolution. Viva!

I don't think the people are gaining much from this. The profit lies with the companies selling the miners, not the people buying them as they can only pray for ROI.

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[soy]

So, there will be PCIE-8 connectors for 12vdc to the main board but does the Beaglebone take 5vdc?  Is there a 12v-5v switching down converter onboard or will the Beaglebone always require a separate 5vdc supply?  I can see how one might first apply the 5vdc, login, configure the miner, then fire up the 12vdc but an onboard converter would preclude two PSUs given the device can already have been configured.

The pci connections are 6 pin, not 8

Wonder if the PCI-6 connectors can take a pair of PCI-8's letting the extras overhang the ends.  Just got in some PCI-8 connectors as I'm going my own way with the 12vdc power supply.  I see the clips are centered and so if offset might not grasp the corresponding connector latching.

[scrawler]

The growth seems to be accelerating still, if anything:

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.png

A solid 2.5% per day, which is +125% per month.

Perhaps the growth of the growth has tapered off a little but thats a bit meta to me and statistical noise at this point

Yes it is accelerating still, however the growth of the growth seems to have tapered off.  Maybe it's just me hoping and wishing too much.

Anything is an acceleration this is still very much the GPU transition. There was supposed to be a 130nm, and 65nm stage, but we all know how that went and who received the lion's share of that (specific companies themselves, delay tactics, lies, etc.). This is about to be the peoples' real ASIC revolution. Viva!

I don't think the people are gaining much from this. The profit lies with the companies selling the miners, not the people buying them as they can only pray for ROI.

Agree!

[uski]

Hi,

I see people asking if 5V power is needed, here is an unedited email reply from KNC from a few weeks ago when I asked them about this :

Hi,
 
Our devices will require the correct amount of 12V 6 pin or 6 +2 pin PCI-E connectors depending on model, for example Mercury requires 1 PCI-E 6 pin or 6 +2 pin connectors, 2 connectors for Saturn and 4 for Jupiter.
 
There will also be one 5V connector on each miner for the controller board which will use minimal wattage.
 

So YES, the miners will require a 5V power in addition of the 12V PCIe connectors.

(and YES, it would be much better for me and a lot of people if they generated the 5V from the 12V; and NO, I don't think it would have been that hard, and I'm an electronic engineer - well, room for improvement in the next gen )

Hope this helps
uski

[Bitcoinorama]

The growth seems to be accelerating still, if anything:

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth.png

A solid 2.5% per day, which is +125% per month.

Perhaps the growth of the growth has tapered off a little but thats a bit meta to me and statistical noise at this point

Yes it is accelerating still, however the growth of the growth seems to have tapered off.  Maybe it's just me hoping and wishing too much.

Anything is an acceleration this is still very much the GPU transition. There was supposed to be a 130nm, and 65nm stage, but we all know how that went and who received the lion's share of that (specific companies themselves, delay tactics, lies, etc.). This is about to be the peoples' real ASIC revolution. Viva!

I don't think the people are gaining much from this. The profit lies with the companies selling the miners, not the people buying them as they can only pray for ROI.

Agree!

Pffft who is taking all the risk? The guys betting few $K, or the guys betting the chance they will never ever be allowed to run a business again with reputation as mud?! They have always stated they build a machine that spit coins, your bet is on BTC being taken as a legitimate currency in future. If you want to make big coin then innovate a means for mainstream use and adoption. Brain power trumps plugging in machines that print money. Margins there will always be squeezed by more affluent people once product prove safe to purchase and elec. is cheap. That's a no brainer.

Sorry to break it to you bro, but common sense dictates here...

[The Avenger]

Hi,

I see people asking if 5V power is needed, here is an unedited email reply from KNC from a few weeks ago when I asked them about this :

Hi,
 
Our devices will require the correct amount of 12V 6 pin or 6 +2 pin PCI-E connectors depending on model, for example Mercury requires 1 PCI-E 6 pin or 6 +2 pin connectors, 2 connectors for Saturn and 4 for Jupiter.
 
There will also be one 5V connector on each miner for the controller board which will use minimal wattage.
 

So YES, the miners will require a 5V power in addition of the 12V PCIe connectors.

(and YES, it would be much better for me and a lot of people if they generated the 5V from the 12V; and NO, I don't think it would have been that hard, and I'm an electronic engineer - well, room for improvement in the next gen )

Hope this helps
uski

I think this is what you guys are talking about, which was discussed a few weeks ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3125216;topicseen#msg3125216

[johnyj]

Thursday, Sept. 19, 2013 Shipping Update
by BFL_Jody  09-19-2013 at 09:01 PM

    Jalapenos 4.5 and 5 gh/s: Feb 17, 2013

    Little Singles 30 and 25 gh/s: Nov. 29, 2012

    Singles 60 and 50 gh/s: Nov 3, 2012 pay date

    MiniRigs: August 15 (1st 500 g/s units), July 24 orders (2nd 500 gh/s) and
    June 27 orders (3rd 500 gh/s unit)

MiniRigs delivery are still stuck at June 27. As long as those MiniRigs are being delivered, the hash rate will keep rising at least at the same pace

An ASIC mining rig is about 200 times more efficient than GPUs, I would be surprised if the total network hash power did not reach 4PH by the end of this transition

[Micky25]

I try to answer this with another post I made.

I bought 2 starter kits for August delivery and paid 1.000€ each, got them on September 4th and mined a bit more than 3 BTC with them until today. Two other investments are in limbo, one huge in semi-limbo with 20%, maybe 100% loss, waiting for refund, and the final two refunded after several months, one of them with 9% loss. All money I put in came from own labour.

So the BFSB investment is the only one, that actually brings me back something. And this makes me very, very happy. If I get a ROI? I do already! If I ever break even? Only time will tell  
I only know the product and the company behind it are rock solid, tell me one other this can be said of. Thats why I reinvested.

You paid 1 Euro for hashing machines?

That would have been a fantastic bargain. No, I live in a decimal comma country, for us 1.000 is one thousand and 1,000 one

[pixl8tr]

Hi,

I see people asking if 5V power is needed, here is an unedited email reply from KNC from a few weeks ago when I asked them about this :

Hi,
 
Our devices will require the correct amount of 12V 6 pin or 6 +2 pin PCI-E connectors depending on model, for example Mercury requires 1 PCI-E 6 pin or 6 +2 pin connectors, 2 connectors for Saturn and 4 for Jupiter.
 
There will also be one 5V connector on each miner for the controller board which will use minimal wattage.
 

So YES, the miners will require a 5V power in addition of the 12V PCIe connectors.

(and YES, it would be much better for me and a lot of people if they generated the 5V from the 12V; and NO, I don't think it would have been that hard, and I'm an electronic engineer - well, room for improvement in the next gen )

Hope this helps
uski

I was searching thru KNC data and FAQ, but was unable to find out if we need a separate Power-On jumper for the power supply, or is it integral to the Miner? 

[Micky25]

I try to answer this with another post I made.

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got them on September 4th and mined a bit more than 3 BTC with them until today.
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Is that all you mined?  I bought two starters, got them around the same time, but I've mined almost 16 coins.  I'm up to .52 BTC already today and it's still only 10:30 in the morning.  I should see another Slush and BTCG payout by the end of today, as well.
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So you mine around 1 BTC per day with 60-80 GH/s? There must be something terribly wrong with my setup then. Can there be other stuff you forgot about mining on these workers?  
Mind to tell me your hashrate?

[DigginDeep]

To Answer the question above.

I asked KNC about this and about there power specs, my questions and answers
" Couple quick questions.  Will we have to trick the power supply to turn on buy jumping the right pins?  Or will there be another solution for this?    Also the 1.6 W/GH/s  is this the average power consumption including all the fans and the Linux board?  Or is this just the consumption for the chip?  And is the 1.6 number just another safe maximum number to give  out?  And might be lower in the end product?  or is it fairly accurate?  And the miners should be at just that?

There response
"
Hi,

 

It will be necessary to trick the power supply to turn on by jumping the right pins. We are looking at possible solutions for this and we will provide more information as soon as possible. The 1.6W/GH/s is the maximal power consumption of the entire device, it is possible that it would be slightly lower.

 

Let us know if you have further questions.

 

Med vänlig hälsning  |  Best regardsKeith Gurnett  Kncminer

[Micky25]

wow, nice strategy. I'm on slush with quite constant 60 GH/s with 3 BF-H-cards. I get around 0.5 BTC daily at the moment. I see there is space for improvement, thank you 

[jeroenn13]

wow, nice strategy. I'm on slush with quite constant 60 GH/s with 3 BF-H-cards. I get around 0.5 BTC daily at the moment. I see there is space for improvement, thank you 

Are you mining on : mining.bitcoin.cz ?
Most I get is 0.3BTC / day with 60 GH.

[Micky25]

wow, nice strategy. I'm on slush with quite constant 60 GH/s with 3 BF-H-cards. I get around 0.5 BTC daily at the moment. I see there is space for improvement, thank you 

Are you mining on : mining.bitcoin.cz ?
Most I get is 0.3BTC / day with 60 GH.

I do, I had the 0.3 / day as well, before I found a little trick that made my hashing constant (before, the rate fell to trash every night). In the common sense that obviously roams around in the BTC world, I could pass this knowledge to you, in exchange for a small contribution of, lets say, 100 BTC?

or

just give it out (I use /60 not /10):

Someone may find this useful... If your pool reports your hashrate dropping regularly DESPITE bitfury admin showing steady noncerate:

1) ssh into your pi
2) run command: crontab -e
3) add this line at the end of file:

*/10    *       *       *       *       sudo /opt/bitfury/start-stratumproxy.sh

4) save & exit

It will restart your stratum proxy every 10 minutes from now on. If you want to cancel it, just run the command again and delete the line.

[-Redacted-]

And you can add another command to restart the miner by substituting "start-miner.sh" in place of "start-stratumproxy.sh" in a similar command.  I've heard that the falling off hash rate sometimes requires the miner to be restarted, too...

But this needs to move over the to the Bitfury support thread and out of KNC, I think.....

[spiccioli]

I just have a little mental issue with putting money in Josh's pocket mining on EMC, given the amount of money that BFL has screwed people out of....

I really find it unbelievable that people can keep mining on emc after reading a couple of random posts from inaba

Anyway, ozcoin has DGM as well.

spiccioli

[Anduck]

I bought two starters, got them around the same time, but I've mined almost 16 coins.  I'm up to .52 BTC already today and it's still only 10:30 in the morning.  I should see another Slush and BTCG payout by the end of today, as well.

73 Gh/s.  I run a few Block erupters, too.

Lies. No way you can make up to 16 coins with 2 starter kits. I assume you're running 3x h-boards. I myself are running 3 h-boards, totaling to 75 ghash. I received my boards in the very early days of shipments (days before you did) and I've not even made 10 btc yet.

[Micky25]

But this needs to move over the to the Bitfury support thread and out of KNC, I think.....

definitely. But isn't this thread a mishmash of (nearly) lost hopes already? 

I just have a little mental issue with putting money in Josh's pocket mining on EMC, given the amount of money that BFL has screwed people out of....

I really find it unbelievable that people can keep mining on emc after reading a couple of random posts from inaba

+1

[gateway]

So ideally, looks like we have at least 2 changes in diff coming before some of us first customers see our knc devices.. hmm its at 112mil now, and running a jup at 400 Gh/s right now nets you this:

The expected generation output, at 400 Ghps, given current difficulty of 112628548.66635 , is 1.78609844927 BTC per day and 0.0744207687197 BTC per hour.

.. so around 1.7 a day.. I remember when I first ordered this device it was at almost 7btc a day.. wow...

[demonmaestro]

And I am still kicking ya's butt with a wopping 333MH/s!