Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Swordsoffreedom]

maybe a needed correction. let us become patient again. it was a wild ride so far in 2020.

Look at mine: keep kalm and Hold on...

I entered the market in the first week of January with a certain amount of budget.
This is my H4 short time trading history, till now everything is going fine.
BTC H4 large correction already has been started most probably we will hit 12k after a short break.
If you are a smart guy do your own speculations, don't depends on other and don't follow anyone blindly.

[JayJuanGee]

Looks like everybody here who properly invested in bitcoin before 2017 have around at least 50 and possibly closer to 100 btc while other late people who started to accumulate after 2017 have something between 5 and 15.

Makes sense since btc is now at x10 of the 2014's ATH.

Being early pays.

That's a big old assumption. Those amounts even in 2013/14 were still a few tens of thousands of dollars depending on when you arrived. Not many people out there have that available to lock away for several years with no guarantee of where it'll end up.

I also believe that it is NOT a good strategy to blow your whole wadd, anyhow, even if you had
$30k that you might be able to invest over a few year timeline.

So, you can look at the price between 2013 and 2016 and even consider that some guys (and gal) who got in during that time period, might have taken a few years to buy in, so their average price per BTC might kind of fluctuate and even how much that they had available to buy BTC each month may have varied.  Maybe some months they had $200 that they could invest, and other months they had $1,500, and maybe over several years they might have accumulated a decent chunk of BTC, but NOT as many BTC as you might presume them to have been able to accumulate.  You have to account for some mistakes along the way too... even if it is not the mistakes of buying into shitcoins, there can be other ways to make mistakes and lose money too by selling some at the wrong time or even getting scared and failing to buy during certain periods of time and then buying some dumb consumption good, such as a motorcycle, rather than buying BTC... things like that.

[Olegya199]

Listen guys, but some users buy goods on this forum somehow staying anonymous, or am I wrong ?

hm, never have attended to this sort of business. in the early times if ppl bought mining equipment and stuff they communicated via PGP encrypted PM's and have had revealed some sort of receiving addresses to other ppl.

EDIT: try to send theymos some of your chocolate and see how he will react. he have never attended to some sort of meeting or anything else of the early Bitcoin community activities as I know so far.  

I don't know how ridiculous this may seem to you, but I once met information that theymos was named Michael. And I think I even saw his parents' address. I'm not sure if that's 100% accurate information, but it was very similar...

[JayJuanGee]

I doubt that very many long term bitcoiners really agree with any of the pushes to make cash illegal.. or to discourage the use of cash.

Why not? We already have Petro, the Chinese almost ready to launch digital Yuan, the Japanese are brainstorming whether to have a digital yen and other Governments might also follow. Almost everything has gone digital now  

Those systems are tracking you.  There are a decent number of people who do not want to be tracked, so even if it is happening more and more frequently, there are going to continue to be people who are choosing to use money that is more private, in certain circumstances, and if that money is available to them.

Of course, if such money is not available to them, then they are going to have to figure out ways to be more creative to attempt to either have plausible deniability or take too many chances of being traced in too many ways that they would prefer NOT to be.

One of the values of bitcoin to be attempting to take measures in the privacy direction, but it is going to be a bit harder to be private, if your only way into bitcoin is through some tracking mechanism and then you are not engaging in practices to cause the traceability of your coins more difficult.

[Olegya199]

And yet, maybe there is a person in the forum who could be a mediator between us? There is no way that this task could not be solved!

[JayJuanGee]

First haiku today?
We goin' up or we goin' down?
Uncertain Sunday?

Whichever direction we go, do we really care?
1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin

Yes.... We do care.    

Whichever direction we go, do we really care?
1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin

Yes but 2 Bitcoin better than 1 Bitcoin.
I'm getting way too nervous for my health, so I BTFD at $9870. First buy this year, and the highest price I ever payed.
For some reason I sleep fine when I'm holding BTC and the price tanks 50% but get very nervous about missing the train. Anyway, that's taken care of now.

Hopefully, everything will average out in a decent way for you hodl_2015, and if you have a long enough time horizon for your BTC investment, at least a few years, then it is quite likely it will not matter too much, even if your purchase of BTC today brought up your average buy price for your BTC stash a little bit. 

[Gyrsur]

wow, the FX markets have opened since 22:00 UTC after the weekend and since then the price did very well. weekends are for amateurs meanwhile.

[marcus_of_augustus]

And yet, maybe there is a person in the forum who could be a mediator between us? There is no way that this task could not be solved!

... use a dropbox.

Like put your chocolates in a railway station locker, downtown Wuhan for example. If anyone wants them they can ask for the combination.

[Icygreen]

After traveling through Ho Chi Minh city and especially now onto Bali, I'm starting to get the sense that people are treating the virus as a big nothing burger. Ok, maybe not nothing but certainly not more serious than SARS was.
More face masks being worn in HCMC but no checks or info at the airport and even many of the staff weren't wearing masks.
Now in Bali, it seems no fucks are given, no masks, nothing, just lots of whatevs.
At the airport upon arrival I had to fill out a card that asked if I was sick. Sign it and trade it for another card stamped health certificate. No temperature checks.
So what's the chances the media and markets have this thing blown up to generate maximum fears?

I did see one couple that looked a bit odd. They got a lot of funny looks and a few of us snapping shots.

I'm not gonna pretend that this isn't happening or be insensitive, just relaying sentiment from the ground level as I had passed through my own fears of what this virus could mean personally to now feeling calmer in general.

Corn still kinda sideways at 10k, all is good this week.

[gentlemand]

I'm not gonna pretend that this isn't happening or be insensitive, just relaying sentiment from the ground level as I had passed through my own fears of what this virus could mean personally to now feeling calmer in general.

Can we get this optimistic/realist creep removed from the thread?

This post needs to come down before too many people read it.

[Last of the V8s]

Bet on the coronavirus pandemic by investing in CoronaCoin, the more the virus spreads the more valuable the token becomes and a portion of funds will be donated to Red Cross.

CoronaCoin (NCOV) is an ERC20-compliant token. The total supply is based on the world population (7,604,953,650 NCOV) and the token will be burnt once every 48 hours depending on the number of infected people and fatalities, so the token is deflationary and also non-mintable.

[JayJuanGee]

Send me all the chocolate.

And you will then send a tile to each of the WO's members?

Bring them to the $100k party.  It will be incentive for several peeps to break their opsec for a free tile of chocolate - as addictive as.. other things.



Try one.. there is nothing in here, except pure delicious... and each chocolate tile has a specially tailored image of your avatar

[Last of the V8s]

realist

It's far too early to know what's real with this virus.

What some of the travelling Indonesian public and their authorities are doing is interesting but that's all. It could end up being very sad or yes prophetic.

For anyone who wants to live, and I get that you may not, there can't be any harm in learning about it, treating it as a practise run for 'the big one' and generally not rushing about glad-handing our Asian cousins until we know something 'real'.

[Paashaas]

- Number of coronavirus cases passes 70,000, death toll reaches 1765.

- First coronavirus death in Taiwan.

- Five new cases in Tokyo one in South Korea.

- Schools in Vietnam to remain closed until the end of February.

- Singapore downgrades GDP growth forecast to an estimated range of -0.5% to 1.5%, citing outbreak of coronavirus.

- Roughly 700 million+ are living under some kind of residential lockdown.

- MGM China closes doors as number of Macau hotels to suspend operations.

- New cases of coronavirus on cruise ship near Tokyo, raising ship's total to 355.

It's far too early to know what's real with this virus.

If you survive the first round of the coronavirus, you end up with fucked up kidneys, a fucked up heart, and your balls quit working, then when you get it again, your heart explodes.

[marcus_of_augustus]

It's far too early to know what's real with this virus.

If you survive the first round of the coronavirus, you end up with fucked up kidneys, a fucked up heart and lungs, your balls quit working, then when you get it again your heart explodes.

edited.

[Ibian]

After traveling through Ho Chi Minh city and especially now onto Bali, I'm starting to get the sense that people are treating the virus as a big nothing burger. Ok, maybe not nothing but certainly not more serious than SARS was.
More face masks being worn in HCMC but no checks or info at the airport and even many of the staff weren't wearing masks.
Now in Bali, it seems no fucks are given, no masks, nothing, just lots of whatevs.
At the airport upon arrival I had to fill out a card that asked if I was sick. Sign it and trade it for another card stamped health certificate. No temperature checks.
So what's the chances the media and markets have this thing blown up to generate maximum fears?

I did see one couple that looked a bit odd. They got a lot of funny looks and a few of us snapping shots.

I'm not gonna pretend that this isn't happening or be insensitive, just relaying sentiment from the ground level as I had passed through my own fears of what this virus could mean personally to now feeling calmer in general.

Corn still kinda sideways at 10k, all is good this week.

It's still very early stages. In Thailand bars are checking temps before letting people in, the occasional poster warning about symptoms and to see a medic if you have them. Masks being worn, but mostly by asians who do it anyway.

We are far too complacent. By the time people do start taking it seriously, it will be far too late. It's too infectious to be stopped even if we started taking drastic measures right now, but the way things are going there is no doubt that it will go global.

[Ibian]

- New cases of coronavirus on cruise ship near Tokyo, raising ship's total to 355.

How many people are on that ship again?

[marcus_of_augustus]

- New cases of coronavirus on cruise ship near Tokyo, raising ship's total to 355.

How many people are on that ship again?

... began with around 3600 people on board I recall.

[Biodom]

My understanding is that all those who are not sick or not positive on that ship are going to be released soon.
This is apart from those who took a flight to US where they will be sitting another 2 wk in a second quarantine.

[jojo69]

You ever drink Baileys from a shoe?