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September 30, 2013, 09:23:44 AM |
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Has KnC ever said this is a monolithic die, or possibly 4 (or more) dies in a package?
this what I thought the first time I saw the PCB
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September 30, 2013, 09:24:48 AM |
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I can understand why KNC staff is happy about being able to deliver (unlimited amount) of stuff that brought them a nice amount of money. Failing to understand why people here are happy for being confirmed to receive a product that will no longer give a positive ROI, while being unable to cancel their orders.
We don't know how they will deliver the units (regarding upping the Ghash/s). If they indeed do that, then it puts the competition on its heels. Not sure if it was rumors or not regarding the 400 Ghash/s units being 500+. I think that is what the industry is waiting for. The closest we have come was maybe the erupter pricing being lowered, but even then, they weren't profitable. It is going to take JUST ONE company to release a profitable (clearly) miner to upend the whole market. And that, will be messy but much needed. IAS
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arlekyn13
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September 30, 2013, 09:26:01 AM |
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"We have begun testing and initial results are good"
For some reason I don't feel much enthusiasm in their statement. I mean, it should mean good news, but still, some lack of enthusiasm. Waiting for figures though...
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September 30, 2013, 09:26:12 AM |
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6 Serial Ports, So i get two extra hashing units because we did not get it in September ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And offcourse because i did not bash you like many here ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) That would be 50% hashing speed increase for a Jupiter. Will they cut a chip in 2 and add one half of a chip to the Mercuries? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) No, they get one extra off course ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 30, 2013, 09:27:01 AM |
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6 Serial Ports, So i get two extra hashing units because we did not get it in September ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And offcourse because i did not bash you like many here ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Excuse my ignorance, but do the extra serial ports have anything to do with shipped hashing power (being extra) or? I wonder about the power of these units. Really, if KNCMiner wants to upend the industry (as I alluded to above), this would be how to do it. (Ship on time and with profitable units).
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September 30, 2013, 09:28:26 AM |
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It is going to take JUST ONE company to release a profitable (clearly) miner to upend the whole market. And that, will be messy but much needed.
It cant happen. If Hashfast/cointerra/whomever slash their prices to the point where its "clearly profitable", all that will result in is more orders than they could possibly deliver. Or if they somehow could deliver, even at those prices it would turn out to be no longer profitable because difficulty would shoot through the roof.
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September 30, 2013, 09:29:36 AM |
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6 Serial Ports, So i get two extra hashing units because we did not get it in September ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And offcourse because i did not bash you like many here ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Excuse my ignorance, but do the extra serial ports have anything to do with shipped hashing power (being extra) or? I wonder about the power of these units. Really, if KNCMiner wants to upend the industry (as I alluded to above), this would be how to do it. (Ship on time and with profitable units). One serial port for every hashing board. As far as i can see on the board tracks there all going to the same chip. So maybe 6 serials. But who knows what they are going to do with these ports
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September 30, 2013, 09:30:43 AM |
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Damn I think I recognized the background : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.themoscowtimes.com%2Fupload%2Fiblock%2F886%2Fclothes1.jpg&t=665&c=zUoTceiePEX7OQ) just kiddin'
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September 30, 2013, 09:34:55 AM |
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I can understand why KNC staff is happy about being able to deliver (unlimited amount) of stuff that brought them a nice amount of money. Failing to understand why people here are happy for being confirmed to receive a product that will no longer give a positive ROI, while being unable to cancel their orders.
this. they will be late for a week or two at best, and people here are celebrating.
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September 30, 2013, 09:35:14 AM |
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I need to see a top down view of their physical product photos to guage whether or not 6 modules would fit in one case. It looks like 6 wouldnt fit. Maybe they designed it this way in anticipation of v2 hardware which may make use of this main controllerboard.
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September 30, 2013, 09:35:26 AM |
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Competition is good.. now let's wait for CoinTerra.. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 30, 2013, 09:36:43 AM |
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6 Serial Ports, So i get two extra hashing units because we did not get it in September ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And offcourse because i did not bash you like many here ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Excuse my ignorance, but do the extra serial ports have anything to do with shipped hashing power (being extra) or? I wonder about the power of these units. Really, if KNCMiner wants to upend the industry (as I alluded to above), this would be how to do it. (Ship on time and with profitable units). One serial port for every hashing board. As far as i can see on the board tracks there all going to the same chip. So maybe 6 serials. But who knows what they are going to do with these ports The main PCB looks like it is prepared for a second bone. Plenty of mystery. EDIT spelling typo
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September 30, 2013, 09:40:26 AM |
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6 Serial Ports, So i get two extra hashing units because we did not get it in September ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And offcourse because i did not bash you like many here ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Excuse my ignorance, but do the extra serial ports have anything to do with shipped hashing power (being extra) or? I wonder about the power of these units. Really, if KNCMiner wants to upend the industry (as I alluded to above), this would be how to do it. (Ship on time and with profitable units). One serial port for every hashing board. As far as i can see on the board tracks there all going to the same chip. So maybe 6 serials. But who knows what they are going to do with these ports The main PCB looks like it is prepared for a secong bone. Plenty of mystery. yup. Methinks they might have the 2nd gen coming pretty soon.
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September 30, 2013, 09:41:32 AM |
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here is how we can still win the bitbet - Take out your jupiter at the airport or even there on site at knc...have it hashing with a cpu monitor and a screenshot of your worker dashboard that shows your a different address/pool I think we only need 5 confirmed units hashing and even if they are at the stockholm airport on the way back home...it would count wouldnt it? Needs 5 different local pickups to be able to do this...but thats a huge if and only if they get units up and hashing today!!!!!!!
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September 30, 2013, 09:44:07 AM |
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here is how we can still win the bitbet - Take out your jupiter at the airport or even there on site at knc...have it hashing with a cpu monitor and a screenshot of your worker dashboard that shows your a different address/pool I think we only need 5 confirmed units hashing and even if they are at the stockholm airport on the way back home...it would count wouldnt it? Needs 5 different local pickups to be able to do this...but thats a huge if and only if they get units up and hashing today!!!!!!!
Am I the only one checking each IP that reported a found block to see if it's a Swedish IP? Keep an eye there, tests are on-going as we speak ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 30, 2013, 09:47:12 AM |
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here is how we can still win the bitbet - Take out your jupiter at the airport or even there on site at knc...have it hashing with a cpu monitor and a screenshot of your worker dashboard that shows your a different address/pool I think we only need 5 confirmed units hashing and even if they are at the stockholm airport on the way back home...it would count wouldnt it? Needs 5 different local pickups to be able to do this...but thats a huge if and only if they get units up and hashing today!!!!!!!
I would not expect units ready for pickup today. Image your day1 unit is a pickup and you read 'boxes are ready now, pick them up!' while sitting 100's if not 1000's KM away in front of your screen.
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September 30, 2013, 09:48:38 AM |
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It is going to take JUST ONE company to release a profitable (clearly) miner to upend the whole market. And that, will be messy but much needed.
It cant happen. If Hashfast/cointerra/whomever slash their prices to the point where its "clearly profitable", all that will result in is more orders than they could possibly deliver. Or if they somehow could deliver, even at those prices it would turn out to be no longer profitable because difficulty would shoot through the roof. Anything can happen. It takes one company that can meet demand or at least put out enough to make things fair. Obviously if you are selling money printing machines you are going to need to set limits. To get the network more secure, it would be nice to allow more people access, instead of just selling to big pocketed people. Anything is possible, just need to have an open mind...
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September 30, 2013, 09:54:09 AM |
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It is going to take JUST ONE company to release a profitable (clearly) miner to upend the whole market. And that, will be messy but much needed.
It cant happen. If Hashfast/cointerra/whomever slash their prices to the point where its "clearly profitable", all that will result in is more orders than they could possibly deliver. Or if they somehow could deliver, even at those prices it would turn out to be no longer profitable because difficulty would shoot through the roof. Anything can happen. It takes one company that can meet demand or at least put out enough to make things fair. Obviously if you are selling money printing machines you are going to need to set limits. To get the network more secure, it would be nice to allow more people access, instead of just selling to big pocketed people. Anything is possible, just need to have an open mind... You dont get it. Plenty of miners seem to think current prices are "fair", or they wouldnt be buying. You expect a manufacturer to both lower their prices, and limit supply, only so that those miners would be guaranteed a profit (at their expense)? Get real.
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September 30, 2013, 09:54:57 AM |
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September 30, 2013, 09:55:57 AM |
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old picture. guys please, as I always said, just skim through the last few pages before posting.
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