Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[canth]

Are those pics from KnC? Why would they break their well established image of professionalism with this "two amateurs building a datacenter" picture collection?

No, its my hand. I cut it on purpose, so I can post this picture.

Wilson!

[-Redacted-]

LOL...  Castaway...  Interesting movie...

[tarmi]

I know we've been over this before.  There's basically 3 groups of people, imho.  Day 1 production, day 2, and everyone else.

ASIC manufacturers - the ones that will make a ton of money

day 1 production - the ones that will see ROI

day 2 and everyone else - suckers

[Bitcoinorama]

Are those pics from KnC? Why would they break their well established image of professionalism with this "two amateurs building a datacenter" picture collection?

Sam and Andreas are IT architects, they've created datacentres for huge financial institutions for over a decade each. This is their specialty. I'd give them a little more credit than 'two amateurs'. The CS reps acting as builders are amateurs, but they look like they got their sh*t together and nailed it, or err...at least 'drilled it', and that out of focus corner in the background looks pretty damn spiteful to be fair.

[Meizirkki]

On the contrary - this looks more like a couple professionals building a data center.  People scream for pictures.  People get pictures.  People scream "how unprofessional".

pics where they actually do something are neutral to positive, but a bleeding hand? Really?

Fwiw, I'd be totally satisfied with zero pics published to date.

[vesperwillow]

On the contrary - this looks more like a couple professionals building a data center.  People scream for pictures.  People get pictures.  People scream "how unprofessional".  And you wonder why they don't release chip pictures?  All the armchair EEs would be trolling in a second.  Too big.  Too small.  Too many pins.  Should have done it differently.

Jesus, save us all from idiots, please...

+1

[Bitcoinorama]

On the contrary - this looks more like a couple professionals building a data center.  People scream for pictures.  People get pictures.  People scream "how unprofessional".

pics where they actually do something are neutral to positive, but a bleeding hand? Really?

Fwiw, I'd be totally satisfied with zero pics published to date.

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!!

[tarmi]

Cool, but can you please upload a video for the rest of us wit respect to it's performance? This is meant to be a community here and we'd all love to see some real user evidence.

It takes moments to do, mining isn't really something that keeps you too busy to not share evidence in a community burnt so many times before.

Again I've never had a bad word to say about Bitfury, all the evidence seems to suggest he has been exemplary, there is just a lot of praise and very little I dependant visual proof.

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!!

wow, demanding pics and videos of working Bitfury units for the sake of the "community that burnt so many times before" and praising KnC for posting some vague pictures of their data center 5 days before deadline...

that is a winner!

[Bitcoinorama]

Cool, but can you please upload a video for the rest of us wit respect to it's performance? This is meant to be a community here and we'd all love to see some real user evidence.

It takes moments to do, mining isn't really something that keeps you too busy to not share evidence in a community burnt so many times before.

Again I've never had a bad word to say about Bitfury, all the evidence seems to suggest he has been exemplary, there is just a lot of praise and very little I dependant visual proof.

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!!

wow, demanding pics and videos of working Bitfury units for the sake of the "community that burnt so many times before" and praising KnC for posting some vague pictures of their data center 5 days before october is a winner!

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Are you going to begrudge them enjoying themselves? You can see Marcus looks focused on the job at hand and that is blatantly a lot of hard work performed right there. If it wasn't a completed hosting facility i'd be concerned.

They say they are on time. They promised to give daily updates *if* they are late. I have no beef with them this side of September. If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned. So in the mean time, i'm all smiles and glad they enjoy their work. For those wanting Sam at his desk at nights, and weekends? Why?! He's waiting for the same things you are. Why drive yourself mad?

[jmw74]

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Are you going to begrudge them enjoying themselves? You can see Marcus looks focused on the job at hand and that is blatantly a lot of hard work performed right there. If it wasn't a completed hosting facility i'd be concerned.

They say they are on time. They promised to give daily updates *if* they are late. I have no beef with them this side of September. If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned. So in the mean time, i'm all smiles and glad they enjoy their work. For those wanting Sam at his desk at nights, and weekends? Why?! He's waiting for the same things you are. Why drive yourself mad?

That was what I noticed too.  These don't look like people who are behind schedule and bracing for lots of angry customers and refunds. 

The tone of those pictures probably says more about their ability to deliver than pictures of chips would.

[tarmi]

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Josh_BFL/Yifu are relaxed and happy in photos too. They are not hiding at all.

I dont blame them> if I were Yifu, I would be very relaxed and happy too.

If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned.

You mean if they dont ship by next monday? sorry, but hashing video is not good enough.

[soy]

Will we need a stratum-mining-proxy to avoid getwork penalties on Slush with KnC machines?  Would restarting the mining proxy hourly give a similar return improvement with KnC machines?  I don't think this would be hijacking the thread but for those who think it might, sorry.

cgminer (the software that KnC has said they are using) is fluent in Stratum.

no proxy needed

Will a PSU Tester like this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-20-24-Pin-PSU-ATX-SATA-HD-Power-Supply-Tester-/320615128503

do the trick and power on the miner?

That should work.
All they do is measure the voltages.


The testers that are _NOT_ apropriate for long term use are testers that test under load.
They make your power supply work hard to see if there are under load problems

They will get as hot as anything else that is consuming 500-1500 watts.

They typically cost LOTS more than the voltage measuring testers that people have posted.

EDIT: there are inexpensive 'load' testers that are to be AVOIDED for this application.
an example is here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899200003&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-PC+tools%2f+Testers-_-N82E16899200003&gclid=CP-kk8_d4LkCFeIRMwod4RcAOA

And here are a couple good power supply load tester pron links (for those interested in such things)
http://www.corsair.com/us/blog/load-testing-the-ax1200i-digital-atx-psu/
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article148-page1.html


YMMV


Soon!

Late last night in the wee  hours of the morning I realized KnC is using cgminer which has stratum+tcp://

[Bitcoinorama]

Nope they have till the other-side of the weekend. In the mean time, they look relaxed, happy, and unstressed.

From experience on this forum, most characters hide their faces, then when something goes wrong, or not to plan, they disappear, and hide. Do you get that impression from these photos? Or do you see a group of hardworking guys (and girl!) having fun? And most importantly getting shit done.

Josh_BFL/Yifu are relaxed and happy in photos too. They are not hiding at all.

I dont blame them> if I were Yifu, I would be very relaxed and happy too.

Sorry, where is Yifu exactly? He's been AWOL since July, his recent flyby's to announce he is not dead, do not count and don't install confidence, nor give any remote explanation as to WTF Bitsyncom have been playing at. Certainly giving refunds for monies used to bankroll his ventures don't cut it either.

If they produce no hashing video by next Monday, then they need to speak up. If they have no hashing video by a week or two after, then it's time to get concerned.

You mean if they dont ship by next monday? sorry, but hashing video is not good enough.

Tarmi, are you a KnC customer? I want my units, but if they are on the significant side of generosity with respect 400gh/s and a week late, I may just forgive, seeing as they are at the bequest of the packaging co, and couriers, esp. as the 30th falls directly next to a weekend.

[soy]

I plan to go to the bitcoin conference in Amsterdam between the 25-29th what is the chance that KNCMINER will ship while I am gone?
//DeaDTerra

Wonder if KnC will be represented at the Bitcoin conference in Atlanta Oct. 5th.

[Mota]

Cool, but can you please upload a video for the rest of us wit respect to it's performance? This is meant to be a community here and we'd all love to see some real user evidence.

It takes moments to do, mining isn't really something that keeps you too busy to not share evidence in a community burnt so many times before.

Again I've never had a bad word to say about Bitfury, all the evidence seems to suggest he has been exemplary, there is just a lot of praise and very little I dependant visual proof.

haha please, you may be, but those demanding pics, and pics, and pics, and trolls out for blood, well now they got it. Two birds killed with one stone!!

wow, demanding pics and videos of working Bitfury units for the sake of the "community that burnt so many times before" and praising KnC for posting some vague pictures of their data center 5 days before deadline...

that is a winner!

Man you are annyoing! they posted those pictures on their own forum, for their community and on topic for people who paid good (and a lot of) money for a professional datacenter.
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So these people have every right to praise those pics any way they want!
As for the comparison to the working Bitfury units - There was much talk about people having them and hashing and power consumption but no pictures. Do you see any-fucking-one here pretending to have a Unit or knowing the exact power specs? No? One wonders why the fuck you are here when all you do is point out that your "calculations"  tell you that everyone here except day one is a "sucker", bitcoinorama (who spent a lot of time and money to verify the veracity of the company for the community) is a "winner" and complain about KNC posting pictures of their datacenter being made ready for the miners 5 days before the "deadline".

I took the freedom to search for a definition for you:
deadline: the time by which something must be finished or submitted; the latest time for finishing something

So you said it yourself, they still have 5 days. It's fucking Monday 4PM in Sweden. Give them some time and just stfu if you have nothing productive or non-insulting to say.

[tarmi]

Sorry, where is Yifu?

I dont know, nor do I care. The point is that we all know what Josh/Yifu did last summer and they are still active, running businesses and all...
 

Tarmi, are you a KnC customer?

I will not answer, simply because that question has no relevance to the matter.

that is just like asking> bitcoinrama, are you on knc's pay list?

[Mota]

Sorry, where is Yifu?

I dont know, nor do I care.

Tarmi, are you a KnC customer?

I will not answer, simply because that question has no relevance to the matter.

that is just like asking> bitcoinrama, are you on knc's pay list?

With that Post - Welcome to my Ignorance Generates NOthing Relevant Ever - List!

[alfabitcoin]

Who is not on the following knc order list? Bitcoinorama, have you missed that thread? Please update all of you who missed it.... How many Jupiter and Saturn has KNC sold (estimate) for sep/oct delivery?
Can serve a lot for diff prediction.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=249065.0

[Bitcoinorama]

Sorry, where is Yifu?

I dont know, nor do I care. The point is that we all know what Josh/Yifu did last summer and they are still active, running businesses and all...

Yifu is not actively running any kind of a business. Come to think of it, neither is Josh, albeit he has some kind of product shipping, just apparently not out of the front door, but the back...

Tarmi, are you a KnC customer?

I will not answer, simply because that question has no relevance to the matter.

that is just like asking> bitcoinrama, are you on knc's pay list?

Nope, and I never have been, and I've stated this numerous times. They have asked me to work for them, which I have agreed to, if they prove a working product. Integrity wise I will not prior, and neither have I ever told anyone to purchase from them, or anyone else until such time as they have a working product, at which point i'd be a fool not to. I've only ever shared my own decisions, research and reasoning, and been straight the entire time. Booyah.

[vesperwillow]

I dont know, nor do I care. The point is that we all know what Josh/Yifu did last summer and they are still active, running businesses and all...

If by that you mean, Josh deleting threads and posts on the forums and claiming there's no issues and no complaints being filed.. then by all means, yes he is.