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May 23, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
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how can I submit a claim as lender and what date??

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May 23, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
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Bankruptcy claims under a bankruptcy procedure will be fixed through filing of claims and the investigation procedure. The method for filing claims will be published on this site as soon as we are in a situation to announce it.

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May 23, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
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Bankruptcy claims under a bankruptcy procedure will be fixed through filing of claims and the investigation procedure. The method for filing claims will be published on this site as soon as we are in a situation to announce it.
Thank you man!

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May 23, 2014, 08:28:53 PM
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Citizen's arrest based on what? You need to tread carefully when doing such a thing.

No, it's simple as pie. If you have grounds to believe that there is a crime going on, and that the criminal may be about to run with the money, you just detain him and leave the matter to the police for investigation. The police cannot fine you unless they find out that Mt.Gox is committing nothing criminal. In the complaint you outline the crimes in such technical precision that the police cannot find them not true without real investigation. So they will have to investigate.

Of course they can summarily decide that you are wrong and the arrest was unlawful, but if Mt.Gox ever is found guilty (which I would say is 99% sure at this point), you will triumph as a hero and Japan police and judicial system is shamed.

This is exactly why citizen's arrest prevails in the legal code. When it's taken away, then there is nothing more to do but whine.

What a shame that this did not happen.
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May 23, 2014, 10:11:58 PM
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Citizen's arrest based on what? You need to tread carefully when doing such a thing.

No, it's simple as pie. If you have grounds to believe that there is a crime going on, and that the criminal may be about to run with the money, you just detain him and leave the matter to the police for investigation. The police cannot fine you unless they find out that Mt.Gox is committing nothing criminal. In the complaint you outline the crimes in such technical precision that the police cannot find them not true without real investigation. So they will have to investigate.

Of course they can summarily decide that you are wrong and the arrest was unlawful, but if Mt.Gox ever is found guilty (which I would say is 99% sure at this point), you will triumph as a hero and Japan police and judicial system is shamed.

This is exactly why citizen's arrest prevails in the legal code. When it's taken away, then there is nothing more to do but whine.

What a shame that this did not happen.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest
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Section 213 of the Criminal Code allows anyone (not only citizens) witnessing any crime in progress to make an arrest. This is called genkouhan (現行犯, meaning in flagrante delicto).[20] Most criminals who attempt to flee, or refuse to identify themselves, can be held until police arrive.[21] However, making a citizen's arrest to prevent petty crime (i.e. illegal assembly, accidental injury, accidental trespass, defamation of character, leaving a parking lot without paying)[22] is false imprisonment per Section 220.[23]


if this is true and the crime can be proven then the hunt is on now by everyone who lost there btc to get mark

go get him

Be funny to see hundreds of people chasing mark all over japan to arrest him (lol)



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May 23, 2014, 11:59:34 PM
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Regarding the latest announcement on the website, it looks like they are announcing a hearing about the "Amended Recognition Petition"..?  Does anybody know what this is?  Does it have to do with the Sunlot agreement? 

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May 24, 2014, 06:16:27 AM
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Citizen's arrest based on what? You need to tread carefully when doing such a thing.

No, it's simple as pie. If you have grounds to believe that there is a crime going on, and that the criminal may be about to run with the money, you just detain him and leave the matter to the police for investigation. The police cannot fine you unless they find out that Mt.Gox is committing nothing criminal. In the complaint you outline the crimes in such technical precision that the police cannot find them not true without real investigation. So they will have to investigate.

Of course they can summarily decide that you are wrong and the arrest was unlawful, but if Mt.Gox ever is found guilty (which I would say is 99% sure at this point), you will triumph as a hero and Japan police and judicial system is shamed.

This is exactly why citizen's arrest prevails in the legal code. When it's taken away, then there is nothing more to do but whine.

What a shame that this did not happen.

I still believe you need to tread carefully when doing this especially if you do not have all the facts and evidence. With mtgox that is hard to determine. As it appears most of the details at the time were not public knowledge.

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May 26, 2014, 03:06:12 AM
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May 26, 2014, 05:44:58 PM
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I don't understand what's going on with these "trustee"-stuff. I got the mail, too. Can someone explain in some steps what I have to do, to get my BTC (or a part of it) back?
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May 26, 2014, 06:24:06 PM
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does anyone have any news on Savegox.com case?
did they got approval from us court of the plan to save MtGox.com?
and there it is: http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-settlement-proposal-granted-key-preliminary-approval/
I asked the Sunlot (non-)PR person, on the Savegox.com thread, for a link to that court ruling.  No answer yet.  Perhaps "preliminary approval" means that they handed over the proposal at the court's front desk, and got a numbered ticket for it.

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May 27, 2014, 10:31:48 AM
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Today I noticed that www.gox.com isn't redirecting anymore to www.mtgox.com. I last checked last wednesday, so somewhere between 21th and 27th someone deleted it.
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May 27, 2014, 06:40:17 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-revival-plan-hit-objection-creditor-coinlab/

some news on the case of Mt.Gox....

One is sure... we have missing BTC ( OUR BTC ) and everybody is playing with us .... nothing clear....

someone or many are getting paid to have all this is my sence.... and of course are getting paid with our stolen Bitcoins.....

as i said is just my feeling.....
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May 29, 2014, 01:48:20 PM
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Today I noticed that www.gox.com isn't redirecting anymore to www.mtgox.com. I last checked last wednesday, so somewhere between 21th and 27th someone deleted it.


also can't find registrar information..... such as for example on mtgox.com that up to now the owner seems to be Mark.....
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May 29, 2014, 04:44:04 PM
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I think it's related to the recent news around the selling of the trademark 'bitcoin' and domain names Tibane is selling as one package. There isn't a list available with domain names in that package, but i think gox.com is in it, so as bitcoins.com.
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May 29, 2014, 05:37:20 PM
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http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/05/28/mt-gox-operator-looks-to-sell-bitcoin-trademarks/
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May 30, 2014, 05:42:18 PM
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who is up for a bet of opening again MtGox or not ?
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May 31, 2014, 03:52:19 PM
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by now, i am totally lost as to what we have to do in order to have any hope of recovering any % of what was lost :/
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May 31, 2014, 07:30:46 PM
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i am in same position.... but i have a strange feeling that MtGox will open again somehow...
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June 01, 2014, 11:50:04 AM
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has anybody else noticed withdraw issues? I tried withdrawing my BTC like a month ago and still nothing!

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June 01, 2014, 12:13:29 PM
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I don't understand what's going on with these "trustee"-stuff. I got the mail, too. Can someone explain in some steps what I have to do, to get my BTC (or a part of it) back?

I am under the impression we have to wait for forms still.  I hope someone on this forum can clear this up, since the notifications are worded with the intent to fuck us over...or so it seems.     
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