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June 19, 2015, 04:06:41 PM
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Your reinstatement request has been made wiser and Melodiemuse.

- Nova

It looks like I didn't receive any earnings (file custodian, marketing) for Round 46 either.

Is there any database to see this easily again, so we can see what the amounts are for? I'd like to see if mine are credited properly but the old site is down now.
https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/account_47.csv

Wow... I wish I'd have checked this sooner. I'm missing a LOT of things for round 45, 46 and 47 (didn't go back further than this). 46 and 47 I'm not even on the list. In 45, it missed my file custodian and something else. Who are we supposed to bring this up to?

Hi ranlo,

Currently Melodiemuse is listed as Earning Administrator. That would be a good place to start things. She can then take it up with the Earning Factorum, Alyssa85, if need be. If not resolved then please let me know.

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June 19, 2015, 04:09:36 PM
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OK who's in charge in here? let's talk about what to do of this coin before it really dies.
First of all, why don't we introduce the halving just as btc. Should be about time now.

anche check your coinzen forum, someone is spamming it like a garbage bin.

Hi Arbitrageur,

You can find the Devcoin Human Resources page via:

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_human_resources

Input welcome on coinzen.com. Just open up a thread with your thoughts and would be happy to join in.

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June 19, 2015, 04:20:27 PM
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Really? Do you have any proof of your statement? if there really went more than 100k $ into development there should be a bigger impact of progress for Devcoin than it is/was.  Undecided i am still a big DVC hodler.

More then 100k $ of revenues from mining went into development, only in the last year, and what did you accomplish?
154k $ market cap, you are a bunch of thieves!

Simple: in a year devcoin has 2.5B new coins mined, 2B of which goes to devs. In may last year devcoin was worth 20 satoshi and fell all along the way to 4 (I believe it's the same devs selling most of their monthly check). Let's assume 10 satoshi average price at a 350$ avg bitcoin price: 2B*350*0.00000010 = 70k usd. Not far from the 100k estimate by lechatnoir.

Now, assuming devcoin remains at these prices around 5 satoshi with btc at 250 for the next year, it's only 25k, less than 2500 a month. how many people split these revenues? what do they do with it? why don't they move their ass to push the price of this coin north of 20 satoshi with some real development that revives the community?


Hi Arbitrageur,

Have your visited DevTome? My guess is the lion's share of DevCoins have gone to writing shares. Hunterbunter has proposed a change up to share splitting, which should be coming online shortly by my understanding, that would lessen that distribution. Yet for the last while DevTome has been the main project of DVC, with some programming bounties as well of course.

Here is one uplifting story of how DVCs changed a life....

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=how_i_spent_my_devcoins_in_africa

- Nova

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June 19, 2015, 04:39:04 PM
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even with the devs under hibernation the price is slowly going up, I'm impressed. are they secretly buying from their freeze cell before announcing a comeback? usually that's the way devs make money: promise amazing things, pump the price and sell the coins, once the are done, disappoint the buyers, undergo hibernation, buy the lows, make a comeback, new promises again, pump up the price, sell to the gullible public... rinse and repeat.

Hi Arbitrageur,

It is interesting to be sitting somewhat on the inside and seeing your observations from the outside. They may seem valid yet it is my belief that no funny business is going on in the inner sanctum. Smiley

The transition from UTB to Hunterbunter has not been the smoothest for the access issues which have been discussed on the thread. These issues are being addressed to my understanding or at least discussed. My feeling is that the plans Hunterbunter has for DVC are good ones. He has taken things to the point he can at the moment due to access, yet to my understanding is pressing on to iron out the ruff spots.

The slow rise from the single digit value is probably due more to people realizing that this is a great time to buy! Imagine buying now and it rises to even its stable 0.00000040 of the past. Wink

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And I'll echo the sentiment that has been hinted at here, which is that whoever the Devcoin developers are now, can you please "stand up?" I realize devs have better things to do than spend a lot of time on forums, but... a brief update post once or twice a week goes a long way.

wiser the Devcoin Human Resources page is nearly current. Two Admins should be added shortly; Flam and iluveunc. You can find their duties from old versions of that page. Everyone else should be at their post. Wink

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Hunterbunter's role and proposed changes were made clear months ago by him and by UTB. He put quite a bit of time into information and suggestions, and there were comments by people posting recently claiming not to know.

Sidhujag, myself and others proposed changes to alter the dynamics and avoid reaching an inevitable stasis. Many put a lot of effort into various working aspects with their own constructive opinions. They were dismissed by the few, largely out of economic ignorance and personal greed. Hopefully recent changes and renewed input by HB, Nova and others can turn things around, and personally I don't have a lot of time for admins, recipients and writers who take little interest beyond their own benefit or input, then moan about it.

The simple ethos of Devcoin is something beyond easy gain or skewed monetary advantage of a pyramid like most cryptos. Making it a success requires adhering to that ethos of community involvement and thinking further forward than the latest receiver file.

Well said!

- Nova

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DVC price should have been 3X more than price XRP
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DVC price should have been 3X more than price XRP
XRP is just well done marketing debt scam Wink it will fail over time.

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thanks for answering novocadian, appreciated.
8 bid was hit on over 2btc, and there we soon have another bid for 30m dvc.
definitely someone is accumulating.
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And I'll echo the sentiment that has been hinted at here, which is that whoever the Devcoin developers are now, can you please "stand up?" I realize devs have better things to do than spend a lot of time on forums, but... a brief update post once or twice a week goes a long way.

wiser the Devcoin Human Resources page is nearly current. Two Admins should be added shortly; Flam and iluveunc. You can find their duties from old versions of that page. Everyone else should be at their post. Wink

- Nova



Nice to hear that, thanks ! I made a new account account on coinzen (same aka) if needed.




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June 23, 2015, 01:41:46 AM
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As another poster had mentioned, we continue to have spam bombardments on coinzen.com. Efforts will be made to ensure that no email domains have been caught up in the massive amount of bannings that have resulted as a consequence. The forum is taking up too much of my time which could be directed towards HR Admin duties. It would not break my heart to see it go.

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Once I did log into CoinZen, I remembered why I'd stayed away for so long before. It was the overwhelming number of spam posts. It was hard to find any useful information there.

I do have a good workaround for that, though. I can simply go to "show posts" for various admins who I would want to know what they are saying, such as yourself or HunterBunter.

Would you mind posting the link again to where all the current admins are listed? I'll bookmark it. Thanks.

This is not meant as a new requirement, to visit coinzen.com, yet a trusted means of communication is required among Admins and that needs to be agreed upon.
- Nova

I would recommend some kind of email list or email group--just something that is very good about sending communication to an inbox that we already check. Some of us are involved in multiple projects and there's a limit to how many separate places we remember to log in regularly--at least that's true for me Smiley

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As another poster had mentioned, we continue to have spam bombardments on coinzen.com. Efforts will be made to ensure that no email domains have been caught up in the massive amount of bannings that have resulted as a consequence. The forum is taking up too much of my time which could be directed towards HR Admin duties. It would not break my heart to see it go.

- Nova

Once I did log into CoinZen, I remembered why I'd stayed away for so long before. It was the overwhelming number of spam posts. It was hard to find any useful information there.

I do have a good workaround for that, though. I can simply go to "show posts" for various admins who I would want to know what they are saying, such as yourself or HunterBunter.

Would you mind posting the link again to where all the current admins are listed? I'll bookmark it. Thanks.

This is not meant as a new requirement, to visit coinzen.com, yet a trusted means of communication is required among Admins and that needs to be agreed upon.
- Nova

I would recommend some kind of email list or email group--just something that is very good about sending communication to an inbox that we already check. Some of us are involved in multiple projects and there's a limit to how many separate places we remember to log in regularly--at least that's true for me Smiley

I second this. Sending me emails works -- but I work on around 10 different projects now in various capacities.
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Hi all, hopefully all your questions have been answered thanks to weisoq's and Nova's informative posts. I'll reiterate again that Nova is the new HR admin, and if you're not getting paid what you think you should be, take it up with him first.

As sidhujag mentioned we basically don't have an active dev on the client; he was the last one to work on the code, and the coin price has been too low to attract any devs to work on it. If the price continues to rise that will likely change.

My abilities as leader are essentially limited to what I can do with the ongoing file. This is the list of admin pay. Accounting itself is still done by Unthinkingbit, who still maintains the charity github.

I have begun work on the division proposal code, and when it's ready I'll let you all have a good look at it before a final round of feedback and implementation. Because I don't have access to account.py itself, I will create a script that modifies ongoing with the shares necessary to make the proposal work. If you have any questions about that, I'm happy to answer them.

Ranlo (Raptorek): I've added you back to ongoing, as unthinkingbit passed your message on to me. You hopefully realize by now what happened to your payments.

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July 26, 2015, 07:59:46 PM
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Do we really need the coinzen.com forum?

The traffic is minimal at best.

It takes a good hour a day to battle the spam attacks we are getting.

Communication is breaking down among our admins and it dilutes the traffic of new users, to the point that a mailing list has been set up to try to bring the admins into one area of communication.

My proposal is that we close it and point the traffic here.

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This is the announcements section, for gosh sakes! It takes about how many seconds/minutes for threads to scroll off the page?

I never even tried to look at this section almost since it was created, regarding it as just a trash can full of yet another new dozen coins of the day every day spam.

I have actually tried looking at this section a lot lately, but still it took weeks or months to happen to see this thread and thus realise devcoin even still bothers with a thread here.

Sometimes in the past I have tried to keep a browser tab on threads I hope to keep track of, but after a while the tabs get so tiny their labels are illegible.

Bookmarks are even worse, it has literally been years, maybe even a decade or more, since I actually went into bookmarks to see what I might once upon a time have filed away there thinking I'd thus get back to it.

The altcoins sections of bitcointalk are less and less useful all the time, more and more just full of useless garbage.

So Coinzen has a value, I think.

(Though I see entire sections there I doubt I will ever look at. Maybe those are full of garbage too, I don't know. Why do we even have sections there for coins that are totally unrelated to DeVCoin? I mean I can see where all the coins that can be merged mined with DeVCoin are relevant so we can upkeep all those coins to mine them all at once, but I have to wonder why some of the coins that have sections there are there. Though I can't recall what they are even, I just vaguely recall once upon a time noticing seemingly random accretions of coins that didn't seem to have any particular relevance to DeVCoin.)

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This is the announcements section, for gosh sakes! It takes about how many seconds/minutes for threads to scroll off the page?

I never even tried to look at this section almost since it was created, regarding it as just a trash can full of yet another new dozen coins of the day every day spam.

I have actually tried looking at this section a lot lately, but still it took weeks or months to happen to see this thread and thus realise devcoin even still bothers with a thread here.

Sometimes in the past I have tried to keep a browser tab on threads I hope to keep track of, but after a while the tabs get so tiny their labels are illegible.

Bookmarks are even worse, it has literally been years, maybe even a decade or more, since I actually went into bookmarks to see what I might once upon a time have filed away there thinking I'd thus get back to it.

The altcoins sections of bitcointalk are less and less useful all the time, more and more just full of useless garbage.

So Coinzen has a value, I think.

(Though I see entire sections there I doubt I will ever look at. Maybe those are full of garbage too, I don't know. Why do we even have sections there for coins that are totally unrelated to DeVCoin? I mean I can see where all the coins that can be merged mined with DeVCoin are relevant so we can upkeep all those coins to mine them all at once, but I have to wonder why some of the coins that have sections there are there. Though I can't recall what they are even, I just vaguely recall once upon a time noticing seemingly random accretions of coins that didn't seem to have any particular relevance to DeVCoin.)

-MarkM-


There has been a start to clean out coinzen.com to only things relavent to DVC yet it is a slow process. For starters it is not even my area of administration. When 1031 was last approached by me to install a module to help with spam his reply was to "RTFM". If not for my efforts the place would be swamped with nothing but spam.

Here is the link discussing the forum revamp:

http://coinzen.org/index.php/topic,2430.msg39276.html#msg39276

It has been weeks now since awaiting a confirmation and copy of a backup of the forum from 1031 before actually removing things. It is my feeling that the other idea of having a DVC Holder account type would go a long way to help with spammers. Then we can simply remove accounts not of that type after a week period or some such length of time. The module to do that was added by me a while back; yet am reluctant to do any major changes until ensured the forum is backed up and at least a second copy is available off site the forum's server.

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July 27, 2015, 04:23:36 PM
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This is the announcements section, for gosh sakes! It takes about how many seconds/minutes for threads to scroll off the page?

Alternatively, we could start a thread in Project Development.  As this thread isn't really an announcement thread anyway, it would be a better fit.

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Cpsilent has been appointed the new share admin, which had remained open since the cleanup.
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Tenthirtyone has given his notice on running the coinzen forum, so will be removed from the administrator role and pay. Ashleysly is going to take his place from round 50.

Shattinator and Nova are working on moving the coinzen hosting to another site. I will post updates when that happens.

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Am just bumping this thread, to keep it alive!

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