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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
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>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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The Coinbase chart is %99.9 identical to the bitstamp chart. I don't see a problem. Maybe I am blind. Changing back and forth, it is the exact same chart.

So long as you take a constant reference not whatever chart suits a pov on the day its probably fair to use most major exchanges.   Bitfinex is the one I see referred to as being the biggest exchange and so some say most accurate because it has the most volume.   But we lack the benefit of centralised trading like the pricing on most instruments, its the nature of BTC that its split over many nations and time zones so I'm never sure exactly where the volume is most favouring.   It would be alot easier if we could point to certain volume at a price.   I dont really take the price seriously until its finishes the daily bar but as a trade that kinda sucks

I don't understand why so many members want to fight our long-referenced bitstamp... pretty much bitstamp became our king referenced exchange a bit prior to the GOX collapsed (in February 2014).  Sure, there was a period of time in which Bitfinex was gaining support as a potential contender, but that possibility got sucked up the ass both in terms of its utilization of margin trading, but it's August 2016 "hack" provided a final death knell to it, in terms of perceived reliability.

Even though Coinbase and even Gemini do tend to have similar price performances as Bitstamp, freuquently Coinbase loses credibility in the space because of the weird behaviors of Brian Armstrong, and nobody has really developed much of a liking to the Winkelvi twins, here or in broader bitcoin circles.

Anyhow, so my point is to get over it peeps.  Just use Bitstamp as a reference, and we are all on the same page and not confused about things, and it is not like Bitstamp is not a respected exchange in terms of serving as a real decent bellweather, even though it has consistently had smaller trade volume than some of the other exchanges - but it has not really had as many accusations of faking volume, either.  

Of course, if there is something special going on on some other exchange or you want to make some kind of point about disparities in BTC prices, arbitrage opportunities or some other point that is possibly relevant to exchange price differences (or happenings), then that is a separate deal that you should easily be able to accomplish through either pointing it out or through description.

Yes!  Everyone must use some exchange that very few actually get cash off.  Great idea/demand from the Altcurrency Bro!

PS:  Coinbase or Gemini is a better point of reference for most of us because we actually withdraw off them.  Bitstamp is a British exchange that is just now adding British Pounds?? https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-bitstamp-is-adding-uk-pound-to-funding-options  Very few people actually use Bitstamp to withdraw fiat.  Which is probably why Jay likes it as a price reference.
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August 11, 2019, 12:40:37 AM

You should order one drink at a time, so your ice doesn't melt into them as bad.

Don't let JayJuanGee bother you; he's been so consistently wrong it isn't even funny.  The only people that think JayJuanGee has any foresight at all are the people that read this thread for the first time and only read a small handful of his posts.

Shit eating trolls on both side of the fence! However, JayJuanGee isn't all bad, but he's a rude little Altcurrency cock sucker at times!

What are you smoking?  Did someone take over your account?

First, I don't tend to make predictions, but I do rag on posters for making predictions of certitude.  That has become a kind of hobby of mine.  So it is a bit harder to be wrong if you are merely criticizing the prediction certitudes of others.

I wonder where you are getting your information regarding my stance on alt currencies.  Seems that you could be mixing me up with someone else.  I don't tend to be too sympathetic to any alt-currencies, and especially attempts to pump or shill them in this thread or as a means to attempt to negate bitcoin, so you seem to be quite out there in your largely baseless shit-stirring observations.

Regarding your recommendation to order only one drink at a time that might be the best of your recommendations within that particular post, but maybe not for the reasons that you provided, - even though it might not be practical in all situations, either.

By the way, I had been watching the baby sell wall of a bit more than 150 BTC at $11,375 on stamp.  That sell wall has been there for all day or at least more than 10 hours.  It was just eaten in one swoop, yet I don't  know if there is much significance to that besides that it had happened quickly.
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August 11, 2019, 12:42:54 AM


The Coinbase chart is %99.9 identical to the bitstamp chart. I don't see a problem. Maybe I am blind. Changing back and forth, it is the exact same chart.

So long as you take a constant reference not whatever chart suits a pov on the day its probably fair to use most major exchanges.   Bitfinex is the one I see referred to as being the biggest exchange and so some say most accurate because it has the most volume.   But we lack the benefit of centralised trading like the pricing on most instruments, its the nature of BTC that its split over many nations and time zones so I'm never sure exactly where the volume is most favouring.   It would be alot easier if we could point to certain volume at a price.   I dont really take the price seriously until its finishes the daily bar but as a trade that kinda sucks

I don't understand why so many members want to fight our long-referenced bitstamp... pretty much bitstamp became our king referenced exchange a bit prior to the GOX collapsed (in February 2014).  Sure, there was a period of time in which Bitfinex was gaining support as a potential contender, but that possibility got sucked up the ass both in terms of its utilization of margin trading, but it's August 2016 "hack" provided a final death knell to it, in terms of perceived reliability.

Even though Coinbase and even Gemini do tend to have similar price performances as Bitstamp, freuquently Coinbase loses credibility in the space because of the weird behaviors of Brian Armstrong, and nobody has really developed much of a liking to the Winkelvi twins, here or in broader bitcoin circles.

Anyhow, so my point is to get over it peeps.  Just use Bitstamp as a reference, and we are all on the same page and not confused about things, and it is not like Bitstamp is not a respected exchange in terms of serving as a real decent bellweather, even though it has consistently had smaller trade volume than some of the other exchanges - but it has not really had as many accusations of faking volume, either.  

Of course, if there is something special going on on some other exchange or you want to make some kind of point about disparities in BTC prices, arbitrage opportunities or some other point that is possibly relevant to exchange price differences (or happenings), then that is a separate deal that you should easily be able to accomplish through either pointing it out or through description.

Yes!  Everyone must use some exchange that very few actually get cash off.  Great idea/demand from the Altcurrency Bro!

PS:  Coinbase or Gemini is a better point of reference for most of us because we actually withdraw off them.  Bitstamp is a British exchange that is just now adding British Pounds?? https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-bitstamp-is-adding-uk-pound-to-funding-options  Very few people actually use Bitstamp to withdraw fiat.  Which is probably why Jay likes it as a price reference.

It is not about what I like you diptwat.

I had been thinking that someone might have taken over your forum account, or maybe you just fell on your head?  Hm?
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August 11, 2019, 12:46:31 AM

It is not about what I like you diptwat.

I had been thinking that someone might have taken over your forum account, or maybe you just fell on your head?  Hm?

No, you're just so fucking painful to listen to that I decided to come chat here for the day!  No hacks or anything exciting Mr:
First, I don't tend to make predictions

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It is not about what I like you diptwat.

I had been thinking that someone might have taken over your forum account, or maybe you just fell on your head?  Hm?

No, you're just so fucking painful to listen to that I decided to come chat here for the day!  No hacks or anything exciting Mr:
First, I don't tend to make predictions

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O.k.

Fair enough regarding your not having had been taken over.  I will take you at your word, that you happen to have been an overlooked dweeb in reality and not merely someone else who does not belong in these here parts.  

I still don't understand exactly what kind of points you are attempting to make with your latest posts, except perhaps unable to control yourself and acting like one of those out of control troll/shills that just lose it and just start to spout out a bunch of quasi-incoherent nonsense for mere shits and giggles.  

It is not exactly a winning strategy to lose your cool on the interwebs, and not exactly a respected form of behavior in these here parts, but whatever, do as you wish.
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O.k.

I will take you at your word, that you are dweeb in reality and not someone else who does not belong.  

Thanks!

I still don't understand what kind of point you are attempting to make, except acting like one of those out of control troll/shills that just start to spout out a bunch of nonsense, for mere shits and giggles.

You clearly missed the point.  

My point is you're Shitcoiner at heart that sits here day in and day out (paid or not paid... who knows) just to throw shit on people because of your own insecurities about your investments... just like so many other Altcoiners I've seen through the years.  At the end of the day, it's all Altcurrency if it isn't fiat at this point.

I just find it eerily similar how the 100% Bitcoin people & the 100% altcoin people act.  Personal attacks, threating, and the list goes on as observed in Jay's posts.

Not exactly a respected form of behavior in these here parts, but whatever, do as you wish.

Ooooooo are they going to spank me, take away my birthday and ground me from Bitcoin for pointing out how full of shit you are? Kiss Wink

Ty for giving me permission to do what I want, that is really sweet of you.

It is not exactly a winning strategy to lose your cool on the interwebs

I'm cool as a cucumber over here!  Cool Cheesy

Bitcoin headed to $5,000! (staying on topic)

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.... and just start to spout out a bunch of quasi-incoherent nonsense for mere shits and giggles.  

...................... and not exactly a respected form of behavior in these here parts, but whatever, do as you wish.


I guess I'm not respected in these here parts then ....

 (I know, I know... I appended your post.... but you know me by now , all just for mere shits and giggles Cheesy Grin)

(albeit, hopfully I didnt phuk up the quote attribution this time Cheesy)
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My point is you're Shitcoiner at heart that sits here day in and day out (paid or not paid... who knows) just to throw shit on people because of your own insecurities about your investments... just like so many other Altcoiners I've seen through the years.  At the end of the day it's all Altcurrency at this point.



wait...what???


I hate JJG as much as the next guy, but he is among the most adamant Bitcoin maximalists on the thread, with a loooooooooooooooooooooong post history to back it up.

Your credibility...it isn't.
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You clearly missed the point.  

My point is you're Shitcoiner at heart that sits here day in and day out (paid or not paid... who knows) just to throw shit on people because of your own insecurities about your investments...

Largely, I am reading and talking about a topic that is interesting to me.  I don't see how that rises to a level of having investment insecurities.  I have outlined my position a decent number of times - at least to the extent that it might be relevant to any topic at issue or one that I want to bring up.


just like so many other Altcoiners I've seen through the years.  At the end of the day it's all Altcurrency at this point.

Are you calling bitcoin an alt currency?  Otherwise, you are making little sense in terms of where I have tended to post and what I have tended to post about.  You can go back to my first posts, if you like, I largely posted in this thread and rarely posted about anything beyond bitcoin, except maybe to counter-argue against altcoin shills or people attempting to bash bitcoin through their discussion of altcoins.


I just find it eerily similar how the 100% Bitcoin people & the 100% altcoin people act.  

Probably, you are reading too much into the matter, or maybe trying to pump your own bullshit attempts at convoluting matters that should not be that difficult to comprehend... so, in other words, whatever stupid ass pattern you are striving to find seems a bit conjectured rather than something that really exists.

And, by the way, who gives any shits what I think anyhow?  I am just one poster on the interwebs.  You feel some kind of need to focus your fabricated phoney baloney on me, for some strange reason?


Personal attacks, threating, and the list goes on as observed in Jay's posts.


Yes, and your focus on me likely says a whole hell of a lot more about yourself than it does about me.  You want to conjure up some kind of conspiracy nonsense?  Get real, and get a life, BayAreaCoins, to the extent that you are not getting paid for this way of devolving into irrelevance and attempts to derail meaningful discussions in this thread.

Not exactly a respected form of behavior in these here parts, but whatever, do as you wish.
Ooooooo are they going to spank me, take away my birthday and ground me from Bitcoin for pointing out how full of shit you are? Kiss Wink

Maybe you will become more popular?  Do you think I give any shits about whether you feel some kind of uncontrolled inclination to behave like a troll/shill with nonsensical focuses?

Ty for giving me permission to do what I want, that is really sweet of you.

[humble brag]   I must admit that you got me there.  I do happen to be unable to control the emoting of some of my really sweet moments, from time to time. [/humble brag]

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It is not exactly a winning strategy to lose your cool on the interwebs

I'm cool as a cucumber over here!  Cool Cheesy

Bitcoin headed to $5,000! (staying on topic)



Oh.. you added the cute waving bear, after I had already made my earlier response in order to show how cool you happen to be, and maybe also to show that you are like jonoiv or one of the other nutjobs who sold too many BTC too early, so you are waiting for some kind of decent "down before up." 

Sure you might get lucky with some down before up, but really hoping for or expecting $5k seems a bit much at this time, especially given recent BTC price dynamics, and she seems quite reluctant to go down, for some strange reason. 

Of course, your chances for $8,500 or lower would be better than $5k, but even that $8,500 seems far from a given at this time, and you would even be lucky to have much better than 50/50 odds for sub $8,500, at this point... yet I will admit that your odds will become a lot better, if we could get below $9,200 first.
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.....

I hate JJG as much as the next guy, .....


Wait, what?...you hate jjg??  
Oh come on now... This is the wob brotherhood dude!
You mean you hate to love him, right?..not maybe vice versa...Like yogi...
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.... and just start to spout out a bunch of quasi-incoherent nonsense for mere shits and giggles.  

...................... and not exactly a respected form of behavior in these here parts, but whatever, do as you wish.


I guess I'm not respected in these here parts then ....

 (I know, I know... I appended your post.... but you know me by now , all just for mere shits and giggles Cheesy Grin)

(albeit, hopfully I didnt phuk up the quote attribution this time Cheesy)

Yeah, but context, sirazimuth.  I was largely responding to BayAreaCoins.  From my thinking, he seems to have devolved into a kind of emotional nutcase, or maybe he just needs attention - even though surely such emotional devolution could happen to any one of us at any time.
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And on a completely different subject,
One of these days I'm gonna figure out why my avatar renders upside down on my pc  (I'm actually wearing my hat (and shades), btw, in case no one noticed)
but right side up on my mobile device.
Phukking weird... like me, I suppose...
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And, by the way, who gives any shits what I think anyhow?  I am just one poster on the interwebs.

Exactly.  You're a fucking nobody.  Remember that.  My job is done!  Kiss

From my thinking, he seems to have devolved into a kind of emotional nutcase

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.....

I hate JJG as much as the next guy, .....


Wait, what?...you hate jjg??  
Oh come on now... This is the wob brotherhood dude!
You mean you hate to love him, right?..not maybe vice versa...Like yogi...

My tentative theory is that jo-squared has an irresistible urge to throw out the word "hate" when it comes to my avatar, and he feels a lot of resentment that if he gives up his own animated avatar for a Homer W.O. 2.0 avatar then he will never be able to rock an animated avatar, ever again.

Such animated avatar is eating him from the inside out, but he doesn't want to admit it.. therefore he throws out words like "hate," when many of his internet "friends" realize that an intervention is in order.

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And, by the way, who gives any shits what I think anyhow?  I am just one poster on the interwebs.

Exactly.  You're a fucking nobody.  Remember that.  My job is done!  Kiss

From my thinking, he seems to have devolved into a kind of emotional nutcase

 Roll Eyes



Exactly.. your job was done before you even started (in other words, you have not accomplished anything beyond littering the thread), and now running off like some troll/shill dweeb that stirs as much shit as s/he/it can get away with, and then scooters out with tails between legs.  Poor lil tingle-leee.   Cry  



Gonna miss you. **   Cry                                                                                                               Not.  



**By the way, I already been around this thread long enough to know that troll/shills like you promise to leave, but never can quite bring themselves to part ways.  Too much pride or something, and want to muddy up the thread with their continued garbage-filled irrelevant distractions.  So, yeah, I am not so hopeful that you are actually telling the truth about your alleged exit proposal.
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I also want to thank ~, Jesus Christ, of course the big man upstairs,....

Jesus Christ and the upstairs sky fairy....
oookaay then...

Nope, not even gonna go there.....

You're not American so I don't expect you to catch the reference, but I'm more or less mimicking the style of acceptance speech given by someone who just won a grammy, oscar, emmy, etc.

I forget who it was, but there was some comedian who said, "You never hear somebody thank 'the man downstairs,' for their award, the devil." And then Christian Bale did thank Satan one time for providing him with the inspiration to play Dick Cheney.
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Dont get caught up on interweb arguments, a good point stands up by itself.   Everybody is somebody, I dont appreciate anyone saying different tbh   Undecided



Using Bitstamp chart is no big deal, I use it every day.    Bitfinex chart is somehow where I have more squiggly lines but it doesnt exactly make much difference at this point.   I mean to change to tradingview as Bitcoinwisdom fell over and didnt get back up but I dont take estimations too seriously, its only really in conjunction with news and other views.

Surely the source only matters much on daily or weekly views going a long time.   The exact price I dont worry about too much, it varies everywhere.   Its mostly about the attitude of our progress and likely positive or negative trend.




Little fragments wont matter that its Bitstamp, its not contradicted elsewhere.   We have price trying to find support but also I find it to be negative and has been in slow descent since Aug 4th when BTC bumped its head on the old uptrend going back to April.


Tradingview needs a neon or mint colour scheme  Embarrassed   but lots of bitstamp charts:  https://www.tradingview.com/#search-charts=BITSTAMP:BTCUSD
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