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January 12, 2018, 07:38:00 AM

why did coinbase stop sending transactions?
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January 12, 2018, 07:44:48 AM

why did coinbase stop sending transactions?
Why don't coinbase guys know how to send txs in batches, that is the real question! (thx Hairy) They are making shit tons of money for the super heavy fees they are asking to people who are buying like if there's no tomorrow.
And yet people believe that if they have coins on that app they are real.
Mindblowing really
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January 12, 2018, 07:55:08 AM

Why is the price going down?  Cry

Doesn't the entire world want BTC, the money of the future?

Money that you cannot spend, or transfer to a friend, or experiment with, or really do anything with except HODL and make memes about future lambos.  

Lightning Network is coming any day now and then fees will be low and merchant adoption will sky rocket!  

Except that LN doesn't even work in theory and even ignoring that it would still takes years to bootstrap an entirely new network because that's what LN is -- an independent network to bitcoin.

I've had no issues what-so-ever spending Bitcoin in the past several months. Granted, I'm not trying to buy single glasses of wine with block chain transactions either... because I'm not an idiot. I do buy coffee though! Let me explain the process, it's simple. Buy one Amazon gift card for $2000 and then buy enough coffee to last me five years (I don't actually buy it all at once, I like fresh coffee). Transaction fees for five year's worth of coffee... a few bucks. Wow, layers already exist which make spending Bitcoins as easy as spending fiat. Imagine that, I don't need censorship-proof transactions every time I buy coffee... What a revelation! (Also, you can use the gift card for stuff other than coffee and there are lots of other vendors for which you can buy gift cards in case coffee isn't your thing.)

It's a damn shame that you can't intentionally refuse to see that putting every transaction under the sun on a ledger that all full verifying nodes (those that do not want to trust another party) must obtain and keep forever is a terrible, horrible idea. Have you ever tried to run any software which uses a database interacting with the Bitcoin block chain? Probably not, since we only need like what... 3 full nodes worldwide?

Acting like the recent decrease in Bitcoin's price has anything to do with scaling is disingenuous at best. Why is BCH worth less? Why isn't anyone using BCH (I sync a node to convert to BTC during BCH peaks, I see the amount of transactions, it's laughable)? Could someone at least run a bot to make it look like it's being used!  Finally... for the love of all things holy, BCH is supposed to go UP when Bitcoin goes down, not drop even faster... How will I ever convert the rest of this stuff if moves like every other garbage altcoin under the sun?

I'm probably wasting my time here... LN looks amazing, I don't know which articles you've been reading...


Did you keep your BCH, Holliday?

Are you SERIOUSLY asking why the price is going down? No. No way. You've been around far too many years to ask a real question like that.

So you are just trolling on here. But why? Why is a math guy, a scientist and coder on bitcointalk BITCOIN speculation main thread, trolling?

I mean if Core developers spent their time on r/btc I am sure you would have some choice words for them.

Shouldn't you be busy adding commits to bitcoinunlimited?
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January 12, 2018, 07:59:23 AM

At the current velocity, Janus will flippen Bitcoin within the next half hour.

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January 12, 2018, 08:05:23 AM

So you are just trolling on here. But why? Why is a math guy, a scientist and coder on bitcointalk BITCOIN speculation main thread, trolling?

You guys are complete noobs if you think BCH is bitcoin's biggest problem.  Bankers own the majority of ETH IPO, and by their constant market manipulation, you can tell they're always trying to fool people into make believing it's a hedge trade against BTC.  The amount of manipulation that goes into trying to pump Eth is 10x more than that of BTC.  So, while all cryptocurrencies are complete trash compared to physical silver or gold, and the bankers + CIA and other dipshits own huge amounts of all of these coins, their preference is for Eth to win since they own the most of it.

And Vinay "white genocide" Gupta can go get himself 1488'd.
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January 12, 2018, 08:14:27 AM

At the current velocity, Janus will flippen Bitcoin within the next half hour.



Warning : there are two faces to this coin. Cheesy
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January 12, 2018, 08:15:50 AM

So you are just trolling on here. But why? Why is a math guy, a scientist and coder on bitcointalk BITCOIN speculation main thread, trolling?

You guys are complete noobs if you think BCH is bitcoin's biggest problem.  Bankers own the majority of ETH IPO, and by their constant market manipulation, you can tell they're always trying to fool people into make believing it's a hedge trade against BTC.  The amount of manipulation that goes into trying to pump Eth is 10x more than that of BTC.  So, while all cryptocurrencies are complete trash compared to physical silver or gold, and the bankers + CIA and other dipshits own huge amounts of all of these coins, their preference is for Eth to win since they own the most of it.

And Vinay "white genocide" Gupta can go get himself 1488'd.


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January 12, 2018, 08:19:02 AM

Look at the drop in the mem pool when Coinbase stopped sending transactions.



Yeah

They should patch that thing on the production nodes written-at-a-tube style for a good laugh.

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January 12, 2018, 08:32:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVVDsIYJBQ_C7Bh_aI3ZMxQ
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January 12, 2018, 09:35:56 AM

Guys, i´m afraid i´m jinxing it. Sorry.

I admit, i don´t want bitcoin to go over 20000, because every time bitcoin rises remarkably, media (TV) awakes, and i see more and more countries wanting to ban exchanges and all that. We are a threat to their FIAT-system.
What do we do then ?

The other thing is: i´m not afraid to pay taxes, but how could i possibly explain the thousands of transactions, i made ? For example, i´m constantly lending (funding) some at Finex, thats thousands of transactions. Its not the money, that worries me, it´s the process to cash out.

It really is a nightmare, coming to your door soon !

And don´t tell me we´re here for the ideology, we´re here for the dosh, which still, at least for now, reigns the world.

If you are in Europe, you don't have to worry, you only pay tax when you exit to fiat. If you are in north America you can cash out in the Canadian ATM's.
I'm in it for both the ideology and the cash. If crypto for some reason crashes totally, I'll still mine my Bgold and bide my time. That would actually give the community time to develop a more mature environment with working P to P exchanges, good scaling capability, and everything else we need to be untouchable by governments.
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January 12, 2018, 10:02:02 AM

Guys, i´m afraid i´m jinxing it. Sorry.

I admit, i don´t want bitcoin to go over 20000, because every time bitcoin rises remarkably, media (TV) awakes, and i see more and more countries wanting to ban exchanges and all that. We are a threat to their FIAT-system.
What do we do then ?

The other thing is: i´m not afraid to pay taxes, but how could i possibly explain the thousands of transactions, i made ? For example, i´m constantly lending (funding) some at Finex, thats thousands of transactions. Its not the money, that worries me, it´s the process to cash out.

It really is a nightmare, coming to your door soon !

And don´t tell me we´re here for the ideology, we´re here for the dosh, which still, at least for now, reigns the world.

If you are in Europe, you don't have to worry, you only pay tax when you exit to fiat. If you are in north America you can cash out in the Canadian ATM's.
I'm in it for both the ideology and the cash. If crypto for some reason crashes totally, I'll still mine my Bgold and bide my time. That would actually give the community time to develop a more mature environment with working P to P exchanges, good scaling capability, and everything else we need to be untouchable by governments.

In Germany you have to pay taxes as soon as you sell your coins and also have profits > 600€, it doesn't matter if you get fiat, another coin or bananas for it.
So it's not only exit to fiat.
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January 12, 2018, 10:15:54 AM

In Germany you have to pay taxes as soon as you sell your coins and also have profits > 600€, it doesn't matter if you get fiat, another coin or bananas for it.
So it's not only exit to fiat.

Damned ... your where first Cheesy +1 ... in germany you pay tax for all things that looks like money or has any value. we as the tax masters of the world. 80% of the books about taxes are about the german tax system.

But one exception, if you hold your cryptos more than a year, you can sold it without pay any taxes. But if you sell this earlier, you have to pay with your own income tax rate. When you earn more than 66.000 Euro a year (in a job or from other things), you have to pay 48% on every cent you earn from selling cryptos.
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January 12, 2018, 10:25:41 AM

In Germany you have to pay taxes as soon as you sell your coins and also have profits > 600€, it doesn't matter if you get fiat, another coin or bananas for it.
So it's not only exit to fiat.

Damned ... your where first Cheesy +1 ... in germany you pay tax for all things that looks like money or has any value. we as the tax masters of the world. 80% of the books about taxes are about the german tax system.

But one exception, if you hold your cryptos more than a year, you can sold it without pay any taxes. But if you sell this earlier, you have to pay with your own income tax rate. When you earn more than 66.000 Euro a year (in a job or from other things), you have to pay 48% on every cent you earn from selling cryptos.

48%   Shocked

F that shit.

What stops one to "temporarily" emigrate to the UK and only pay 20% capital gains tax when selling?
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January 12, 2018, 10:38:16 AM

48%   Shocked

F that shit.

What stops one to "temporarily" emigrate to the UK and only pay 20% capital gains tax when selling?

This is quite difficult, because i have a job here where i earn most of my monthly incoming. so it doesn't make sense to migrate to the uk. And i am a HODLER, so i do not pay any taxes on bitcoins Cheesy
And the tax department can also decided, that your tax dept is here in Germany, ether your are in the uk or some where else. This mean, i get the tax i payed in the uk back and have to pay here more taxes. yeah ... our tax law is very complicated, and the tax departments have a quite lot of power here.
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January 12, 2018, 11:19:25 AM

Finally above 14000. Let's never dive under that, never ever!
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January 12, 2018, 11:37:54 AM

getting sick of these cheesy youtube pump videos 'everyone was talking about bitcoin at the casino today. whats with this bitcoin thing? is it a bubble? well i have 5 cars and bitcoin has risen 10,000,000% and I know these whales and let me tell you what they have to say...'
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January 12, 2018, 11:45:19 AM

hmm bullish time again.
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January 12, 2018, 11:45:35 AM

getting sick of these cheesy youtube pump videos 'whats with this bitcoin thing? is it a bubble? well i have 5 cars and bitcoin has risen 10,000,000% and I know these whales and let me tell you what they have to say...'

https://youtu.be/WabT1L-nN-E
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January 12, 2018, 11:52:22 AM

It must break 15000 to be truly bullish
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