MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]

[bitcoinvest]

ok so what i can understand is that the 650.000 missing BTC where nothing more than numbers in the sql right?

I don't think so.  I understand that the police concluded that the BTC were in MtGOX's possession, but someone familiar with the system took them and ...

now we are talking....

and this someone is?  the community believes it's M.K.
but even if some other employee did that he new the password etc for the cold wallets right??? So we are talking that this someone is either Mark or someone very close to him.... either way the police investigation 1 year now will have solve that and we are going to learn the truth in 2 days is the next newspaper news....

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[macsga]

The cold wallets where physically accessible by MK only. He -and only he- had the passwords, as he stated himself. The mitos of Ariadne is reaching to its end...

[bitcoinvest]

just read this comment on coindesk article for MtGox.

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Since we haven't reached the Artificial Intelligence Technological Singularity yet and it seems there was little human intelligence at Mt.Gox to begin with, "Willy" and "Marcus" have to represent people who were operating them. If they were insiders then the list of employees and people with inside access must be readily available.
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Access to the Server room etc was available of course to Mark Karpeles and if so to some more people that can be count in one hand my dear community we are heading the end of the story and probably we can have our BTC back

[Tzupy]

There is no official police report yet, just "According to sources in the Metropolitan Police Department".
I am looking forward to read an official police report. If they will come to similar conclusions as the "Willy report",
then I would expect a seriously bearish influence on the market. Quoting from the "Willy report":

It needs to be recognized that, whether intentional or not (though plausible ignorance only goes so far), Mt. Gox has effectively been abusing Bitcoin to operate a Ponzi scheme for at least a year. The November “bubble” well into the $1000’s – and possibly April’s as well – was driven by hundreds of millions of dollars of fake liquidity pumped into the market out of thin air (note that this is equivalent to “with depositors’ money”). It is only natural that the Bitcoin price would deflate for around 5 months since its December peak, since there was never enough fiat coming in to support these kind of prices in the first place.

[bitcoinvest]

2 hours ago M.K. retweeted again after 21/12/2014.....

and of course not a single comment on the news that speaks about 99% fraud ....and an insider...

let's see..

[raskul]

Is he in jail yet?

[JorgeStolfi]

2 hours ago M.K. retweeted again after 21/12/2014.....
and of course not a single comment on the news that speaks about 99% fraud ....and an insider...
let's see..

Try to imagine yourself in his position -- guilty of either deliberate fraud, or of abysmal incompetence and shameless lies to cover it up.  His behavior is quite expected.

[bitcoinvest]

Is he in jail yet?

3 hours ago he retweeted something so probably no.....

[smoothie]

Is he in jail yet?

3 hours ago he retweeted something so probably no.....

Don't you know they have twitter-ing capabilities within Japan prisons? lol j/k 

[leopard2]

Is he in jail yet?

3 hours ago he retweeted something so probably no.....

In America he would be in jail or singing like a tweety bird; IMHO white collar crime is much less risky in Japan. 

[el_rlee]

Is he allowed to leave Japan?

[JorgeStolfi]

Is he allowed to leave Japan?

I don't think he has been charged with any crime yet.  The bankruptcy process is a civil one, formally "against" the company, not the managers.

[macsga]

Is he allowed to leave Japan?

He runs a second business there offering hosting of webservers and... urm... security consultation...
http://forever.net


PS: This is ACTUAL pic a couple of mins before posting this

[bitcoinvest]

Is he allowed to leave Japan?

He runs a second business there offering hosting of webservers and... urm... security consultation...
http://forever.net


PS: This is ACTUAL pic a couple of mins before posting this

this was the guy running the #1 Bitcoin Exchange?? OMG !

[bitcoinvest]

http://bitcoins.com/
https://www.kalyhost.com/

SAME ERROR!!!!

Database access error, please retry later


now that is funny



EDIT: after some hours back on line again... seems that someone informed M.K. or did he asked for help?? hahahahaha

[DrApricot]

There is no official police report yet, just "According to sources in the Metropolitan Police Department".
I am looking forward to read an official police report. If they will come to similar conclusions as the "Willy report",
then I would expect a seriously bearish influence on the market. Quoting from the "Willy report":

It needs to be recognized that, whether intentional or not (though plausible ignorance only goes so far), Mt. Gox has effectively been abusing Bitcoin to operate a Ponzi scheme for at least a year. The November “bubble” well into the $1000’s – and possibly April’s as well – was driven by hundreds of millions of dollars of fake liquidity pumped into the market out of thin air (note that this is equivalent to “with depositors’ money”). It is only natural that the Bitcoin price would deflate for around 5 months since its December peak, since there was never enough fiat coming in to support these kind of prices in the first place.

....but, what about the missing $26 million? Mt. Gox's banks must have known all along that it was an inside job. Maybe this is what really happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6phynr2fdVU

[macsga]

There is no official police report yet, just "According to sources in the Metropolitan Police Department".
I am looking forward to read an official police report. If they will come to similar conclusions as the "Willy report",
then I would expect a seriously bearish influence on the market. Quoting from the "Willy report":

It needs to be recognized that, whether intentional or not (though plausible ignorance only goes so far), Mt. Gox has effectively been abusing Bitcoin to operate a Ponzi scheme for at least a year. The November “bubble” well into the $1000’s – and possibly April’s as well – was driven by hundreds of millions of dollars of fake liquidity pumped into the market out of thin air (note that this is equivalent to “with depositors’ money”). It is only natural that the Bitcoin price would deflate for around 5 months since its December peak, since there was never enough fiat coming in to support these kind of prices in the first place.

....but, what about the missing $26 million? Mt. Gox's banks must have known all along that it was an inside job. Maybe this is what really happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6phynr2fdVU

That was hilarious. The story though... hmm, kinda feels like true!

[bitcoinvest]

up to now we have no news... i wonder why the newspaper told that 3rd of Janurary would post something out and yet nothing....

[igorr]

Bitstamp is dead !!!

https://www.bitstamp.net/


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[bitcoinvest]

the way i see it we have gox # 2

we can say we got goxed and we got bitstamped

but in any case i hope they recover and most important customers have back their BTC

according to the report customers should not worry but same reports we had one year ago with mtgox



EDIT 09/01/2015: bitstamp.net is back on line!

That is great news for the community i think and of course for the customers and their Bitcoins ....