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September 09, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
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I support updating the website and I think that having a three person judging panel is an excellent idea for getting different perspectives.  It is my opinion that since DVC was founded with developers and OS in mind, it is imperative that the website be the most engaging, aesthetically pleasing site out there. 


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September 09, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
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On the website, I'm all for iterative progress - trial, error, improvement, progress - that's sort of devcoin's entire thing imo. And an multi-step update process is a good way to involve multiple interests/skills (art, marketing, design, development). It might be nice to do it in train with hypersire though, who ofered and built the current himself for free, or at least give him a heads up in case he has his own thoughts? That doesn't mean any limit to completely new ideas or updated aesthetics on current, only that it seems to make sense to involve the current website admin and developer in any prospective changes. But I'm not a web developer so again someone can tell me if I'm wrong on that basic outlook on how these things get done.

By all means he should get a heads up, but one thing I don't want to happen is for people to get overly attached to the creations they give over to the collective fold. If someone comes along with a better dvccountdown (not difficult, I promise you), I will be happy that someone took that further...it's the OS way, and personally, even validates my work more than shares do. Much of the content on the current devcoin site can, and should, be reused, plus the improvements, but ultimately giving people complete freedom allows the most creative and innovative solutions to appear. I thought Hypersire got bounty shares for the initial site, but I could be mistaken. If he's happy to continue web admin, then great, he can still maintain the website that's there, but also has a chance to submit ideas in a mockup design. He would also be a prime candidate for designers to seek to split bounties with if their design is picked.

One of the recognizable downsides of the bounty system is that they are discrete - usually winner takes all, and I don't really know what a good solution to that is without consolation prizes, which bring their own problems. As long as the reward outweighs the risk (of not being picked/winner), people should still decide to submit. 99designs works this way (crowd-funded design work, usually winner takes all), and doesn't seem short on designers...I think what makes it work is the smaller risk at the start - ie quick mockups that quickly eliminate things going completely down the wrong path, so less time overall is wasted. The judge idea is loosely related to this system.

I know hyper's still responsive to pms, but I'm not sure if he's watching the thread atm.

Sounds good - i can offer to judge if its ok

The criteria in my opinion, should be as follows,

Modern,
Considers devcoin colors and design,
Should be interactive,
Easy to read,
Understandable,
Include info (faq) about basics of devcoin in an easy reach
Load quickly
Not heavy on the eye

Great, I'll put you as the first judge then. Regarding criteria, once the other two judges make themselves known you three can figure these out amongst yourselves and present the final criteria. You can do many-recipient messages in bitcointalk pretty easily, or any other chat you find convenient. If any issues come up with the panel I'll aide you guys in reaching a resolution. I don't to make this too formal, but just saying because you never know Smiley.
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September 09, 2014, 05:32:11 PM
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By all means he should get a heads up, but one thing I don't want to happen is for people to get overly attached to the creations they give over to the collective fold...I know hyper's still responsive to pms, but I'm not sure if he's watching the thread atm.
Completely agree. The heads up is all I meant as also don't see him about much. You might be right about bounties, was originally started as pro bono but I don't remember now.

serejandmyself: No I think most alt threads are just under 'Alternate cryptocurrencies'. I have this one bookmarked but it's now in a subforum called 'Announcements' that I never browse, and I guess many others don't either. So it doesn't help for visibility.
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September 12, 2014, 10:33:22 AM
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Come on everyone, don't be shy, I was expecting more participation than this. We need 2 more judges for the website revamp competition, easy job, no pressure, serejandmyself and myself (and myself) will do all the coordination, you just have to turn up. If it even slightly takes your fancy put your hand up! You get to crush people's dreams!!
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September 12, 2014, 12:15:10 PM
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Come on everyone, don't be shy, I was expecting more participation than this. We need 2 more judges for the website revamp competition, easy job, no pressure, serejandmyself and myself (and myself) will do all the coordination, you just have to turn up. If it even slightly takes your fancy put your hand up! You get to crush people's dreams!!

I would be happy to, but I do not feel I have the technical skill set to judge other people's work in this area.  Maybe we should post this on Coinzen as well.

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September 12, 2014, 01:24:42 PM
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Come on everyone, don't be shy, I was expecting more participation than this. We need 2 more judges for the website revamp competition, easy job, no pressure, serejandmyself and myself (and myself) will do all the coordination, you just have to turn up. If it even slightly takes your fancy put your hand up! You get to crush people's dreams!!

I'll help judge.
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September 12, 2014, 02:29:52 PM
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Finally people are waking up!  Grin Grin Grin

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September 13, 2014, 08:54:07 AM
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I would be happy to, but I do not feel I have the technical skill set to judge other people's work in this area.  Maybe we should post this on Coinzen as well.

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That's ok, it's about aesthetics as much as technical ability in this particular case. Unless there are no specific objections, you're the second judge.

Come on everyone, don't be shy, I was expecting more participation than this. We need 2 more judges for the website revamp competition, easy job, no pressure, serejandmyself and myself (and myself) will do all the coordination, you just have to turn up. If it even slightly takes your fancy put your hand up! You get to crush people's dreams!!

I'll help judge.

Great, thanks ranlo.

So we have our three judges: serejandmyself, papacrusher and ranlo. Since serejandmyself was the instigator and first judge, he'll be the coordinator. Are you ok with that serej?

What you need to do next is come up with a list of criteria for what you want the site to be, and they don't have to just be technical criteria. Aesthetic criteria are important too - how should it look, other sites comparable, etc. You can be specific, or airey fairy, its up to you, although the more specific you are, the better for designers. You can discuss that here or in pms (you can do a 3-way chat pretty easily on the forum), and once you have a list you're satisfied with, which you think reasonable for a designer, post it here and we'll give it a bounty and deadline for mockups.

What does everyone think about share awards for designs? I'm thinking it might encourage more actual submissions, so if there's a general consensus, I'll propose 1 winning design award of 6 shares, and 2 consolation awards of 3 shares each, for designs the judges like but don't pick. Those consolation awards don't have to be given out, they're only there to reward a good design that didn't win. The full site bounty will then be assessed and proposed based on the estimated time to complete it, and only awarded upon completion. The unique thing about this bounty, is that the designer will have exclusive rights to work on the bounty as proposed, for a period of time we set once we estimate how long it'll take, and then it'll be open to all (to implement the winning design).

If no designs are submitted before the design deadline, we will double the design awards and set another one. How does that sound? Any changes?
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September 13, 2014, 10:25:17 AM
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It sounds good. Things are happening.

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September 13, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
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Happy to judge a site from a general user perspective.

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September 13, 2014, 01:04:04 PM
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https://vps.vircurex.com/welcome/index?base=dvc&alt=btc

I can't view this link,what happen?

SSL connection error

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September 13, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
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https://vps.vircurex.com/welcome/index?base=dvc&alt=btc
is this the only place to trade?

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September 13, 2014, 02:23:13 PM
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no, please trade on cyptsy is much safer

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September 13, 2014, 02:25:38 PM
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I would be happy to, but I do not feel I have the technical skill set to judge other people's work in this area.  Maybe we should post this on Coinzen as well.

Papa

That's ok, it's about aesthetics as much as technical ability in this particular case. Unless there are no specific objections, you're the second judge.

Come on everyone, don't be shy, I was expecting more participation than this. We need 2 more judges for the website revamp competition, easy job, no pressure, serejandmyself and myself (and myself) will do all the coordination, you just have to turn up. If it even slightly takes your fancy put your hand up! You get to crush people's dreams!!

I'll help judge.

Great, thanks ranlo.

So we have our three judges: serejandmyself, papacrusher and ranlo. Since serejandmyself was the instigator and first judge, he'll be the coordinator. Are you ok with that serej?

What you need to do next is come up with a list of criteria for what you want the site to be, and they don't have to just be technical criteria. Aesthetic criteria are important too - how should it look, other sites comparable, etc. You can be specific, or airey fairy, its up to you, although the more specific you are, the better for designers. You can discuss that here or in pms (you can do a 3-way chat pretty easily on the forum), and once you have a list you're satisfied with, which you think reasonable for a designer, post it here and we'll give it a bounty and deadline for mockups.

What does everyone think about share awards for designs? I'm thinking it might encourage more actual submissions, so if there's a general consensus, I'll propose 1 winning design award of 6 shares, and 2 consolation awards of 3 shares each, for designs the judges like but don't pick. Those consolation awards don't have to be given out, they're only there to reward a good design that didn't win. The full site bounty will then be assessed and proposed based on the estimated time to complete it, and only awarded upon completion. The unique thing about this bounty, is that the designer will have exclusive rights to work on the bounty as proposed, for a period of time we set once we estimate how long it'll take, and then it'll be open to all (to implement the winning design).

If no designs are submitted before the design deadline, we will double the design awards and set another one. How does that sound? Any changes?

Ok no probs, i'd say i contact the 2 people involved first and discuss with them their thoughts. And we come up with a list of critirea in a number of days

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September 13, 2014, 07:59:33 PM
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no, please trade on cyptsy is much safer
or https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?base=dvc&alt=btc, https://crypto-trade.com/currencies/trade/dvc_btc
Vircurex has had issues although I still use it personally, but wouldn't advocate a particular exchange.
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September 14, 2014, 02:04:53 AM
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https://vps.vircurex.com/welcome/index?base=dvc&alt=btc

I can't view this link,what happen?

SSL connection error

Just remove the vps from the url...looks like a subdomain issue.

https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?base=dvc&alt=btc

Ok no probs, i'd say i contact the 2 people involved first and discuss with them their thoughts. And we come up with a list of critirea in a number of days

Great, any problems send me a pm / bring it up here.
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September 14, 2014, 02:31:45 AM
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Random Devcoin animation.

Newsam just messaged me on coinzen with an animation he made. It has 80's music, style and cinematography, and I really liked it (not sure if on purpose or due to tech on hand). Maybe it's just nostalgia...I miss the 80s...so much character. Anyway, I thought I would share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B0VcyIzg6Q&feature=youtu.be
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September 14, 2014, 06:25:40 AM
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Random Devcoin animation.

Newsam just messaged me on coinzen with an animation he made. It has 80's music, style and cinematography, and I really liked it (not sure if on purpose or due to tech on hand). Maybe it's just nostalgia...I miss the 80s...so much character. Anyway, I thought I would share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B0VcyIzg6Q&feature=youtu.be


Cool! Is that your work?

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September 14, 2014, 06:28:07 AM
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Is there any good news or updates of DVC?
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September 14, 2014, 11:44:15 AM
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Random Devcoin animation.

Newsam just messaged me on coinzen with an animation he made. It has 80's music, style and cinematography, and I really liked it (not sure if on purpose or due to tech on hand). Maybe it's just nostalgia...I miss the 80s...so much character. Anyway, I thought I would share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B0VcyIzg6Q&feature=youtu.be


Cool! Is that your work?

Not mine, Newsam sent it to me (coinzen member) and I liked it so shared it Smiley.

Is there any good news or updates of DVC?

Not sure whether you consider it good news or not, but big changes happening to the share list distribution in the coming rounds. You can read all about it here: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_division_proposal, lots of things happening, including new community fund taking out about 40% supply of coins too to ease sell pressure a little bit, with various intended uses. All in the proposal.
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