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[d_eddie]

I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but Windows 10 isn't so bad.

Granted, I "modified" my OS so it doesn't auto update, and turned off all the suspect "malware / spyware". I confirmed it with network tools and wireshark and ethernet sniffers. Nothing in or out (not even encrypted unless I was using tor or a VPN).

Of course, I don't use IE. I just use Windows as the OS, everything else is an app ... firefox, bitcorns, gpg ... all free too. Got the license from school.

I'm still steering clear of Win 10 too, but finding good Win7 laptops (or desktop hardware with compatible drivers) is getting harder and harder. Do you have any pointers to good cleanup/securing routines?
Thanks for the help!

Edit: maybe the xvitaly thingy posted by NiceSoft12?

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[Searing]

I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but Windows 10 isn't so bad.

Granted, I "modified" my OS so it doesn't auto update, and turned off all the suspect "malware / spyware". I confirmed it with network tools and wireshark and ethernet sniffers. Nothing in or out (not even encrypted unless I was using tor or a VPN).

Of course, I don't use IE. I just use Windows as the OS, everything else is an app ... firefox, bitcorns, gpg ... all free too. Got the license from school.

I'm still steering clear of Win 10 too, but finding good Win7 laptops (or desktop hardware with compatible drivers) is getting harder and harder. Do you have any pointers to good cleanup/securing routines?
Thanks for the help!

Edit: maybe the xvitaly thingy posted by NiceSoft12?

Windows 10 1709 major update...auto downloaded and wiped my windows machine back to default (new computer id mode) and all apps came up as saying it was a NEW windows

OS . also wiped out all my folder arrangments on main screen to default

was a real pain.....so I do an update before moving ANY crypto on a wallet...could you imagine sending coin and then have your computer reset at that point on an auto update

be cautious with this windows and your wallets boys and girls

[d_eddie]

I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but Windows 10 isn't so bad.

Granted, I "modified" my OS so it doesn't auto update, and turned off all the suspect "malware / spyware". I confirmed it with network tools and wireshark and ethernet sniffers. Nothing in or out (not even encrypted unless I was using tor or a VPN).

Of course, I don't use IE. I just use Windows as the OS, everything else is an app ... firefox, bitcorns, gpg ... all free too. Got the license from school.

I'm still steering clear of Win 10 too, but finding good Win7 laptops (or desktop hardware with compatible drivers) is getting harder and harder. Do you have any pointers to good cleanup/securing routines?
Thanks for the help!

Edit: maybe the xvitaly thingy posted by NiceSoft12?

Windows 10 1709 major update...auto downloaded and wiped my windows machine back to default (new computer id mode) and all apps came up as saying it was a NEW windows

OS . also wiped out all my folder arrangments on main screen to default

was a real pain.....so I do an update before moving ANY crypto on a wallet...could you imagine sending coin and then have your computer reset at that point on an auto update

be cautious with this windows and your wallets boys and girls

I know setting your main net connection to "metered" can stop the automatic loading and applying of updates if you set that option ("Don't update over metered connections", or something like that).

I think there is some fairly established procedure to sanitize Windows 10 into something resembling a loyal OS, but the sources are many and the devil is in the details. That's why I asked Dabs, who seems to know quite a bit about this, to give us some pointers before we switch to the Dark Side (all Windoze users will have to, one gloomy day. Myself included, sigh sigh.)

[Paashaas]

Poor Americans paying so much money to Uncle Sam 

[bitserve]

Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?

Maybe because it's paid with/sold for BTC and not fiat?

Maybe that's his point. Still look as a taxable event to me. Fiat has nothing to do with it. You can just exchange a car with someone for another car and it will be a taxable event for the "equivalent fiat market value". That applies even to smallish things like i.e. bikes, books, vinyl records, etc... except noone cares about reporting those.

[d_eddie]

Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?

Maybe because it's paid with/sold for BTC and not fiat?

Maybe that's his point. Still look as a taxable event to me. Fiat has nothing to do with it.

Yes, it is by the new rules 

[Meuh6879]

I think there is some fairly established procedure to sanitize Windows 10 into something resembling a loyal OS, but the sources are many and the devil is in the details.

1) stop windows update service (only reactivate when you install devices ... and desactivate after a reboot).

2) stop windows malware search.

3) done.

point 1 is the same for Win8 actually ... when an update can WIPE OUT the PC at factory reset (many problems like this and Win10 follow the same route because of massive update for drivers ... incompatibles drivers from Windows Update !!!).

[txtravwill]

Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?

Maybe because it's paid with/sold for BTC and not fiat?

Maybe that's his point. Still look as a taxable event to me. Fiat has nothing to do with it.

Yes, it is by the new rules 

Yeah, if your a "coin trader" then will be a big deterrent now, could still manage and make money though off altcoin/BTC trading, etc.  

Do you think it will have more of reduction in altcoin trading and investment?  Seems like people may want to get into something larger more stable and sit versus potentially trade in something even more volatile than Bitcoin.  Thinking perhaps in early 2018 or here at very end of 2017 there may be some rush of funds back into BTC.

[Meuh6879]

Maybe that's his point.
Still look as a taxable event to me.
Fiat has nothing to do with it.
You can just exchange a car with someone for another car and it will be a taxable event for the "equivalent fiat market value".
That applies even to smallish things like i.e. bikes, books, vinyl records, etc... except noone cares about reporting those.

that's why i'm not agree about that : State have VAT (20% in my country).
I don't agree to be tax target for exchange flux.

and by the way, the State use 20% of the economy to finance ?
No ! They use debt !!!

that's it : State can not be represent more than 20% of the economy.

[MelMan2002]

Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?

Maybe because it's paid with/sold for BTC and not fiat?

Maybe that's his point. Still look as a taxable event to me. Fiat has nothing to do with it.

Yes, it is by the new rules  

Yeah, if your a "coin trader" then will be a big deterrent now, could still manage and make money though off altcoin/BTC trading, etc.  

Do you think it will have more of reduction in altcoin trading and investment?  Seems like people may want to get into something larger more stable and sit versus potentially trade in something even more volatile than Bitcoin.  Thinking perhaps in early 2018 or here at very end of 2017 there may be some rush of funds back into BTC.

This is why all American "coin traders" should move to Puerto Rico ASAP - can't beat 0% taxes

http://www.portocapital.com/puerto-rico-act-22-tax-incentives-legislations-individual-investors-act/

[d_eddie]

I think there is some fairly established procedure to sanitize Windows 10 into something resembling a loyal OS, but the sources are many and the devil is in the details.

1) stop windows update service (only reactivate when you install devices ... and desactivate after a reboot).

2) stop windows malware search.

3) done.

point 1 is the same for Win8 actually ... when an update can WIPE OUT the PC at factory reset (many problems like this and Win10 follow the same route because of massive update for drivers ... incompatibles drivers from Windows Update !!!).

Thanks, Meuh6879!

So with a startup script to stop the update and malware search services we should be good.

I think there was more to it though. The sites I visited (just for my own preventive information) after Win10 came out usually listed a dozen points. Maybe it had to do with Cortana and other data-hungry little daemons?

[flynn]

I was expecting a uptrend from people collecting upcoming forks. 

https://quantco.in/ifo/btc

Regarding these forks, am I wrong or you can't get access to any of these new chains ? No working wallets are available (except the old ones, BCH, BTG, ...)

[Enjel]

Buying and selling dash is not a taxable event for you? How is that?

Maybe because it's paid with/sold for BTC and not fiat?

Maybe that's his point. Still look as a taxable event to me. Fiat has nothing to do with it.

Yes, it is by the new rules  

Yeah, if your a "coin trader" then will be a big deterrent now, could still manage and make money though off altcoin/BTC trading, etc.  

Do you think it will have more of reduction in altcoin trading and investment?  Seems like people may want to get into something larger more stable and sit versus potentially trade in something even more volatile than Bitcoin.  Thinking perhaps in early 2018 or here at very end of 2017 there may be some rush of funds back into BTC.

This is why all American "coin traders" should move to Puerto Rico ASAP - can't beat 0% taxes

http://www.portocapital.com/puerto-rico-act-22-tax-incentives-legislations-individual-investors-act/

Pretty sure PR doesn't have internet in most areas after this hurricane.

[d_eddie]

This is why all American "coin traders" should move to Puerto Rico ASAP - can't beat 0% taxes

http://www.portocapital.com/puerto-rico-act-22-tax-incentives-legislations-individual-investors-act/

Pretty sure PR doesn't have internet in most areas after this hurricane.

I think you can have PR residency and operate remotely from another location.

[arklan]

Ok, ok. I'm awake... And... Wrong about the price recovering by now. Good call torque.

[d_eddie]

Ok, ok. I'm awake... And... Wrong about the price recovering by now. Good call torque.

It's not that Torque's paranoid.
It's that they're out to get us!

[Torque]

Ok, ok. I'm awake... And... Wrong about the price recovering by now. Good call torque.

It's not that Torque's paranoid.
It's that they're out to get us!

Nah, they're not out to get us. Because the idea of false flag events being perpetrated by the U.S. government against it's own people is absurd and nothing but conspiracy nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
https://crowdsondemand.com/

Just like everything negative the MSM prints about Bitcoin is 100% accurate and true. Because they're trying to save you from yourself, can't you see? No one that has ever put money into Bitcoin has benefited from it, just look at the 8 year chart.

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we're still going pretty much sideways, exactly where we were 5 days ago and 3 days ago... currently $14390USD/$18120CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins are currently worth $17280USD/$21765CAD each (Coinmarketcap).

Oh? Korea "banned Bitcoin"? Ho hum.

Yawn.

[bitserve]

Maybe that's his point.
Still look as a taxable event to me.
Fiat has nothing to do with it.
You can just exchange a car with someone for another car and it will be a taxable event for the "equivalent fiat market value".
That applies even to smallish things like i.e. bikes, books, vinyl records, etc... except noone cares about reporting those.

that's why i'm not agree about that : State have VAT (20% in my country).
I don't agree to be tax target for exchange flux.

and by the way, the State use 20% of the economy to finance ?
No ! They use debt !!!

that's it : State can not be represent more than 20% of the economy.

Well, trades are except from VAT.

If you think about it, states do not represent 20%... it is more like 80%. It's the same money moving around and them getting a bite at each taxable event. In the end, most of the economy gets into the State funds. That wouldn't be that bad if all that money were optimally managed... but most of it just get WASTED. That's what gets me particularly angry.-

[philip2000uk]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we're still going pretty much sideways, exactly where we were 5 days ago and 3 days ago... currently $14390USD/$18120CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins are currently worth $17280USD/$21765CAD each (Coinmarketcap).

Oh? Korea "banned Bitcoin"? Ho hum.

Yawn.

Not really that bad, news just making it sound bad to make btc plummet i think

"South Korea, which is one of the biggest markets in the world for bitcoin, said it was preparing a ban on opening anonymous cryptocurrency accounts and new legislation to enable regulators to close coin exchanges if they felt there was a need to do so."