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November 08, 2018, 07:58:12 AM
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https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-poloniex-announces-pre-fork-trading-for-bitcoin-cash-split/
Pre-fork trading is available immediately for the following pairs: BCHSV/USDC, BCHABC/USDC, BCHSV/BTC, and BCHABC/BTC. We are also opening up a BCH/USDC market. Customers can convert Bitcoin Cash into equivalent amounts of BCHABC and BCHSV, and also convert SV and ABC back into BCH if they’d like to withdraw funds. Customers can trade immediately, but won’t be able to withdraw BCHABC and BCHSV ahead of the hard fork.

Thanks polo, interesting development..

BCH value will start being split between 3 different versions,, Shocked
I will  be avoiding both abc and sv versions on your exchange and stick to
traditional BCH the real Bitcoin

I just was going to post this. I log into Poloniex and at first I assumed it was Bitfinex since they are the ones who normally do these splitting and combining of pre/post fork coins. I wonder if other exchanges like Bitfinex or Bitmex even will have something similiar, basically what happened in 2017 where we had the Bitcoin Unlimited and the Bitcoin Core split coins.

By the way, traditional BCH, I think they are referring to Bitcoin ABC. So if you think SV will fail you can split your 1 BCH into 1 ABC + 1 SV and just sell your SV right away and after Nov 15, you can withdraw your 1 BCH. I am pretty sure this is the way this will go.

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November 08, 2018, 08:02:43 AM
Last edit: November 08, 2018, 09:11:27 AM by Mrpumperitis
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https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-poloniex-announces-pre-fork-trading-for-bitcoin-cash-split/
Pre-fork trading is available immediately for the following pairs: BCHSV/USDC, BCHABC/USDC, BCHSV/BTC, and BCHABC/BTC. We are also opening up a BCH/USDC market. Customers can convert Bitcoin Cash into equivalent amounts of BCHABC and BCHSV, and also convert SV and ABC back into BCH if they’d like to withdraw funds. Customers can trade immediately, but won’t be able to withdraw BCHABC and BCHSV ahead of the hard fork.

Thanks polo, interesting development..

BCH value will start being split between 3 different versions,, Shocked
I will  be avoiding both abc and sv versions on your exchange and stick to
traditional BCH the real Bitcoin

I just was going to post this. I log into Poloniex and at first I assumed it was Bitfinex since they are the ones who normally do these splitting and combining of pre/post fork coins. I wonder if other exchanges like Bitfinex or Bitmex even will have something similiar, basically what happened in 2017 where we had the Bitcoin Unlimited and the Bitcoin Core split coins.

By the way, traditional BCH, I think they are referring to Bitcoin ABC. So if you think SV will fail you can split your 1 BCH into 1 ABC + 1 SV and just sell your SV right away and after Nov 15, you can withdraw your 1 BCH. I am pretty sure this is the way this will go.
on Polo under USDC, they have 3 BCH versions to buy and sell..
I think we could see 3 version co exist , some how lol
BCH as it is keeps the BCH ticker , the other two will have their own visions now with their own tickers. Smiley
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November 08, 2018, 08:53:10 AM
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Lets see what happens...

This thread remains BCH

Two new threads for , one for abc followers and other for sv followers..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065514.new#new
Bitcoin cash BCHSV

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065513.msg47696575#msg47696575
Bitcoin cash BCHABC
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November 08, 2018, 12:21:39 PM
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Bitcoin Cash got ranked #1 coin to watch by CryptosRUs due to the upcoming hard fork:

https://coincodex.tv/videos/303/top-5-altcoins-with-short-term-potential

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November 08, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
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https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BCHUSD/XdWt8xMA-Bitcoin-Cash-Its-Time-To-Forkin-Grow-Up/


The Fork

The fork has provided your typical pump and dump scenario. Yet this fork may set a precedence moving forward. It was all fun and games last year, like getting a spin-off from ConocoPhillips 0.76% , but moving forward these will be faced with more scrutiny and could even harm the blockchain.

this would only matter if a chain/chains that was not the plaything of psychopaths was subjected to it.

since it's BCH we should expect nothing less. they're boxing themselves into deeper irrelevance. fine by me.

https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/1060522612676268032

I feel bad for the people who went into with the right intentions. the assholes with childish ones outgun them by a long way.
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November 08, 2018, 03:11:20 PM
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Meet http://craft.cash  - a “Minecraft on the blockchain”, stored 100% on Bitcoin Cash blockchain and served with Bitdb and Bitsocket.
Created by a developer named “Jt” (He’s not on social media but you can find him in our telegram chatroom)

https://twitter.com/_unwriter/status/1060544667392114689

Smiley

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November 08, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
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they hurry up !

https://cointelegraph.com/news/mining-giant-bitmain-hurries-to-deploy-90-000-s9-antminers-ahead-of-bitcoin-cash-hard-fork
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November 08, 2018, 05:24:08 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9vabv7/abc_is_shit_sv_is_shit_and_both_compete_on_being/

Der_Bergmann

Yes, I know. Until there is a block, it will just be a network supporting non mining full node, for what it's worth ... maybe I open my RPI-calls for everybody ... if there is a block and a market, I will accept this coin as the only BCH on my website ...

Im with you m8  Smiley
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November 08, 2018, 05:30:45 PM
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Mean while , over at Castle Greyskull  Cheesy

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9v8s53/toddler_the_operators_of_the_liquid_sidechain_can/
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November 08, 2018, 05:59:25 PM
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The two results of BCH hard forks have been listed in Poloniex, I have no idea for this one. BCH continues to make money flow easily and throw it away when it's worthless.
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November 08, 2018, 11:28:10 PM
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Dump your BCH and buy https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-plus/

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November 09, 2018, 12:18:46 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9ve98b/antisplit_wallets_will_result_in_three_different/

If anti-split wallets become the norm it will cause a divergence in price between split and unsplit coins, effectively resulting in three separate prices for BCH:

* one price for coins only valid on the ABC chain

* another price for coins only valid on the SV chain

* a third price for unsplit coins

If most services require unsplit coins, who is going to buy the split coins from the miners? If nobody buys the split coins then what will the miners do?
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November 09, 2018, 07:31:04 AM
Last edit: November 09, 2018, 08:00:44 AM by Mrpumperitis
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqvPJDRm-_0
Why Unified Coin Is Safe On ABC/SV But Not On ETC/ETH
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Published on 8 Nov 2018






Having first hand experience of when, how and why etc was created and the same for BCH...
I can understand why Ryan is thinking the same as what i have been saying recently...

3 BCH versions

1-BCH as it is right now will keep BCH ticker and will remain the closest version to whitepaper.
2 = bchabc will have their coin and new ticker , ctor,dsv and other things will be added and make way for wormhole and more.
3 - bchsv their own coin and new ticker, no ctor,no dsv,no wormhole, led by nchain & csw,lots of patents and other things.

(i could be wrong but afiak this is what is going on)

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November 09, 2018, 08:25:14 AM
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Check out this Bitcoin Cash trading session by Philakone, pretty useful if you are a trader and you wanna learn more Smiley and there's singing involved as well Cheesy

https://coincodex.tv/videos/312/bitcoin-cash-technical-analysis-6-hours-of-trading-tactics

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November 09, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqvPJDRm-_0
Why Unified Coin Is Safe On ABC/SV But Not On ETC/ETH
Ryan X. Charles
Published on 8 Nov 2018






Having first hand experience of when, how and why etc was created and the same for BCH...
I can understand why Ryan is thinking the same as what i have been saying recently...

3 BCH versions

1-BCH as it is right now will keep BCH ticker and will remain the closest version to whitepaper.
2 = bchabc will have their coin and new ticker , ctor,dsv and other things will be added and make way for wormhole and more.
3 - bchsv their own coin and new ticker, no ctor,no dsv,no wormhole, led by nchain & csw,lots of patents and other things.

(i could be wrong but afiak this is what is going on)



thought people cannot fork from bitcoin cash? who are behind these new forks and how are they different from bitcoin cash?
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November 10, 2018, 12:03:53 AM
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you retards are in the msm  Cool

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2018/11/09/1541786925000/The-unholiest-of-holy-wars---Satoshi--vs--Bitcoin-Jesus--/
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November 10, 2018, 07:09:31 AM
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I'm not registering to read the article but the title says it all...

I just don't understand why two grown men with so much money play such twisted con games to achieve even more. Its like, how much is enough? I know you could say the same thing about any modern day robber baron hypercapitalist. Just seems like a bizarre way to spend your time on planet earth.

Anyway I thank their egos for the free entertainment.

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November 10, 2018, 08:14:39 AM
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I'm not registering to read the article but the title says it all...

I just don't understand why two grown men with so much money play such twisted con games to achieve even more. Its like, how much is enough? I know you could say the same thing about any modern day robber baron hypercapitalist. Just seems like a bizarre way to spend your time on planet earth.

Anyway I thank their egos for the free entertainment.



It's not a twisted game, this is how the system works, owners of hash get to decide the outcome, they have skin in the game. I think CSW acts like a dick most of the time, but he's 100% correct when it comes to how governance works with PoW, miners vote with their hash.

It would be better if there isn't a fork into 2 coins, this is like a presidential primary, both sides should fight as hard as they can to convince owners of hash to mine using their client on November 15, but once the battle is over the loser should fall in behind the winning side and support them, we're actually all on the same side. A split just destroys the goal of digital scarcity, the hardcap of 21M coins, it strengthens the arguments of the opponents of crypto.

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November 10, 2018, 08:58:33 AM
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So it looks like there is a crazy discount of almost 9% on the Bitmex future contract for BCH. Usually these futures have a 1-2% premium, never a discount.

I am guessing that algos don't want to arb this because they would buy the future contract and need to sell BCH on another exchange. They don't want to do this for 2 reasons.

1) They don't get their forked coins after Nov 15

2) If they borrow BCH and sell it, they might have to end up covering BCH ABC and BCH SV.

There is a crazy funding rate even on Bitfinex currently at 0.20% per day and it was 0.48% a few times today even.

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November 10, 2018, 09:16:19 AM
Last edit: November 10, 2018, 09:43:11 AM by Last of the V8s
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I'm not registering to read the article but the title says it all...

I just don't understand why two grown men with so much money play such twisted con games to achieve even more. Its like, how much is enough? I know you could say the same thing about any modern day robber baron hypercapitalist. Just seems like a bizarre way to spend your time on planet earth.

Anyway I thank their egos for the free entertainment.



It's not a twisted game, this is how the system works, owners of hash get to decide the outcome, they have skin in the game. I think CSW acts like a dick most of the time, but he's 100% correct when it comes to how governance works with PoW, miners vote with their hash.

It would be better if there isn't a fork into 2 coins, this is like a presidential primary, both sides should fight as hard as they can to convince owners of hash to mine using their client on November 15, but once the battle is over the loser should fall in behind the winning side and support them, we're actually all on the same side. A split just destroys the goal of digital scarcity, the hardcap of 21M coins, it strengthens the arguments of the opponents of crypto.

Here's the article archived https://archive.is/7rwQ6 not that it's of much substance.

Hey what's with the pyramid scheme in your signature? Inniative Q?

All the scams making you stupid bro? People get red-tagged for supporting these scams...


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