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April 03, 2019, 08:16:57 PM

People that assume Bitcoin's market cycles will become longer due to the size of market cap forget that adoption is not static and its growth can quickly go parabolic (as in 2017).

IMO, it also underestimates the power of the halving events

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1113489377181741062
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April 03, 2019, 08:19:50 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_tax#Current_examples

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Argentina
Canada
France
Spain
Netherlands
Norway
Switzerland
Italy
Do note that the Netherlands don't have a capital gains tax. And their wealth tax caps at I believe 1.6 or 1.8%.
And we very recently where added to the official EU tax-haven list (anything the EU does is more based on politics than factualities, but still a nice accomplishment.)
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April 03, 2019, 08:20:27 PM

Fucking hell - BREAKOUT

$5,251
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April 03, 2019, 08:21:04 PM



I guess whe all love


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April 03, 2019, 08:21:54 PM

Fucking hell - BREAKOUT

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I think bitfinex died. Or is cryptowat.ch bugy and does not update my bitfinex tab?

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April 03, 2019, 08:22:54 PM

But guys, what's up with the hats? Care to explain?

EDIT: hey a dump, are we re-testing 5K?

Things I don't understand:
  • Hats
  • legendary vs. full member vs. Hero Member
  • how Activity is calculated
  • What merit is, how to get it, why can i only send some of mine?
  • why it burns when i pee
  • why exactly I thought investing in Securecoin and Mooncoin was a good idea

Part of figuring out the answers is recognizing the questions.  You go, plastic!!!!

Thanks JJG! I agree sometimes the best part is the journey, not the destination.

The more I think about it guys, maybe, just maybe, the moon was inside us this whole time!  Grin

That's the spirit, plastic.

Attack mode!!!!!

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April 03, 2019, 08:23:28 PM
Merited by 600watt (1), LFC_Bitcoin (1)



80 X-ing with goldkingcoiner perhaps Roll Eyes
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80 X-ing with goldkingcoiner perhaps Roll Eyes

Hahaaaaaa fucking hell
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April 03, 2019, 08:25:12 PM

$BTC is only a 4x from $20k. easy af Smiley Grin
$20k is just seven 20% jumps away.
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April 03, 2019, 08:26:06 PM



Lol, This is not over.
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April 03, 2019, 08:26:07 PM

Just for knowing BoB all must be gay-friendly for me or its an absolute NO GO!!!!

Just a "friendly reminder, you don't really "know" bob, just like with any of us.  

You have "met" "his" online persona.   Wink Wink

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Yeah, but like his online being as many in here, but don’t need to point that @me my Real life is under perfect controll with many real life peeps.....

But one can like Some online talkers or not
And i like a few very much ‘they know for sure’

Is so much lovey dovey healthy?  I wonder.

you love your keyboard

Have you even heard about "non-sequitur"?



your just a strange bird, so one has to do strange to be sense-full to you

Huh?

I am normal.  I just post here from time to time.  

Again.. someone seems to be mixing up online persona with real peeps.  

Snap out of it.  Get a grip, mic. 
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April 03, 2019, 08:26:34 PM

Been thinking:

I have been trying to crunch historical prices of late to see if I can spot patterns between data sets from 2015 and 2019. Patterns that might allow me some kind of edge in future price prediction. And not just so I can win one of MicG's games Wink

Obviously I've been trying this because it's apparent that there are established cycles and even uncannily close ratios that appear in Bitcoin related to halvings, absolute bottoms and ATHs.

Many have predicted this cycle will take longer than previously, saying that cycles appear to be getting more drawn out.

However - there is a simple factor at work here which I think means this is not the case, which is that once something is reasonably predictable then you can reasonably anticipate it. For instance, it's not stupid to postulate that it's usually cold in January in the Northern hemisphere, so you pack warm and waterproof items of clothing if you intend to be there and spend time outside. You cannot predict the precise temperature on a given day - but you know it's a safe bet in January it's going to be cold.

What the hell has the weather got to do with Bitcoin?  Well, the more confirmation that the cycle is looking like it's heading for a repeat akin to the past (as sure as the seasons inevitably change) it follows that more people will feel confident in front-running it.  Logically, if it has bottomed and is now almost definitely going up rather than down, then (equally logically) it's batshit crazy not to buy before it gets more expensive.  Especially as the pesky damn digital things are going to be more difficult to acquire, since the supply is decreasing.  OTC is not necessarily going to be so easy, either - and some miners may perhaps delay selling quite so quickly.  The feedback loop will be powerful with so much media interest and the institutional money around, too.

Now - bear with me? Let me spool back to the post-Gox era and the 'bubble/bust' before the 17/18 one we have just come through.

In January 2015 I did buy at the bottom, but not because I had any god-like foresight. Not at all.

Frankly, I didn't know if Bitcoin would ever come back (did anyone for sure?) However, I was underwater with my investment, so the only thing to do was to buy more to average my cost down and make a breakeven more likely in future.  I wasn't certain, I just felt I had to either sell, or double down, and I didn't want to quit.  So, I steeled myself, trusted my instinct and bought a load more.  With 20/20 hindsight it was probably the best financial decision I ever made, but if you'd said to me then that the bitcoins I had just bought for sub 200 bucks would be worth nearly $20K less than three years later - I would probably have thought you were crazy. Back then this thread had tumbleweed rolling through and sometimes not one post (apart from chart buddy) for hours.

What I am driving at is that today it's just not the same as back then.  Now, we have had bubbles and crashes that look like fractals with some trend regularity being apparent and yes, looking predictable. Now, no one has any illusions that BTC could not easily hit 20K again.  Now, any doubts about increasingly higher prices returning once the bottom is 'obviously' in the rear view mirror will disappear pretty fast.

So, the more the price 'recovers' the more asymmetrical a bet on Bitcoin looks.  5K? A risk? What fucking risk!

Back to my workings on that pattern overlay I mentioned.  Well right now the bunch of models I set up are looking out of sync. Now I may be VERY wrong of course and it's not based on nearly enough data, but it looks to me like it's going faster than it should be.

Certainly some people, including me in my small way, have been steadily accumulating.  Sooner or later of course, no matter what - it had to start to increasingly affect price.  And then, well...  it doesn't take a genius to see that buying now what is already rising again and highly likely to be at a lot higher price level before too long, just makes sense. The feedback loop will be way more powerful. Bitcoin has blown everyone away more than once, fewer and fewer people will be prepared to bet against it anymore. Now, it's got 'previous form'.

And for anyone who has a lot already - it's looking foolish to risk trying price suppression in order to accumulate anymore - not when tens of millions of $ can flip the price up 20% or more in the wee small hours of the morning.

Maybe there isn't so much time left to accumulate at these levels after all?

Also, here's a thing: what if the very supposed 'predictability' of Bitcoin will mean it can't be this time? In a sort of 'Heisenburg's uncertainty principle' way, the very act of having measured it, makes the measurement invalid - as the market is expecting it.

Forgive the long ramble - I am just feeling things are different and any assumptions we have of what 'the cycle' should do and how long it should take are a tad out of date. And I am sure I can't be the only soul on this planet thinking along these lines.

So: what if the common assumptions are indeed totally out of date and it starts running away far earlier than expected? 

Well, I just hope you've already packed your bags for the trip and they are as full as possible.  Don't worry, though - I have a feeling it won't be too cold where we are headed.

In fact, it's probably a good idea to bring your shades.



NB: I sometimes have flights of fancy that are utterly risible, I just wanted to float this for fun. After all, the one thing you can rely on with honey badger - is that it doesn't give a fuck about what you are expecting it to do, right?
DYOR.

these are kind of my thoughts just written in greater detail.

in 2015 everbody was like ahh bitcoin dont know it was just a hype it wont come back
now its like yeah wait for the halvening and it will be like in the 6 digits .
 alot of people are quietly watching the price and the ones with guts are getting in early.

nobody knows what will happen till the halvening but you can say the price will be higher at the halvening


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April 03, 2019, 08:29:42 PM


Lol, zoom out a bit Mic, it's doing a LOT.  Grin



aaaaaah NOW you say it.... but why didn't I posted this one yet, one of my favorite gifs Smiley Cheesy

its WALL OBSERVER TIIIIIIIIIIIME

Yeah Steve Stiffler would make a great bitcoiner  Grin
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April 03, 2019, 08:31:51 PM

So the Bogdanoff twins were right here hehe:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptocurrencymemes/comments/a7191k/bogdanoffs_best_wishes_for_the_new_crypto_year/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

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April 03, 2019, 08:32:54 PM

Been thinking:

-snip-

Maybe there isn't so much time left to accumulate at these levels after all?

-snip-

Well, I just hope you've already packed your bags for the trip and they are as full as possible.  Don't worry, though - I have a feeling it won't be too cold where we are headed.

In fact, it's probably a good idea to bring your shades.



NB: I sometimes have flights of fancy that are utterly risible, I just wanted to float this for fun. After all, the one thing you can rely on with honey badger - is that it doesn't give a fuck about what you are expecting it to do, right?
DYOR.

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April 03, 2019, 08:33:33 PM

Moving a bit too fast for my liking. I think we’ll have a correction to mid 4K’s. I’m fine with that, I’m enjoying accumulating.

We all know we’re going to 6 figures beyond 2021 any way.
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April 03, 2019, 08:36:56 PM

Moving a bit too fast for my liking. I think we’ll have a correction to mid 4K’s. I’m fine with that, I’m enjoying accumulating.

We all know we’re going to 6 figures beyond 2021 any way.
I totally agree, higher highs and higher lows but what the fuck do I know.
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April 03, 2019, 08:42:11 PM

Moving a bit too fast for my liking. I think we’ll have a correction to mid 4K’s. I’m fine with that, I’m enjoying accumulating.

We all know we’re going to 6 figures beyond 2021 any way.
I totally agree, higher highs and higher lows but what the fuck do I know.

Yeah, fuck it. I’m just adding to my stash constantly. You can NEVER have enough.
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