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May 26, 2015, 02:05:01 AM
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It looks like I didn't receive any earnings (file custodian, marketing) for Round 46 either.

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May 26, 2015, 06:15:04 AM
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Your reinstatement request has been made wiser and Melodiemuse.

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It looks like I didn't receive any earnings (file custodian, marketing) for Round 46 either.

Is there any database to see this easily again, so we can see what the amounts are for? I'd like to see if mine are credited properly but the old site is down now.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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May 27, 2015, 12:27:58 PM
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Your reinstatement request has been made wiser and Melodiemuse.

- Nova

It looks like I didn't receive any earnings (file custodian, marketing) for Round 46 either.

Is there any database to see this easily again, so we can see what the amounts are for? I'd like to see if mine are credited properly but the old site is down now.
https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/account_47.csv

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May 27, 2015, 06:17:29 PM
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Your reinstatement request has been made wiser and Melodiemuse.

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It looks like I didn't receive any earnings (file custodian, marketing) for Round 46 either.

Is there any database to see this easily again, so we can see what the amounts are for? I'd like to see if mine are credited properly but the old site is down now.
https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/account_47.csv

Wow... I wish I'd have checked this sooner. I'm missing a LOT of things for round 45, 46 and 47 (didn't go back further than this). 46 and 47 I'm not even on the list. In 45, it missed my file custodian and something else. Who are we supposed to bring this up to?


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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May 28, 2015, 11:57:53 AM
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It looks like I didn't receive any earnings (file custodian, marketing) for Round 46 either.

lots of marketing here, you surely deserve lots of earnings for those efforts.
what a bunch of crap. is there a working brain here actually doing something for this coin?
cause it looks dead to me, only a few people grabbing what's left on the plate.
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May 28, 2015, 11:58:03 AM
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More then 100k $ of revenues from mining went into development, only in the last year, and what did you accomplish?
154k $ market cap, you are a bunch of thieves!


     
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June 02, 2015, 03:43:26 PM
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OK who's in charge in here? let's talk about what to do of this coin before it really dies.
First of all, why don't we introduce the halving just as btc. Should be about time now.

anche check your coinzen forum, someone is spamming it like a garbage bin.
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June 02, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
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OK who's in charge in here? let's talk about what to do of this coin before it really dies.
First of all, why don't we introduce the halving just as btc. Should be about time now.

anche check your coinzen forum, someone is spamming it like a garbage bin.

No idea who's in charge anymore. Some of us admins have somehow been missing months of payments, despite following through with our jobs during the entire period. There are a lot of fixes that need to be dealt with before things like halving are even talked about, and there are apparently people getting a LOT more coins than they should be.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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June 03, 2015, 04:38:58 AM
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OK who's in charge in here? let's talk about what to do of this coin before it really dies.
First of all, why don't we introduce the halving just as btc. Should be about time now.

anche check your coinzen forum, someone is spamming it like a garbage bin.

No idea who's in charge anymore. Some of us admins have somehow been missing months of payments, despite following through with our jobs during the entire period. There are a lot of fixes that need to be dealt with before things like halving are even talked about, and there are apparently people getting a LOT more coins than they should be.

Isn't Unthinkingbit still in charge?

I haven't been tracking my payments too well to notice if I've been missing any, other than the last round, because my earnings were zero and that's hard to miss. It looks like they got put back into round 47, though.

The part that bugs me, though, is that when I got taken off earnings for my jobs (because I failed to reply to the forum post a month ago), I never got a PM about it. I did get other admin related PMs, though, like please upload the latest receiver file. So I kept doing my duties not realizing that because I didn't reply to a forum post I was about to be able to keep the job but not the pay LOL. In the future, when there's an important change or decision affecting an admin, it's a good courtesy to message us specifically so we are alerted. If you want to add regular forum participation as part of the job description, then that's fine, but since that's not a requirement currently (and was not when we signed on) we should all get PM'd about this change and given a chance to decide to make sure we check in as often as needed to meet the new criteria or quit. I also believe that regardless of what goes on in the other forums, the major information and updates should continue to be posted to this BCT thread. That's how it works with other coins. There are only so many forums one can actively participate in and still remain sane Smiley It's basically BCT and one or two others. So major information and updates need to be posted here.

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June 03, 2015, 05:43:47 AM
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OK who's in charge in here? let's talk about what to do of this coin before it really dies.
First of all, why don't we introduce the halving just as btc. Should be about time now.

anche check your coinzen forum, someone is spamming it like a garbage bin.

No idea who's in charge anymore. Some of us admins have somehow been missing months of payments, despite following through with our jobs during the entire period. There are a lot of fixes that need to be dealt with before things like halving are even talked about, and there are apparently people getting a LOT more coins than they should be.

Isn't Unthinkingbit still in charge?

I haven't been tracking my payments too well to notice if I've been missing any, other than the last round, because my earnings were zero and that's hard to miss. It looks like they got put back into round 47, though.

The part that bugs me, though, is that when I got taken off earnings for my jobs (because I failed to reply to the forum post a month ago), I never got a PM about it. I did get other admin related PMs, though, like please upload the latest receiver file. So I kept doing my duties not realizing that because I didn't reply to a forum post I was about to be able to keep the job but not the pay LOL. In the future, when there's an important change or decision affecting an admin, it's a good courtesy to message us specifically so we are alerted. If you want to add regular forum participation as part of the job description, then that's fine, but since that's not a requirement currently (and was not when we signed on) we should all get PM'd about this change and given a chance to decide to make sure we check in as often as needed to meet the new criteria or quit. I also believe that regardless of what goes on in the other forums, the major information and updates should continue to be posted to this BCT thread. That's how it works with other coins. There are only so many forums one can actively participate in and still remain sane Smiley It's basically BCT and one or two others. So major information and updates need to be posted here.

I even responded about my jobs. I even updated the list on the wiki. Yet was still missing at least 2 months of full payments, and one month where I'm missing about 85% of them. I didn't go back past 3 months, but there's likely even more missing. Which means with some of us admins missing payments, all the others that were on the list are OVERPAID for the same period. Basically some of us got screwed big time. This is majorly off-putting to me.

FWIW, they are aware I'm still around. I respond to every inquiry from UTB about hosting the receiver files. I didn't realize I needed to keep checking the payment files to ensure I was still on the list, though. I figured as long as admins are aware I'm still active and am doing my jobs, I'd remain on it. Now I don't even know what to think.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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I even responded about my jobs. I even updated the list on the wiki. Yet was still missing at least 2 months of full payments, and one month where I'm missing about 85% of them. I didn't go back past 3 months, but there's likely even more missing. Which means with some of us admins missing payments, all the others that were on the list are OVERPAID for the same period. Basically some of us got screwed big time. This is majorly off-putting to me.

FWIW, they are aware I'm still around. I respond to every inquiry from UTB about hosting the receiver files. I didn't realize I needed to keep checking the payment files to ensure I was still on the list, though. I figured as long as admins are aware I'm still active and am doing my jobs, I'd remain on it. Now I don't even know what to think.

It sounds like you were making some reasonable assumptions. Based on your post I would say that I think some things with how the script is handled, including but not limited to the human factor, got out of whack. I'm guessing that with the DVC price being depressed for so long, doing all the work to keep things neat and clean on the coding end maybe wasn't quite as high a priority as it should have been. Maybe some short cuts were taken, some corners cut to save time. I'm not directly accusing anyone, just presenting a likely scenario. I don't get the impression that there was any malice or desire to cheat anyone involved. I do think any time saved over the past few months will be lost several times over in cleaning things up. I hope that cleanup does get done.

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I even responded about my jobs. I even updated the list on the wiki. Yet was still missing at least 2 months of full payments, and one month where I'm missing about 85% of them. I didn't go back past 3 months, but there's likely even more missing. Which means with some of us admins missing payments, all the others that were on the list are OVERPAID for the same period. Basically some of us got screwed big time. This is majorly off-putting to me.

FWIW, they are aware I'm still around. I respond to every inquiry from UTB about hosting the receiver files. I didn't realize I needed to keep checking the payment files to ensure I was still on the list, though. I figured as long as admins are aware I'm still active and am doing my jobs, I'd remain on it. Now I don't even know what to think.

It sounds like you were making some reasonable assumptions. Based on your post I would say that I think some things with how the script is handled, including but not limited to the human factor, got out of whack. I'm guessing that with the DVC price being depressed for so long, doing all the work to keep things neat and clean on the coding end maybe wasn't quite as high a priority as it should have been. Maybe some short cuts were taken, some corners cut to save time. I'm not directly accusing anyone, just presenting a likely scenario. I don't get the impression that there was any malice or desire to cheat anyone involved. I do think any time saved over the past few months will be lost several times over in cleaning things up. I hope that cleanup does get done.

I didn't say there was malice involved, but it doesn't change the situation. Here's the deal:

Every month right now, there are 8 BTC or so given out to those that are on the earnings files. If half of us aren't on it and half are, they're getting 2x as much payment while the rest get nothing. 8 BTC is quite a bit to just ignore right now, especially if DVC ever rises (in which case it's now significantly more than 8 BTC per month being misappropriated).


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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June 03, 2015, 09:37:04 AM
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so it's a total mess here. don't you believe it's time to tidy up the room and start all over again? you cannot just sit there and wait for your payment. looks like we are dealing with a state postal office: people doing nothing all day just waiting for their monthly check.
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Really? Do you have any proof of your statement? if there really went more than 100k $ into development there should be a bigger impact of progress for Devcoin than it is/was.  Undecided i am still a big DVC hodler.

More then 100k $ of revenues from mining went into development, only in the last year, and what did you accomplish?
154k $ market cap, you are a bunch of thieves!

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June 03, 2015, 11:06:23 AM
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Really? Do you have any proof of your statement? if there really went more than 100k $ into development there should be a bigger impact of progress for Devcoin than it is/was.  Undecided i am still a big DVC hodler.

More then 100k $ of revenues from mining went into development, only in the last year, and what did you accomplish?
154k $ market cap, you are a bunch of thieves!

Simple: in a year devcoin has 2.5B new coins mined, 2B of which goes to devs. In may last year devcoin was worth 20 satoshi and fell all along the way to 4 (I believe it's the same devs selling most of their monthly check). Let's assume 10 satoshi average price at a 350$ avg bitcoin price: 2B*350*0.00000010 = 70k usd. Not far from the 100k estimate by lechatnoir.

Now, assuming devcoin remains at these prices around 5 satoshi with btc at 250 for the next year, it's only 25k, less than 2500 a month. how many people split these revenues? what do they do with it? why don't they move their ass to push the price of this coin north of 20 satoshi with some real development that revives the community?
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so it's a total mess here. don't you believe it's time to tidy up the room and start all over again? you cannot just sit there and wait for your payment. looks like we are dealing with a state postal office: people doing nothing all day just waiting for their monthly check.

There are only like two people with access to change things. The rest of us CAN'T do anything but wait -- we can't change anything without file access. What you're saying is like saying "you can't wait for Bitcointalk to allow avatars again. You have to do it yourself instead of waiting for them to do it." You can't do something if you have no control over it.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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June 03, 2015, 02:34:31 PM
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I didn't say there was malice involved, but it doesn't change the situation. Here's the deal:

Every month right now, there are 8 BTC or so given out to those that are on the earnings files. If half of us aren't on it and half are, they're getting 2x as much payment while the rest get nothing. 8 BTC is quite a bit to just ignore right now, especially if DVC ever rises (in which case it's now significantly more than 8 BTC per month being misappropriated).

Oh, I get that, and it's disappointing. You're correct about this not being something to ignore. You're also correct about not really being able to access the files and clean things up.

What do you recommend as a next step?

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I didn't say there was malice involved, but it doesn't change the situation. Here's the deal:

Every month right now, there are 8 BTC or so given out to those that are on the earnings files. If half of us aren't on it and half are, they're getting 2x as much payment while the rest get nothing. 8 BTC is quite a bit to just ignore right now, especially if DVC ever rises (in which case it's now significantly more than 8 BTC per month being misappropriated).

Oh, I get that, and it's disappointing. You're correct about this not being something to ignore. You're also correct about not really being able to access the files and clean things up.

What do you recommend as a next step?

I have no idea. I reached out to UTB already about a week ago and still haven't heard back. Not sure what we can do without him, and his absence is causing a lot of issues. We're in limbo until either he does something or he allows someone else to do it.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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I have no idea. I reached out to UTB already about a week ago and still haven't heard back. Not sure what we can do without him, and his absence is causing a lot of issues. We're in limbo until either he does something or he allows someone else to do it.

I got a message from him May 27 asking me to upload round 47 receiver files to my website. What exactly do you mean by "his absence" and being unsure what we can do without him?

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I have no idea. I reached out to UTB already about a week ago and still haven't heard back. Not sure what we can do without him, and his absence is causing a lot of issues. We're in limbo until either he does something or he allows someone else to do it.

I got a message from him May 27 asking me to upload round 47 receiver files to my website. What exactly do you mean by "his absence" and being unsure what we can do without him?

June 3 - May 27 = 7 days = a week

Anyways, he's the only one with access to alter receivers, as far as I'm aware. Things like adding admins to it, bounties, etc. If we can't add people or take people off the list, we're effectively left with no power. If we can't control the project, and he isn't... I don't get what you're missing, lol.

It's like working at Walmart and having an issue with your paycheck:

"Can I speak to the manager?"
"Sorry... not sure where he is"
"Who can I get a hold of to fix my payment issue?"
"The manager"
"Where is he?"
"I told you, we have no idea. When he randomly pops in, you can ask him. Until then, you'll just have to work without pay or find another job. Oh, and any money you have earned and continue to earn will just be split among the people that are still on the payroll, so you're effectively working to earn them more money while you get nothing. Sorry dude!"


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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