MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]

[EasyQuest]

Just receive my card today with Japanese and English.  I thought it was only in Japanese but the clever letter was hidden under the sticky cover. I did not lose much at all (0.0006 BTC or 0.001 USD) so no issues at all.

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[Aido]

I did not lose much at all (0.0006 BTC or 0.001 USD) so no issues at all.

So it cost several hundred times more to send the card from Japan than the total amount you can claim for  

Real sensible Mr. Kobayashi

[cafminer1]

I did not lose much at all (0.0006 BTC or 0.001 USD) so no issues at all.

So it cost several hundred times more to send the card from Japan than the total amount you can claim for  

Real sensible Mr. Kobayashi

Exactly, as I ve just said.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.msg7628486#msg7628486

[JorgeStolfi]

I did not lose much at all (0.0006 BTC or 0.001 USD) so no issues at all.

So it cost several hundred times more to send the card from Japan than the total amount you can claim for  
Real sensible Mr. Kobayashi

If he had decided to supress the postcard for people with less than 1 USD balance, many of them would complain anyway, or worse. 

But be sure to check the rules with them.  According to some posts here, if they follow standard bankruptcy practice, they will define your claim as all that you deposited, minus all that you withdrew -- rather than using the USD and BTC balances in your account at some arbitrary date.   

But perhaps Mr. Kobayashi himself doesn't know yet how he will compute the claims.  This bankruptcy is probably virgin territory for the courts.

[smoothie]

Has there been any meaningful updates?

Looks like this debacle is now in the back of people's minds.

[JorgeStolfi]

Has there been any meaningful updates?
Looks like this debacle is now in the back of people's minds.

I understand that Mr. Kobayashi, the court-appointed liquidation supervisor,  has sent out paper mail to all known MtGOX customers asking them to fill some claim form until some deadline.  No further news are expected until that deadline.  Perhaps someone who got said p-mail can fill in the details.

[techmars]

Has there been any meaningful updates?
Looks like this debacle is now in the back of people's minds.

I understand that Mr. Kobayashi, the court-appointed liquidation supervisor,  has sent out paper mail to all known MtGOX customers asking them to fill some claim form until some deadline.  No further news are expected until that deadline.  Perhaps someone who got said p-mail can fill in the details.

where is the claim form ?
any link to download the form ?

[JorgeStolfi]

Readers of this thread may be interested in the thread below:

HOLY F**** I just got the details of 50 bitcoiners in CY DANNY BREWSTER INCLUDE

[freedomno1]

Readers of this thread may be interested in the thread below:

HOLY F**** I just got the details of 50 bitcoiners in CY DANNY BREWSTER INCLUDE

That would be full Karma anyways I'm a bit skeptical but if this is true were in for some fun

[JorgeStolfi]

Readers of this thread may be interested in the thread below:
HOLY F**** I just got the details of 50 bitcoiners in CY DANNY BREWSTER INCLUDE

That would be full Karma anyways I'm a bit skeptical but if this is true were in for some fun

The conclusion of that thread is that the address is old, from well before MtGOX's collapse.  By the time he ran away he had moved to Nicosia.
EDIT: but if you are in Cyprus, now you know why you did not get yout MtGOX postcard. 

[bitcoinvest]

new post on mtgox.com

https://www.mtgox.com/

https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140714_meeting_faq.pdf


and speaking about updates here is an interesting one:

http://virtualmining.com/bitcoin-joint-venture-to-bid-for-mt-gox-assets/

what do you think?? mtgox will be up and running in a month? let's see!!

[JorgeStolfi]

speaking about updates here is an interesting one:
http://virtualmining.com/bitcoin-joint-venture-to-bid-for-mt-gox-assets/
what do you think?? mtgox will be up and running in a month? let's see!!

I can only see the top few lines of that article and it says onle that they plan to "fill the void left by MtGOX" by opening an exchange in Japan.  Do they really intend to bid for MtGOX assets? (AFAIK there is no chance of that, and what assets are there to bid for?)

[DrApricot]

speaking about updates here is an interesting one:
http://virtualmining.com/bitcoin-joint-venture-to-bid-for-mt-gox-assets/
what do you think?? mtgox will be up and running in a month? let's see!!

I can only see the top few lines of that article and it says onle that they plan to "fill the void left by MtGOX" by opening an exchange in Japan.  Do they really intend to bid for MtGOX assets? (AFAIK there is no chance of that, and what assets are there to bid for?)

Google the title and the entire article will come up.

Sounds very much like the OKCoin proposal with a new twist or two.

[JorgeStolfi]

Google the title and the entire article will come up.
Sounds very much like the OKCoin proposal with a new twist or two.

Thanks!

I really cannot see why a new exchange would honestly want to present itself as "MtGOX reborn" or buy any asset from MtGOX.  Would be like a US presidential candidate legally changing his name to "Richard M. Nixon Two".   (I can think of several very bad reasons for that, though.)

By the way, I thought that I read somewhere that Tibanne, MtGOX's parent firm, convinced the MtGOX liquidator that a certain portion of the remaining bitcoins belonged to Tibanne and not to MtGOX, and so they should not be part of the liquidation.  Has anyone seen that, or was it only a bad dream?

[mgroenouwe]

Google the title and the entire article will come up.
Sounds very much like the OKCoin proposal with a new twist or two.

Thanks!

I really cannot see why a new exchange would honestly want to present itself as "MtGOX reborn" or buy any asset from MtGOX.  Would be like a US presidential candidate legally changing his name to "Richard M. Nixon Two".   (I can think of several very bad reasons for that, though.)

By the way, I thought that I read somewhere that Tibanne, MtGOX's parent firm, convinced the MtGOX liquidator that a certain portion of the remaining bitcoins belonged to Tibanne and not to MtGOX, and so they should not be part of the liquidation.  Has anyone seen that, or was it only a bad dream?

Maybe they want to buy it for all the account data. E.g. It takes a lot of time (and money) to check and verify all the personal passports.
A business can start all over with zero customers, but what if you can start with hundreds of thousands of verified customers...

[JorgeStolfi]

Maybe they want to buy it for all the account data. E.g. It takes a lot of time (and money) to check and verify all the personal passports.
A business can start all over with zero customers, but what if you can start with hundreds of thousands of verified customers...

But of course they cannot assume that every customer of the old MtGOX wants to be a customer of the new one, so customers would have to explicitly open new accounts anyway.  And the liquidators cannot sell to the new firm the ID/passport scans of people who do not want to be customers, can they?  (If they CAN and intend to do that, then that is one one more bad reason for them to want the takeover.)

When someone dies, he gets buried or cremated, and that is it.  No matter how much relatives and friends miss him, they won't go searching for a doctor who can bring the dead back to life.  Companies are like that too.  Wen a company dies, it dies, and that is it.  Anyone who claims to be able to bring it back to life is srely a charlatan tring to swindle those who miss it.

[bitcoinvest]

Google the title and the entire article will come up.
Sounds very much like the OKCoin proposal with a new twist or two.

Thanks!

I really cannot see why a new exchange would honestly want to present itself as "MtGOX reborn" or buy any asset from MtGOX.  Would be like a US presidential candidate legally changing his name to "Richard M. Nixon Two".   (I can think of several very bad reasons for that, though.)

By the way, I thought that I read somewhere that Tibanne, MtGOX's parent firm, convinced the MtGOX liquidator that a certain portion of the remaining bitcoins belonged to Tibanne and not to MtGOX, and so they should not be part of the liquidation.  Has anyone seen that, or was it only a bad dream?

where have you found that??
what the F@CK is going on? if this is true what are we waiting to receive?? probably nothing? and Mark is tweeting cats??

[JorgeStolfi]

By the way, I thought that I read somewhere that Tibanne, MtGOX's parent firm, convinced the MtGOX liquidator that a certain portion of the remaining bitcoins belonged to Tibanne and not to MtGOX, and so they should not be part of the liquidation.  Has anyone seen that, or was it only a bad dream?

where have you found that??
what the F@CK is going on? if this is true what are we waiting to receive?? probably nothing? and Mark is tweeting cats??

Found it (I wasn't dreaming!).  But it is "only" 200 kUSD:

http://www.goxdox.org/2014/07/magicaltux-strikes-again-tibanne-takes.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29u6dt/goxdoxorg_magicaltux_strikes_again_tibanne_takes/

However it is quite strange that Tibanne gots its claim served (in full?) before the other clients.  Especially considering that the sole owner of Tibanne is the former CEO of the company being liquidated. 
 

[bitcoinvest]

By the way, I thought that I read somewhere that Tibanne, MtGOX's parent firm, convinced the MtGOX liquidator that a certain portion of the remaining bitcoins belonged to Tibanne and not to MtGOX, and so they should not be part of the liquidation.  Has anyone seen that, or was it only a bad dream?

where have you found that??
what the F@CK is going on? if this is true what are we waiting to receive?? probably nothing? and Mark is tweeting cats??

Found it (I wasn't dreaming!).  But it is "only" 200 kUSD:

http://www.goxdox.org/2014/07/magicaltux-strikes-again-tibanne-takes.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29u6dt/goxdoxorg_magicaltux_strikes_again_tibanne_takes/

However it is quite strange that Tibanne gots its claim served (in full?) before the other clients.  Especially considering that the sole owner of Tibanne is the former CEO of the company being liquidated. 
 

In 2 days we have the creditors meeting among the other's i think we MUST have reply on that......

[Tzupy]

I am very curious how the missing fiat will be explained by Karpeles and Kobayashi.
AFAIK there is only some 7M$ left, out of 70M$ (or more) deposited MtGox customer funds.
Bitcoins could be hacked out of Gox, but the fiat?