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It's been 9 years to the day since Block 0. It's hardly a dead shitcoin. Maybe just undervalued abstract coin.
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July 23, 2020, 05:57:46 AM |
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It's been 9 years to the day since Block 0. It's hardly a dead shitcoin. Maybe just undervalued abstract coin. Agree. But if they list dead shitcoins they should definitely list devcoin.  Don't you want to buy some more cheap coins in a ltc/dvc market? (Someone who got all the info they need have to fill out the application.) @shtako, thanks for letting us know about Fides. Let me wear my Investor Administrator hat for a sec: 1. The listing request form is currently found here2. Listing Fee is 0.25 BTC3. BTC/BTC Fork – Must comply with Bitcoin Core API > 0.10 (Devcoin is 0.8 ) 4. Principle/Developer [...] must be available and reply to any queries from the exchange within 24 hoursI think that this is a good candidate but we need to do some homework before. Also, I think that exchanges supporting XLM tokens are better suited for Devcoin right now, because we don't need to do any software update and all technical issues are already handled by the people running the Stellar network. Last but not least, we are already listed on Freiexchange with the BTC/DVC pair. Freiexchange has zero fees for trading, they only charge very reasonable fees for withdrawals. Also, the DVC token is getting more and more trading volume in the Stellar DEX: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5, where we can trade for ETH, LTC, XRP, XLM, CENTUS, TFC, IXC and a wealth of Galactic Millieu tokens! We could add more exchanges, but the more I talk with exchanges, the more I tend to think that it is better strategy to first heat up our existing markets. Go go Devcoin! - develCuy |
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It's been 9 years to the day since Block 0. It's hardly a dead shitcoin. Maybe just undervalued abstract coin. Agree. But if they list dead shitcoins they should definitely list devcoin. Don't you want to buy some more cheap coins in a ltc/dvc market? (Someone who got all the info they need have to fill out the application.) @shtako, thanks for letting us know about Fides. Let me wear my Investor Administrator hat for a sec: 1. The listing request form is currently found here2. Listing Fee is 0.25 BTC3. BTC/BTC Fork – Must comply with Bitcoin Core API > 0.10 (Devcoin is 0.8 ) 4. Principle/Developer [...] must be available and reply to any queries from the exchange within 24 hoursI think that this is a good candidate but we need to do some homework before. Also, I think that exchanges supporting XLM tokens are better suited for Devcoin right now, because we don't need to do any software update and all technical issues are already handled by the people running the Stellar network. Last but not least, we are already listed on Freiexchange with the BTC/DVC pair. Freiexchange has zero fees for trading, they only charge very reasonable fees for withdrawals. Also, the DVC token is getting more and more trading volume in the Stellar DEX: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5, where we can trade for ETH, LTC, XRP, XLM, CENTUS, TFC, IXC and a wealth of Galactic Millieu tokens! We could add more exchanges, but the more I talk with exchanges, the more I tend to think that it is better strategy to first heat up our existing markets. Go go Devcoin! - develCuy The biggest problem with smaller exchanges in my opinion is that they have less eyes. People that would trade DVC may not want to have to sign up to a new exchange just to buy it. I know this is something I dealt with in the past (I signed up to a couple exchanges solely for the purpose of trading -- both buying and selling to help the market -- DVC). I also question whether or not an exchange that just matches it up with LTC would be a disservice since it creates a virtual wall there. Instead of "Wow, this is worth x BTC" it becomes "Eh, it's worth x LTC but I don't really want to trade into/out of LTC." Both are my personal opinions on the matter, just wanted to toss them out there. |
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I also question whether or not an exchange that just matches it up with LTC would be a disservice since it creates a virtual wall there. Instead of "Wow, this is worth x BTC" it becomes "Eh, it's worth x LTC but I don't really want to trade into/out of LTC."
To put things into perspective... LTC marketcap - $2,920,128,326 XLM marketcap - $2,056,064,586 DVC marketcap - $2,025,106 (using `1 BTC = ~$9,513`, `1 DVC = 1 Sat` price and 21,286,112,500 total devcoins in circulation) Trading only using DVC/BTC pair would leave us with huge spread even if the price goes x10. So there is a need for other market pairs, such as XLM/DVC. Fortunately, it's already available on the Stellar network, but perhaps somebody would like to see such pairs on the other exchanges. Introducing more than one such pair on "fly-by-night" exchanges might be a "disservice" as you say, but only if there is a low volume, so that manually going through various calculations might disincentivize a potential buyer, because nobody can instantly calculate in their head whether for example LTC/DVC matches XLM/DVC denominated in USD. Having high volume on all the relevant pairs would increase trust in market prices being "fair", so no need to manually check every time if the prices match, or whether one pair offers bargains or whatever. With that regard, Stellar seems to be more convenient because of pathfinding, so volume doesn't matter. Since Stellar network uses XLM as native currency, it might be better for a fly-by-night exchange to provide XLM/DVC pairing, than the LTC/DVC pair, because XLM can be used for exchanging on Stellar, and not only "trading into/out of it" for the sake of getting DVC. |
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July 23, 2020, 05:42:59 PM |
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It's been 9 years to the day since Block 0. It's hardly a dead shitcoin. Maybe just undervalued abstract coin. Agree. But if they list dead shitcoins they should definitely list devcoin. Don't you want to buy some more cheap coins in a ltc/dvc market? (Someone who got all the info they need have to fill out the application.) @shtako, thanks for letting us know about Fides. Let me wear my Investor Administrator hat for a sec: 1. The listing request form is currently found here2. Listing Fee is 0.25 BTC3. BTC/BTC Fork – Must comply with Bitcoin Core API > 0.10 (Devcoin is 0.8 ) 4. Principle/Developer [...] must be available and reply to any queries from the exchange within 24 hoursI think that this is a good candidate but we need to do some homework before. Also, I think that exchanges supporting XLM tokens are better suited for Devcoin right now, because we don't need to do any software update and all technical issues are already handled by the people running the Stellar network. Last but not least, we are already listed on Freiexchange with the BTC/DVC pair. Freiexchange has zero fees for trading, they only charge very reasonable fees for withdrawals. Also, the DVC token is getting more and more trading volume in the Stellar DEX: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5, where we can trade for ETH, LTC, XRP, XLM, CENTUS, TFC, IXC and a wealth of Galactic Millieu tokens! We could add more exchanges, but the more I talk with exchanges, the more I tend to think that it is better strategy to first heat up our existing markets. Go go Devcoin! - develCuy We can’t afford those listing fees. Gotta try freiexchange or some free exchanges which are probably high risk. |
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July 23, 2020, 08:17:54 PM |
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We [ I ] can’t afford those listing fees.
Wrong thread. IXC is the other way. |
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July 24, 2020, 02:46:26 AM |
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Maybe DVC will reflect an accurate price once Block 0 reward can be redeemed. They're "satoshi's" coins after all.
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But you will agree - is it just brilliant?  |
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Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019. Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free. INFO FROM ALTILLY: Information: Project name: Devcoin Ticker: DVC Blockchain/algorithm: Own blockchain / SHA-256 Coin/token: Coin Circulating supply: 18,073,257,500 DVC Premine: N/A Explorer/contract: https://node1.devcoin.cloud/Token/ asset information: https://www.altilly.com/asset/DVCComment: None of the marketplaces listed in Bitcointalk thread accept DVC, they do not exist anymore or DVC value is shown as 0$ - All markets listed currently inactive. (From 2013. /2014.) No marketplaces that accept DVC listed on the website. Website: http://devcoin.org/index.htmlGithub (or similar): https://github.com/devcoin/coreBitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740903.0Comment: Github repositories inactive 8 months/10 months/5 years. Bitcointalk thread seems like only active social channel, but couldn’t find recent talk about development, only discussions related to crypto taxes and exchanges. Evaluation: Social: - FAILED • Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/ – 299 members. • Twitter: https://twitter.com/Devtome – 1895 followers. • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/ – 60 followers. Comment: Reddit– Inactive for a minimum of 8 months, most likely 2-3 years. Twitter –Inactive since 25th April 2016. Facebook – Inactive since 18th March 2014. Whitepaper: - FAILED • Whitepaper available: No Team: - FAILED • Team information available: No Trade volume was undecided at the time of review. It was the rest of the evaluation that caused it to be delisted. So who controls the social media sites for devcoin? Facebook? twitter? reddit? Was there not a whitepaper for devcoin? Fuzzybear |
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July 25, 2020, 07:17:23 PM |
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Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019.
Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free.
INFO FROM ALTILLY:
That is great @FuzzyBear! I managed to contact Altilly as well, via support ticket, then via Telegram. After a month we have finally got Charles Naughton to visit our Telegram channel: https://t.me/Devcoins, this is the conversation: Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09] My name is Charles Naughton from Altilly Exchange Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09] I have been asked to give you guys another look after DVC was delisted a year ago develCuy, [25.07.20 12:10] [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.8420Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:11] We consider BCT more of an announcement portal but ill check it out. I have no way to gauge how big your community is on BCT develCuy, [25.07.20 12:16] Just seen you shared feedback with FuzzyBear. If you visit the website: devcoin.org, you can find up to date info regarding our community channels, wallets, block explorers and exchanges The last couple months I updated devcoin.org, so it is now in sync with current information. Also, devtome got a new look and feel. Additionally, I'm always in contact with Coingecko to keep our profile updated: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/devcoinAs you can see, not just my spare efforts, but joint interest and work from the community is finally paying off. Just keep moving on guys! Go go Devcoin! - develCuy |
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July 25, 2020, 07:36:18 PM |
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Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019.
Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free.
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That is great @FuzzyBear! I managed to contact Altilly as well, via support ticket, then via Telegram. After a month we have finally got Charles Naughton to visit our Telegram channel: https://t.me/Devcoins, this is the conversation: Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09] My name is Charles Naughton from Altilly Exchange Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:09] I have been asked to give you guys another look after DVC was delisted a year ago develCuy, [25.07.20 12:10] [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.8420Chuck Naughton, [25.07.20 12:11] We consider BCT more of an announcement portal but ill check it out. I have no way to gauge how big your community is on BCT develCuy, [25.07.20 12:16] Just seen you shared feedback with FuzzyBear. If you visit the website: devcoin.org, you can find up to date info regarding our community channels, wallets, block explorers and exchanges The last couple months I updated devcoin.org, so it is now in sync with current information. Also, devtome got a new look and feel. Additionally, I'm always in contact with Coingecko to keep our profile updated: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/devcoinAs you can see, not just my spare efforts, but joint interest and work from the community is finally paying off. Just keep moving on guys! Go go Devcoin! - develCuy Yup so more feedback from them... basically they worry the size of the community based on members in the social media groups (telegram chat, discord, twitter followers etc) are too low and there is no community here to warrent listing dvc. This is mostly because dvc has had devtome and here to keep track of updates etc and there has not been a big social media push to get members to join etc. If the numbers in the social media groups is correctly reflected from the community here then there is a chance they will consider relisting dvc on altilly. So community members please sign up, follow, join all the following dvc official channels: Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/Telegram: https://t.me/DevcoinsTwitter: https://twitter.com/TheDevcoinDiscord: https://discord.io/devcoinFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/Can we get a breakdown of who controls these also in case any updates are needed or who can make posts and are they still active here? otherwise we might have to open up another official channel or account for something. Is there a whitepaper anywhere for dvc? @markm did u have anything? We could also do with a page on the devcoin.org site of the "Team" and their roles etc. any chance we can update the first post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.0 as all these links are outdated and no longer active. Fuzzybear |
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July 25, 2020, 09:15:16 PM |
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Is there a whitepaper anywhere for dvc?
Well I think even Litecoin referenced Bitcoin's whitepaper? https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdfSo, just some explanations on how Devcoin differs from Bitcoin should be enough: https://github.com/devcoin/corehttps://www.devtome.com/devcoinWe could also do with a page on the devcoin.org site of the "Team" and their roles etc.
Yeah just update the relevant info if it's not updated already. If above two links don't explain all the differences between those coins, then a standalone devtome page which lists all the differences should be created? |
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The info given from Antilly is very detailed, and far more than I expected to see from them. It does two things for me personally:
1) Makes it a lot easier to gauge what they are looking for and what DVC needs to help come back on the map/dominate
2) Builds trust in them since they are clearly doing their research
Now, one part that I found a little backwards is the shop info. One of their negatives is that there aren't many/any stores accepting DVC right now, but part of that reason could just as easily be that it's not as liquid right now and shops of most types have their own expenses (i.e., if I'm selling phones at a 5% markup, I still need to get that 95% from somewhere to pay for the phone and restock. If I can't sell any of the coins on an exchange, I can't viably run a business).
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The info given from Antilly is very detailed, and far more than I expected to see from them. It does two things for me personally:
1) Makes it a lot easier to gauge what they are looking for and what DVC needs to help come back on the map/dominate
2) Builds trust in them since they are clearly doing their research
Now, one part that I found a little backwards is the shop info. One of their negatives is that there aren't many/any stores accepting DVC right now, but part of that reason could just as easily be that it's not as liquid right now and shops of most types have their own expenses (i.e., if I'm selling phones at a 5% markup, I still need to get that 95% from somewhere to pay for the phone and restock. If I can't sell any of the coins on an exchange, I can't viably run a business).
Yes Ranlo that was my take from the feedback from altilly, great to see what dvc needs to do and good sign altilly is good exchange and doing due research into each coin. Regarding the stores accepting DVC, I think this is specifically related to the first post on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.0 with the places listed accepting dvc as payment.. they are all out of date and dead thus that looks bad so this should be cleaned up if possible or lets start new official thread? Also there has been no work to get dvc integrated into a multi crypto payment gateway provider. Don't forget they are reviewing all cryptocurrencies like this and payment gateways are a huge step in opening up the coin to non crypto businesses etc. For example https://b2binpay.com/en/cryptocurrencies/coins/Agreed though one reason could be there are no stores accepting dvc because there is no exchange to buy and sell dvc. But they are taking a risk with each coin listing that it could be a scam or worse and damage the exchange itself. I have seen it in the past where a coins foundation offer an online shop with token items (coffee mugs, hats, stickers etc all with the crypto logo on it and purchase can be done in btc and the crypto thus offering a place to spend. Is there anything stopping dvc setting up and offering such a shop? It was done in the past as an incentive to mine the coins and give you something physical for the electricity bill and speculation for the miner but has more value now as a sign of the community and support behind the coin in the eyes of exchanges and the public. A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready. (Note this was done in the PPC community and they spent far too long and much money redesigning the logo and rebranding and would not recommend) just take the current dvc logo and drop on a sticker and get 100 printed up in various sizes etc. This also opens the question of does anyone have the dvc official logo in a high res image and various formats (white background, transparent background, one with text devcoin, one with just logo) and these should be in one place available on devtome or devcoin.org for marketing use and such. Would anyone here want to buy something with their dvc? if so what? Fuzzybear |
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August 01, 2020, 12:22:09 PM |
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A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready.
I got this shirt printed year ago. I don't like graphic tees so I kept it simple.   Somebody also printed a white version. |
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August 01, 2020, 03:30:25 PM |
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Agreed though one reason could be there are no stores accepting dvc because there is no exchange to buy and sell dvc. But they are taking a risk with each coin listing that it could be a scam or worse and damage the exchange itself. I have seen it in the past where a coins foundation offer an online shop with token items (coffee mugs, hats, stickers etc all with the crypto logo on it and purchase can be done in btc and the crypto thus offering a place to spend. Is there anything stopping dvc setting up and offering such a shop? It was done in the past as an incentive to mine the coins and give you something physical for the electricity bill and speculation for the miner but has more value now as a sign of the community and support behind the coin in the eyes of exchanges and the public.
@FuzzyBear, I though I've been clear but here we go again: 1. "there is no exchange to buy and sell dvc" FALSE. We have Freiexchange to BUY, and Stellar DEX to BUY and SELL. See: https://www.devcoin.org/get-devcoin.html (Click "Buy Devcoins"). There are DVC pairs against BTC, ETH, LTC, XRP, USD and plenty of Galactic Milieu tokens 2. "Is there anything stopping dvc setting up and offering such a shop?" NO. DVC tokens on stellar platform are e-commerce enabled. See shopify stellar integration: https://stellarpay.io/documentation/shopify/shopify-xlm-integration/3. Devcoin is not just a Bitcoin fork any longer. Everybody, please, get up to date on what you can do with Stellar and DVC tokens Last but not least, DVC tokens are getting more and more trading volume on our current exchanges: Stellar DEX and Freeiexchange. Market makers are welcome to join the party. Later you can't tell me I didn't let you know early! Go go Devcoin! - develCuy |
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August 06, 2020, 03:14:38 AM |
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A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready.
I got this shirt printed year ago. I don't like graphic tees so I kept it simple. Somebody also printed a white version. You ship to the USA? |
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A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready.
I got this shirt printed year ago. I don't like graphic tees so I kept it simple. Somebody also printed a white version. You ship to the USA? Yes, from East bloc with love. |
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