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[realr0ach]

But the thing is, he probably is though. He's got a Steemit account and it's documented that he's funneling his proceeds to Bitfinex to trade.  

He's just a fkn troll trader. Probably doesn't even give a shit about silver, he's just trying to a create a bullshit troll persona on this WO thread.

I wouldn't trade on Bitfinex using your money, let alone my own.  The #1 rule of trading is to avoid a sizeable drawdown to wipe out your base, and that's definitely occurring on Bitfinex at some point soon.  As for metals, they're the only asset on earth that's not a part of the everything bubble and at historical lows compared to all other metrics like US debt, stocks, etc, making them the only asymmetric trade around.  

Metals had over a 90% correlation with US debt levels until they rigged interest rates low to try and facilitate NIRP/ZIRP (which is a failure anyway).  They can only keep them at this level for so long.  It's 100% invevitable gold will go to around $2500 in current purchasing power, with silver going to something like a 30:1 ratio of that in the bull run to get there ($75-85) in the near future.  If 1970's inflation occurrs, and it probably will because they have to try and debase the debt or it implodes, metals will get an additional +10x off that just like last time (probably more since inflation would likely be even higher when it eventually comes).

Then you have factors like the death of the petrodollar or them needing to revalue metals to extinguish the unserviceable debt if they can't do it with inflation, which will also give you retarded profits.  There's just no good investment on the planet right now except metals.  Bitcoin has zero fundamentals and thus zero value because they're all designed to centralize permissioned ledgers - invalidating any value prospect since it's value is supposed to be "decentralization".

[d_eddie]

About cucks.

The word "cuck" has nothing to do with polyamorism. I think it denotes males who get excited when they see their woman engage in sex with other men.

I've known two such guys who wanted me to get it on with their lady. One was embarrassingly insistent. This guy was hoping to step in and have a threesome actually. I had to turn him down in a cold, unfriendly manner. The other guy was shy bordering on ashamed, and sent his woman to discuss the matter. I turned that down too, but gently. I later talked alone to the lady (who was my ex), and I suggested the two of us could make a tape for him. We met in private, but the event wasn't taped in the end  

The use of "cuck" as an insult statistically indicates one or more of the following: sexual insecureness, racism, moderate right wing conservatism, fascism, ignorance, protracted adolescence.

[realr0ach]

First a strange article https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ftm.nl%2Fartikelen%2Fing-tether-miljardenfraude-cryptomunten%3Fshare%3D1
Money trail billions fraud with crypto coins leads to ING

Sounds legit to me:

"They have used tether to keep the bitcoin course artificially high and so more suckers withdraw the game."

Wouldn't want any retarded goyim buying real money like silver or gold when Comex is already in a state of technical default forwarding EFP contracts to London.  Let's try to get them to buy imaginary, valueless tokens instead!

[d_eddie]

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

[JayJuanGee]

Many many words...

+10 WOsMerits  

Somewhere back we where having a delightful conversation...its buried and half forgotten.  
*Hugs*   ....moving forward.

Ditto...

It's like nothing happened, until we get into another BIG HUGE fight, and then at that time, any kind of historical (or hysterical) remnant, whether true or not, will become fair ammunition.  

Projecting our future:

Stap. You're supposed to hate each other for having differences in opinion. Have you learned nothing from politics?

Sometimes it does not matter.  Just want to vent.

[Toxic2040]

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

+10 WOsMerits

*edit*
JJG     

 

[thrax]

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

No sorry the mods can't do that. I remember serious legal threats on another forum when a mod actually altered someone else's post.

[JayJuanGee]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=149230;sa=showPosts
TERA's old account is in use again. stolen?

The writing style does not seem like Tera..... I suppose that the account may have been sold?    She can report that, and maybe admins will freeze usage account?  but if they have no way of verifying who is the real Tera, then they might let it keep operating with the new owner... then we might get a publicly displayed battle between Tera and Tera2, perhaps?

[thrax]

The TERA account is definitely not the real Tera now.  They can barely speak English. Real Tera was quite articulate.

I doubt the real Tera would be posting in the booby coin thread like in this October post from the TERA account.

Well, it sounds pretty funny. Although it is clear that no one needs such currency. Although boobs are needed by everyone. This is a dilemma ...

[d_eddie]

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

No sorry the mods can't do that. I remember serious legal threats on another forum when a mod actually altered someone else's post.

I suspected it would be impossible.
We could insta-quote jbreher, then, for posterity and historical documentation.
The necessary edits could be carried out in the quote by us - simple posters, not the moderator.
The moderators could simple come in for a little cleanup after that - which would not be censorship, since the post would have already been quoted... O:-)

Maybe nasty, OK. But this is supposed to be a bitcoin forum after all. That sneaky language is a bit sickening.

[realr0ach]

jbreher's contributions

Fact #1:  Lightning Network is useless to make bitcoin mainstream and have people use it for day to day transactions, but it would create bitcoin banks on the blockchain, morphing into a hub and spoke model replicating the already existing centralized banking system.

Fact #2:  On-chain scaling is also useless because bitcoin is a currency, not money.  It's value is derived from transaction flow, not stock.  On-chain scaling is inherently a settlement system, and bitcoin is useless and valueless as a settlement system because far superior store of value settlement systems already exist like gold and silver whose value is based on stock, not flow.

So what exactly is Jbreher's contributions besides lying to people and trying to con them into buying this useless garbage instead of metals?  Bitcoin is useless as both a settlement system (money) and currency.  It's also designed to centralize, thus invalidating it's entire value prospect in the first place.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=149230;sa=showPosts
TERA's old account is in use again. stolen?

The writing style does not seem like Tera..... I suppose that the account may have been sold?    She can report that, and maybe admins will freeze usage account?  but if they have no way of verifying who is the real Tera, then they might let it keep operating with the new owner... then we might get a publicly displayed battle between Tera and Tera2, perhaps?

Perhaps some DT members would flag the Tera account if admins won't recover it.

[thrax]

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

No sorry the mods can't do that. I remember serious legal threats on another forum when a mod actually altered someone else's post.

I suspected it would be impossible.
We could insta-quote jbreher, then, for posterity and historical documentation.
The necessary edits could be carried out in the quote by us - simple posters, not the moderator.
The moderators could simple come in for a little cleanup after that - which would not be censorship, since the post would have already been quoted... O:-)

Maybe nasty, OK. But this is supposed to be a bitcoin forum after all. That sneaky language is a bit sickening.

I'm not certain it's illegal, but the reddit CEO made international headlines for doing it.


https://www.tweaktown.com/news/55094/reddit-ceo-caught-editing-posts-replacing-moderators/index.html


http://www.smh.com.au/technology/web-culture/reddit-ceo-admits-to-editing-users-posts-amid-protrump-troll-attacks-20161127-gsyssz.html


https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/reddit-ceo-admits-editing-pro-trump-posts-article-1.2888933

[thrax]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=149230;sa=showPosts
TERA's old account is in use again. stolen?

The writing style does not seem like Tera..... I suppose that the account may have been sold?    She can report that, and maybe admins will freeze usage account?  but if they have no way of verifying who is the real Tera, then they might let it keep operating with the new owner... then we might get a publicly displayed battle between Tera and Tera2, perhaps?

Perhaps some DT members would flag the Tera account if admins won't recover it.

There's no negative feedback at all left for it. I expected at least tera's new account would have left some feedback to say it's a hacked account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=149230

[JayJuanGee]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=149230;sa=showPosts
TERA's old account is in use again. stolen?

good find, if it were really her you would think she would have stopped in to say hi

It's not her...


She would not be doing a signature campaign, either.

[infofront]

and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place.

A vanishingly small number. And completely inadvertent. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.

 for you to suggest that people are not(still) confused about this issue is ludicrous.

Are you seriously trying to claim that anyone that spent more than a Superbowl's worth of time looking into it cannot tell the difference between Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Segwit?

You're not being very flattering to the typical bcash holder.

[infofront]

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

No sorry the mods can't do that. I remember serious legal threats on another forum when a mod actually altered someone else's post.

This raises a question I've pondered a bit. A few days ago someone requested that the OP of this thread be updated with links to more modern charting tools, etc.

That's not a bad suggestion. However, I'm more of the frame of mind that the OP is basically still Adam's, and should remain untouched for historical purposes anyway.

[bitserve]

I don't know if moderators can edit (rather than delete) posts, but it would be nice to go through all of jbreher's contributions - some of which raise valid points and contain factually correct, useful information - and

s/Bitcoin Segwit/Bitcoin/g
s/Bitcoin Cash/BCash/g

with a FTFY note in the end, for correctness and clarity.

No sorry the mods can't do that. I remember serious legal threats on another forum when a mod actually altered someone else's post.

This raises a question I've pondered a bit. A few days ago someone requested that the OP of this thread be updated with links to more modern charting tools, etc.

That's not a bad suggestion. However, I'm more of the frame of mind that the OP is basically still Adam's, and should remain untouched for historical purposes anyway.

Yup. I would leave it untouched... or just append whatever you feel like at the beginning and leave full text of the OP untouched for historical purposes. Of course you are completely free to do whatever you see fit, as you are the thread owner now.

[JayJuanGee]

You know something is up when I agree with Ibian. 

Yeah.. he's been kind of on a roll, and I had to sink so far as to send him a merit....

We are going to be in more of an alice in wonderland situation if Roach starts making any sense.

Don't worry, he won't. At least not for a while. He is stuck in the rage phase.

Some people never move on from there. But it is not uncommon for it to take a few years. Time will tell.

Possibly, he enjoys the fact that he is so famous for being roached that he does not want to change his roached status and therefore his potential place in history (of being the dumbest fuck, ever)

[HairyMaclairy]

Interesting battle ahead.  But it’s still a few days off.  Hold onto your trouser pants if we sail through.