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April 12, 2018, 03:05:50 PM

I'll do my best to be bearish for you. <snip>

As a permabull, I'll make an even more bearish statement.

In Bitcoin's history, there has never been a downtrend reversal and start of a new bull run, without first pursuing a major stop loss hunt and major long liquidation. Never.

So take that for what it's worth.  Undecided

time for BTC to make a few changes and if not than down we go first ..... it go's how it go's and i'm fine with it on the other hand we all love green more than red so go BTC go
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April 12, 2018, 03:17:20 PM

A good tattoo is very clear or done by an amazing artist maybe.   Just keep it simple with the rollercoaster bit.    I wanted a tattoo done in UV ink so it only shows under special light not in a business meeting :p
I'll do my best to be bearish for you. <snip>

As a permabull, I'll make an even more bearish statement.

In Bitcoin's history, there has never been a downtrend reversal and start of a new bull run, without first pursuing a major stop loss hunt and major long liquidation. Never.

So take that for what it's worth.  Undecided

Major stop loss hunt?  Thats fine, I dont have a stop loss for better or worse.  Price does not always determine value perfectly, I agree a Richter scale move is still probable.   I hold some gold just in case in a boring way because its inert and doesnt grow and doesnt lose value in bad times/deleveraging events.

The world in general will go through a deleveraging nuclear winter kind of event at some point because we are so reliant in one countrys currency as the backing for world trade.  And its highly stacked.  A perfectly orderly transition to less political and military biased trade is unlikely, hopefully its technology based and more balanced to people not central powers.  Of course Bitcoin should be part of that.

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April 12, 2018, 03:18:31 PM

So, where are all the bear posters now?
Please post something shitty. So we can all fuck you up real good.

I'll do my best to be bearish for you.    But I was holding because it seemed to me the risk reward didnt favour selling, simple as that.  Nobody ever knows for sure but at times its silly be bearish and thats true when the price is drifting sideways because that isnt a negative.   no news is good news meta, because underlying BTC is progressing anyway.  I often think similar for gold, the dollar has great problems ahead ditto yen and many parts of Europe etc  weakness in FIAT relates to use of crypto


So a negative price target now is 7200 because that was my short term upside target previous.  We broke through, massive bar, big volume thats a good break but also I'd expect confirmation.   So we play out the most negative scenario but even so overall its quite bullish.

There is a theme of surprise to the upside at the moment because short interest is at all time highs.   Which means buyers, forced in the same way leverage buyers are stopped out on the way down and price becomes surprisingly weak there


I dont have it drawn on this graph but 7200 is the long term uptrend line.  
I agree we are now in the bullish side of Bitcoin as long as it stays above the 7,200$ line. Next target to confirm we are on a reversal is at least breaking above 8,200$ level where we last know to have took a plunge and reaching as far as 6,500$ level. Reaching 7,700$ is still not a confirmation that we are in an uptrend as this might just be just one last bounce before a big dip will happen.
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April 12, 2018, 03:33:16 PM

Looking at its hourly chart it doesn't look good. Bitcoin should stay above 7,500$ or else it would be a bull trap. RSI is overbought as well as the volume is decreasing which means lesser participation in the trading even though the price of Bitcoin skyrocketed above. Also the way Bitcoin gained 1,000$ in just a small time frame then quickly go down to an acceptable level shows that a lot of people off load their position at their best price. I still see that this down trend might still continue.
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April 12, 2018, 03:37:36 PM

The huge number of shorts proved to be irresistible to some whale(s). Now it's downtrend business as usual.
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April 12, 2018, 03:38:01 PM

Only millionaires and billionaires can save the bitcoin price now.

Dont expect the average Joe for it. They all bailed out in the first 5% drop months ago.

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April 12, 2018, 03:41:42 PM

Only millionaires and billionaires can save the bitcoin price now.

Dont expect the average Joe for it. They all bailed out in the first 5% drop months ago.



only millionaires and billionaires on this forum and other forums and twitter and....   Huh   
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April 12, 2018, 03:43:58 PM

Well, our asses are real sore right now at Casa Lawblaw.

Just got our tax work finished, and we owe mid six figures for FY17.

I hear ya man. Same boat here.

I drew down enough for a lambo in Dec. Unfortunately, a the time I didn't draw down enough for the taxes. Now I'm having to sell 3x the stash that I would have at the time. Grr. Poor planning. Or faith in a mistaken indicator. I was watching days-to-double. Either it is a bad indicator, or I don't know how to use it. Grr.

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April 12, 2018, 03:46:57 PM

Guys, your reasons for the continuing downtrend are all wrong.

It's pretty simple.

1. Whale(s) spend a full year pumping Bitcoin and altcoins to the moon, using massive leverage.

2. Whale(s) gain control of the float and thin it out, pushing prices to the moon.

3. Whale(s) massively short sell/dump in one go. Ending bull run.  Whale mega money then sits on sidelines.

4. Whale(s) use lotza coins to squeeze remaining float up and down to make money trading. Mostly down.

5. Average Joes finally lose interest. Sell at bottom.

... and then... eventually... (*we are not there yet*)...

6. Whale(s) use sidelined mega money to scoop up cheap coins at the bottom. Downtrend over. Next bull run starts.

There are no "reasons". There are no plausible "FUD". Its just the way it goes.


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The elites share/ part of the crypto market will be more concentrated than the current flawed fiat system.
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April 12, 2018, 03:51:37 PM


Haha! quote from article: "Japan started seeking its own rare-earth metals after China held back shipments in 2010 during a dispute over islands both countries claim". Delicious.
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April 12, 2018, 03:57:12 PM

Welcome to the club!


+5 WOsMerits

Love that Medusa artwork as well...thanks.
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That was  pleasant to watch.  Bitcoin has surged over $1000 to breakout over $8k on a nice hourly candle. Currently testing the support/resistance area between $7.6k and $7.8k.



Two random lines converge.



The huge number of shorts proved to be irresistible to some whale(s). Now it's downtrend business as usual.

Good morning $btc

We stood on a hill and looked downwards..

#dyor #btfd #cryptouplift
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April 12, 2018, 03:59:21 PM

Yes I would suspect the MAOI interacted with something to cause to SS. I might not have followed the preparation diet as strictly as I should have, especially considering the giant dose I was given which measured about 1 Liter when I now see that most people drink about a small teacup's worth. In addition, I have a genetic SNP called the "warrior gene" which already impairs my MAOA function.

By the way, in the indigenous culture, ayahuasca is not actually MAOI + DMT. It is strictly the Caapi plant (the MAOI) which has the name Ayahuasca. Other additives, such as a DMT source, or other things, may or may not be added. Most of the time they were not and it was just the Caapi. Also, in most healing ceremonies it was actually just the shaman who drank in order to channel energies to the patient and the patient did not even drink. I learned all of this after the fact. So apparently all us tourists are being taken for a ride.

I did not get ill with my current condition until 2 years after this event, so I'm not sure how I would bring up a correlation with my doctor, unless I want to hear that I'm suffering from a somatized PTSD disorder. Actually I'd be curious to do a SPECT scan of my brain and see if anything died.
I was aware that it was usually just the shaman drinking, but I had no idea that it was originally just about the MAOI. I thought that the caapi on its own didn't even have any real effects, at least nothing comparable to any psychedelic. But whatever makes money I guess. It does seem to be hardwired to supply what people demand.


If I wasn't so sure $100k was right around the corner I would probably be a bit irritated by this.
Which corner?
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April 12, 2018, 04:10:29 PM
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yttrium, europium, terbium and dysprosium, never heard of any of them lol.



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April 12, 2018, 04:11:59 PM

I'll do my best to be bearish for you. <snip>

As a permabull, I'll make an even more bearish statement.

In Bitcoin's history, there has never been a downtrend reversal and start of a new bull run, without first pursuing a major stop loss hunt and major long liquidation. Never.

So take that for what it's worth.  Undecided

Not sure there would be any major long liquidation anymore to be honest.
Anyone not selling at $6K will probably not sell at $2K or below.

I won't.
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April 12, 2018, 04:12:19 PM

yttrium, europium, terbium and dysprosium, never heard of any of them lol.


guess he never worked with a YIG oscillator
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April 12, 2018, 04:16:27 PM

Not sure there would be any major long liquidation anymore to be honest.
Anyone not selling at $6K will probably not sell at $2K or below.

I won't.



Only the whales will sell below $6k. The panicked newbies are already out for a long time.

They can dump as much as they want. I will be ready to buy when it touches $4k.
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April 12, 2018, 04:19:45 PM

The huge number of shorts proved to be irresistible to some whale(s). Now it's downtrend business as usual.

Someone told me shorts are piling up to near ATH?

INB4 mega short sqeeze!  Kiss
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April 12, 2018, 04:24:01 PM

There's nothing like the smell of rekt shorts in the morning Smiley

That doesn't mean what you think it means Wink
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April 12, 2018, 04:33:34 PM

show's over folks

back to work
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