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February 27, 2014, 03:18:09 PM
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The music, art aspect - yeah this originated from mid-last year ....

It originated and seemed settled, yet here it is again. Not only here but on the new forum as well. Coincidence?

It would be one of my three wishes that literature and art could fall under Open Source yet they do not. Full stop.

It is being suggested yet again that we take Devcoin, the supposedly ethical coin, and change the concept of supporting open source developers? That sounds very unethical to me. It is my feeling that other open source developers would feel the same being drawn here under false pretenses.

If one likes the concept of Devcoin and would like to support the Creative Common license in the same way then create Commoncoin instead of trying to undermining Devcoin.

There is nothing to stop folks from putting out bounties for graphics and music contributions under Public Domain and Creative Commons licenses to add to their Open Source projects. Like a game for example. They could be rewarded in DVC. Life is wonderful. But Devcoin was put in place to support Open Source developers. You know those programmers like MarkM that made the coin a reality in the first place? Now that it exists those practicing in arts that cannot even fall under Open Source want to redirect it? If that is not unethical it is hard to say what is.

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"Devcoin is an ethically inspired cryptocurrency created in 2011 to support open source projects by programmers, hardware developers, writers, musicians, painters, graphic artists and filmmakers worldwide."

This direct quote from the official Devcoin website can be seen as "unethically"misleading then.  I'm not disagreeing with Nova on this, just pointing out that some people may see this as mixed signals of what the website says and what the forum decisions are.  I love and appreciate the chance, as a writer, to be involved with DVC and I'm here for the long haul regardless of the direction it takes, but if it's not going to include artists and musicians, then it should clearly say that and not draw these people under false pretenses as well.

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   Some form of Demurrage or a Devcoin tax could help move the currency in a controlled manner, by distributing a specific percentage in a predetermined way For example, everyone giving 5% of their earning or like in demurrage a fixed schedule of depreciation going towards a decentralized market. it could help ameliorate the problem of lost coins in a fixed quantity currency.

It could be made within the Devcoin client, a p2p market, where your coins join the pool of  Devcoin account holders in distributing the coins to exchanges, or faucets, or even much needed projects, basically, I'm thinking of adding concensus driven government inside the client to manage the growth of the currency. we make the choices on where to distribute the funds collectively, with our combined purchasing power we could open up new markets for Devcoin.

Maybe even start making automation rules for the currency to react in a specific way to changes in the network, we would have to figure out how to transfer into other currencies probably through OT, simply signing a transaction record on the OT server into the Devcoin blochain on a transaction can give us p2p exchange capability. All the customer has to do is download the OT contract, redeem it at a local Devcoin exchanger, sign the transaction when receiving the funds and walla, p2p exchange.

I suddenly realized it could be easier than we think to create  a distributed exchange when using OT and simply creating verifiable in the blockchain OT receipts. We could even build OT into Devcoin! for not just money transfers but for deeds, and property rights.

We can have a product that no other crypto currency has yet... simplicity, ease of use , accesibility, and extreme flexibility, I think we can create a craigs list exchange market on the Devcoin blockchain using OT.

Their is a ancient system called Hawala, that is very similar to this, an informal payment system, it could be funny to apply a similar system for blockchain property rights. They do it with phones and if you have the right code they give you the money, how hard can it be to buy goods over the blockchain? List your stereo, mark it's serial number hash in the purchase transaction to escrow, pick up day comes, the person with the receiving code unlocks the escrow transaction, transaction is made with OT receipt both parties have a permanent receipt with property rights contract transferred into the blockchain.

I can see myself purchasing something quickly over a Blockchain based marketplace, buying it online for friends and family to receive, near or far, from the comfort of my cell phone, assured that only their signature can unlock the purchase transaction, pre-paid goods over the blockchain. I figured it's not that hard when you realize all a Blockchain is, is a shared synchronized database.


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February 27, 2014, 08:03:46 PM
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is there a thread or article on th economics of devcoin? the more Ithink about it, the more it seems me a solid investment. Smiley
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February 27, 2014, 11:03:06 PM
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   Some form of Demurrage or a Devcoin tax could help move the currency in a controlled manner, by distributing a specific percentage in a predetermined way For example, everyone giving 5% of their earning or like in demurrage a fixed schedule of depreciation going towards a decentralized market. it could help ameliorate the problem of lost coins in a fixed quantity currency.

It could be made within the Devcoin client, a p2p market, where your coins join the pool of  Devcoin account holders in distributing the coins to exchanges, or faucets, or even much needed projects, basically, I'm thinking of adding concensus driven government inside the client to manage the growth of the currency. we make the choices on where to distribute the funds collectively, with our combined purchasing power we could open up new markets for Devcoin.

Maybe even start making automation rules for the currency to react in a specific way to changes in the network, we would have to figure out how to transfer into other currencies probably through OT, simply signing a transaction record on the OT server into the Devcoin blochain on a transaction can give us p2p exchange capability. All the customer has to do is download the OT contract, redeem it at a local Devcoin exchanger, sign the transaction when receiving the funds and walla, p2p exchange.

I suddenly realized it could be easier than we think to create  a distributed exchange when using OT and simply creating verifiable in the blockchain OT receipts. We could even build OT into Devcoin! for not just money transfers but for deeds, and property rights.

We can have a product that no other crypto currency has yet... simplicity, ease of use , accesibility, and extreme flexibility, I think we can create a craigs list exchange market on the Devcoin blockchain using OT.

Their is a ancient system called Hawala, that is very similar to this, an informal payment system, it could be funny to apply a similar system for blockchain property rights. They do it with phones and if you have the right code they give you the money, how hard can it be to buy goods over the blockchain? List your stereo, mark it's serial number hash in the purchase transaction to escrow, pick up day comes, the person with the receiving code unlocks the escrow transaction, transaction is made with OT receipt both parties have a permanent receipt with property rights contract transferred into the blockchain.

I can see myself purchasing something quickly over a Blockchain based marketplace, buying it online for friends and family to receive, near or far, from the comfort of my cell phone, assured that only their signature can unlock the purchase transaction, pre-paid goods over the blockchain. I figured it's not that hard when you realize all a Blockchain is, is a shared synchronized database.



Yes there was a simple site does this escrow service Ill see if I can find it.. i like the idea.
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February 28, 2014, 12:53:48 AM
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Developers wanted for glaricoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465311

Merged Mining capability
Charity Function (11%)

The coin is build on ABCcoin described here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide&s[]=clone

To make it avalable to all comunity the procedure for both functions should be documented on devtome.

Thank you



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February 28, 2014, 08:23:50 AM
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Developers wanted for glaricoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465311

Merged Mining capability
Charity Function (11%)

The coin is build on ABCcoin described here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide&s[]=clone

To make it avalable to all comunity the procedure for both functions should be documented on devtome.

Thank you
Seems pointless https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=415705.msg4511087#msg4511087
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February 28, 2014, 11:51:25 AM
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Developers wanted for glaricoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465311

Merged Mining capability
Charity Function (11%)

The coin is build on ABCcoin described here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide&s[]=clone

To make it avalable to all comunity the procedure for both functions should be documented on devtome.

Thank you
Seems pointless https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=415705.msg4511087#msg4511087

Not realy, orgcoin is not switzerland related like glaricoin is, but download the glaricoin-qt client and you will understand Smiley Anyway we got the offer from unthinkingbit that every developer that furfills one of the above tasks, will be supported as developer by devcoin.

Unthinkingbit please confirm.

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March 01, 2014, 01:53:03 AM
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Developers wanted for glaricoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465311

Merged Mining capability
Charity Function (11%)

The coin is build on ABCcoin described here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide&s[]=clone

To make it avalable to all comunity the procedure for both functions should be documented on devtome.

Thank you
Seems pointless https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=415705.msg4511087#msg4511087

Not realy, orgcoin is not switzerland related like glaricoin is, but download the glaricoin-qt client and you will understand Smiley Anyway we got the offer from unthinkingbit that every developer that furfills one of the above tasks, will be supported as developer by devcoin.

Unthinkingbit please confirm.

Why would he be developer of devcoin? devcoin != glaricoin, bitcoin maybe but I thought they needed multiple projects before being considered bitcoin devs.
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March 01, 2014, 01:08:36 PM
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OS Hardware Store UK - http://oshardwarestore.co.uk/ - launches today: pay with Devcoin and get a discount!

Stocking a range of tools and components for hobby electronics, open source hardware development and prototyping.

Shipping is to the UK mainland only, but I am finalizing a partnership agreement to hopefully launch a US store within 6 months.

Payment options:
  • Paypal - Full Price
  • Bitcoin - 1% Discount
  • Devcoin - 2.5% Discount

Devcoin and Bitcoin orders will be processed by CoinPayments.net.

On launch the product range is a bit limited, but I am committed to building it up as quickly as possible. Currently you will find:

  • Electronics tools
  • Arduino shields / accessories
  • Sensors and actuators
  • 3D printing parts
  • HDMI Accessories

In the future I plan to add a range of DIY home automation products and more home AV stuff, as well as increasing the range of components for open source projects and adding a few more tools. I may also add computer components. If there are any particular types of product you would like to see then please feel free to post a request here and I will see what I can do.

Up until the end of March you can enter 'coinzen' as a discount code at the checkout to receive an additional 2% discount (1 use per person, no minimum order amount, discount applied to final price including P&P).
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March 01, 2014, 03:56:39 PM
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  Hi,

  Live Devcoin Price Chart for Your Website

   We have created a series of free Live Interactive Cryptocurrency Charts which you can use on your website  (Dogecoin, Litecoin, DevCoin, Lottocoin, Quark ... 130 cryptocurrencies).
   It will display live prices for a selected cryptocurrency with graphics price changes on your website.

   


  Devcoin price chart which you can place on your website  - http://myip.ms/info/chartbox/m/40#c


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    New Live Devcoin Chart Functionality - 
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         You can place this free live Devcoin price chart on your websitehttp://myip.ms/info/chartbox/m/40#c

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March 01, 2014, 04:23:15 PM
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I notice that the number of Devtome contributors has shot up by 40 over the last month. With this new influx of content, is any additional help needed to review and categorize articles and the like? If so I'd be happy to help out. I have very much enjoyed contributing content for Devtome over the last two rounds, and I'd like to be able to do more to contribute to the community.
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March 01, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
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Developers wanted for glaricoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465311

Merged Mining capability
Charity Function (11%)

The coin is build on ABCcoin described here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide&s[]=clone

To make it avalable to all comunity the procedure for both functions should be documented on devtome.

Thank you
Seems pointless https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=415705.msg4511087#msg4511087

Not realy, orgcoin is not switzerland related like glaricoin is, but download the glaricoin-qt client and you will understand Smiley Anyway we got the offer from unthinkingbit that every developer that furfills one of the above tasks, will be supported as developer by devcoin.

Unthinkingbit please confirm.
I'm not swiss. And there doesn't seem to be anything open source developery about just replicating shakezula's howto process and asking for devs to (I assume) work out the merged mined bit.
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March 01, 2014, 07:01:56 PM
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http://bluecoinstock.com/markets/DVC_BTC
http://bluecoinstock.com/market/DVC_BTC/Cryptsy
http://bluecoinstock.com/market/DVC_BTC/Vircurex

http://bluecoinstock.com/markets/DVC_LTC
http://bluecoinstock.com/market/DVC_LTC/BTER
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March 01, 2014, 09:16:01 PM
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I have not read the Devcoin thread since around Christmas Are there any new submission rules to Devtome I missed?

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March 02, 2014, 12:11:54 AM
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Hello, since I've been recently spending a lot of time on Coinzen, I may have missed some bounties.  Was anything proposed or claimed?

Thanks
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Hello, since I've been recently spending a lot of time on Coinzen, I may have missed some bounties.  Was anything proposed or claimed?

Thanks
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Not that I know of, the one we were talkin gabout was from before the migration... I think you must have forgotten about it. It was previously in limbo aswell because it wasn't captured when it was first posted... once we have a better way to report/admin/display bounties it will probably be better.
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March 02, 2014, 01:31:34 AM
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Developers wanted for glaricoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465311

Merged Mining capability
Charity Function (11%)

The coin is build on ABCcoin described here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=sha256_altcoin_cloning_guide&s[]=clone

To make it avalable to all comunity the procedure for both functions should be documented on devtome.

Thank you
Seems pointless https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=415705.msg4511087#msg4511087

Not realy, orgcoin is not switzerland related like glaricoin is, but download the glaricoin-qt client and you will understand Smiley Anyway we got the offer from unthinkingbit that every developer that furfills one of the above tasks, will be supported as developer by devcoin.

Unthinkingbit please confirm.
I'm not swiss. And there doesn't seem to be anything open source developery about just replicating shakezula's howto process and asking for devs to (I assume) work out the merged mined bit.

You badly miss the point here, this is about the documentation for adding various features to abccoin, what was used by shakezula for the howto. I guess abccoin is a good 0.8.x basis for coding all kind of coins. What devtome does miss actualy are the howto's.

Personaly i see many guys creating coins, so it would be great to provide them good documentation.
Instead of deleting articles on devtome we should expand them, dnt you mean?

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You badly miss the point here, this is about the documentation for adding various features to abccoin, what was used by shakezula for the howto. I guess abccoin is a good 0.8.x basis for coding all kind of coins. What devtome does miss actualy are the howto's.

Personaly i see many guys creating coins, so it would be great to provide them good documentation.
Instead of deleting articles on devtome we should expand them, dnt you mean?
If I'm missing the point, that's because you haven't explained it.

From what I understand of what you've said, you've used Shak's guide to clone a coin and you want to add merge mining to it. Sidhujag is updating that process with newer codebase so already has rolling documentation, and UTB has already documented the initial devcoin basics done by him and markm.

So that leaves a process of cloning a clone, which is what I'm referring to as not progression in terms of open source development.

If I'm missing your new features and developments that would warrant new documentation and support then please explain it. I don't know the 'deleting articles' refers to.
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There wasnt any documentation for the merged mining it was used from namecoin.. but the other stuff like reciever file stuff is nicely documented by utb.
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