[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated

[hornetsnest]

When do we moon? ..."asking for a friend"

[realdantreccia]

When do we moon? ..."asking for a friend"

I ain't your guy, pal.

[hornetsnest]

When do we moon? ..."asking for a friend"

I ain't your guy, pal.

Duly noted

[neuro14]

According to the latest rates file 1 DVC = 24 Litoshi, or 4x the current market price on Altilly - correct?

Also, has anyone successfully withdrew DVC from Altilly and received it in their Devcoin wallet?

[Vlad2Vlad]

According to the latest rates file 1 DVC = 24 Litoshi, or 4x the current market price on Altilly - correct?

Also, has anyone successfully withdrew DVC from Altilly and received it in their Devcoin wallet?

Sounds right, not sure why altilly price is so low.  I have withdrawn from Altilly with no issues. 

[realdantreccia]

According to the latest rates file 1 DVC = 24 Litoshi, or 4x the current market price on Altilly - correct?

Also, has anyone successfully withdrew DVC from Altilly and received it in their Devcoin wallet?

Sounds right, not sure why altilly price is so low.  I have withdrawn from Altilly with no issues. 

I have used altilly and withdrawn without issue.

[novacadian]

If its worth nothing and you can buy nothing with it then it has zero potential

In today's blockchain technology, where a chain can carry anything from the data for a social media network to a country's land titles, any chain that has a secure network has potential worth. Thinking currency centric can hide some of a token's potential value from you, in my opinion.

- Nova

#DevSTEEM On!

It lives!!! #DevSTEEM on =P

Hopefully my posting key request will be excepted for the @devcoin account on the #STEEM blockchain, so as to continue that momentum.

- Nova

[rahmat86]

Where is market to trade devcoin? I'm not found devcoin at coinmarketcap? I think maybe buy some devcoin and hold next year is good

[Vlad2Vlad]

Where is market to trade devcoin? I'm not found devcoin at coinmarketcap? I think maybe buy some devcoin and hold next year is good

Altilly and Freiexchange.  Altilly has the best prices and supply right now (LTC market).

[markm]

According to the latest rates file 1 DVC = 24 Litoshi, or 4x the current market price on Altilly - correct?

LiTeCoin has been going up fast lately, so that rates file is probably quite out of date by now regarding LiTeCoin.

It is generated along with all those other tables ( http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html ), lately only about once or twice each month. You can see from the dates on the other tables that the last time it was run was June 1st 2019, so those "Latest rates" are as of then.

The rates tend to work best for assets whose value can be computed by dividing the asset's treasury by the number of coins/shares/whatever, since those things tend usually to move more slowly. Although those things also often have oodles of additional "stuff" behind them beyond just what is in their "treasury" so maybe they are somewhat under-estimated by only adding up their warchest/treasury. (For example the United Kingdom Britcoin and the Canadian Digital Note do not try to account for the guildhouses, equipment etc the Brits and Canucks own on the CoffeeMUD platform and the Crossfire RPG platform, nor for the civilisations they control on FreeCiv worlds, and not even the stashes of their own coin they each have separated out from their treasury/warchest account yet could if they chose use to purchase other assets to put into their treasury/warchest account.)

DeVCoin is hopefully on its way to being able to be valued in that way, but as of June 1st the computed value (based on those "Latest rates") of the "DVC" entity that is hoped to eventually be able to serve as the "treasury" or "warchest" we can use to compute the value of DeVCoins was only 10,265,100,372.63372243 DeVCoins, which is still only about half the actual number of DeVCoins that have been minted so far. So basically that warchest or treasury currently only contains enough assets to be able to buy back about half the DeVCoins in existence at the value per DeVCoin the Latest Rates file shows, meaning if the rate for DeVCoin was computed from that warchest or treasury the rate shown would be somewhere around half what is actually currently being shown.

In other words right now the Latest Rates for DeVCoin are, like those for LiTeCoin and several other coins that live on blockchains, based on attempted "price discovery" rather than upon some warchest or treasury which could be used to "buy back" all the coins thus far minted.

-MarkM-

[Traxo]

According to the latest rates file 1 DVC = 24 Litoshi, or 4x the current market price on Altilly - correct?

LiTeCoin has been going up fast lately, so that rates file is probably quite out of date by now regarding LiTeCoin.

It is generated along with all those other tables ( http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html ), lately only about once or twice each month. You can see from the dates on the other tables that the last time it was run was June 1st 2019, so those "Latest rates" are as of then.

So you update these tables based on what data? Only network market offers (that could be misleading, no? Is volume even transparent? Who knows.), or "centralized exchanges" are included? 
Is any info on that (i.e. the generation of files) already posted somewhere?


Could we say that you are the Stellar Mark(et) M(aker)? 

[markm]

There are plenty of market-makers and markets on Stellar, but for a certain bunch of coins most of which are not on any of the normal exchanges I have issued tokens on HORIZON and Stellar networks so that players of the Galactic Milieu can make use of them.

Mostly this is the galactic big seven, a bunch of coins merged-mined alongside bitcoin since time immemorial, and a bunch of "Sci-Fi themed coins".

For coins that have a nation, corp, or whatever behind them in the game I calculate the value as the value of that nation or corp or whatever's treasury divided by the number of coins minted. For coins that have not yet been adopted by a civilisation or nation or Corp or whatever but are on an exchange somewhere I do unfortunately have to resort to looking at the current prices on that exchange or on CoinMarketCap. That includes bitcoin even though in the game bitcoin is supposedly the currency of the civilisation known as "Hackers" whose technology level is so high it might almost be indistinguishable from magick. (Most civilisations consider the Hackers, like "the planet known as Earth", mythical/fictitious.)

Eventually I hoped some kind of nation and corp auditing data could be put out periodically by some kind of publishing corp that would sell reports to interested nations and corps, and maybe also post them in libraries in various cities in the game and things like that. So far mostly everything is still in development. Maybe someone who has a ninja or thief character (someone in other words who might plausibly pass for a professional spy or somesuch) on the Galactic Diplomacy World (the CrossCiv Crossfire RPG server) will take up the task of obtaining all the nitty bitty details about the treasuries and transactions of the various civilisations corps etc and make such information available to other characters who visit that diplomacy world. If we make too much data available outeside the rabbit-holes, to people who might not even actually have a character in the game anywhere, that kind of subtracts from the lists of reasons why one might bother to actually play the darn game.

Someone on the I0Coin thread wants to buy some I0Coin so I have finally gotten back to setting up trade offers on the Stellar network, I will try to get I0C/XLM and IXC/XLM done then maybe start making trade offers using DVC instead of XLM as the counter-asset so maybe more folks looking to be able to actually spend their DeVCoins might decide to get involved on the Stellar platform.

-MarkM-

[neuro14]

I'm not sure who is in charge of delegating roles/responsibilities of the project, but I'd be happy to contribute to devcoin if I could be of any help. Unfortunately I don't have any development background, but have professional experience in finance/accounting and know the crypto-sphere pretty well.

Let me know - thanks.

[markm]

I'm not sure who is in charge of delegating roles/responsibilities of the project, but I'd be happy to contribute to devcoin if I could be of any help. Unfortunately I don't have any development background, but have professional experience in finance/accounting and know the crypto-sphere pretty well.

Let me know - thanks.

There are shares of DeVCoin available for twelve people to help me with what Unthinkingbit refers to as my "exchange project", which is basically the implementation of trading on the HORIZON and Stellar networks.

Particularly useful would be people who would provide bail-in and bail-out services to users, that is, accepting coins on their native blockchain from a user and issuing them tokens for them on the HORIZON or Stellar network in return (bailing in) and accepting such tokens from users, sending them actual coins on the blockchain in return (balling out).

(Basically you would buy tokens using real on-blockchain coins and sell tokens for real on-blockchain coins.)

Also useful would be market-making, that is, keeping the order-books full of buy and sell offers.

I have been working on the Stellar platform today, since Stellar lets you trade any asset against any asset so I have been able to create GRP/DVC, I0C/DVC, IXC/DVC, CLC/DVC, XGG, FBX/DVC and TBX/DEV pairs so far. That means folks can now buy I0C, IXC, FBX and TBX using DVC on the Stellar platform.

On the HORIZON platform all pairs must invlve the HZ coin, the native coin of the platform, so there I cannot provide direct pairs of DVC versus things other thqan HZ itself.

Lists of assets are online at http://makemoney.knotwork.com/ although I am not convinced those pages areup to date, I expect that some of the assets I have put in place Ihave not yet gotten around to posting one of those pages for. So the lists at that site might not be complete.

I did check as I worked today though to make sure that under Stellar there are pages for IXC, I0C, CLC, XGG, FBX and TBX.

When DVC was first created, we had been using GRP to prototype with; GRP produces only 50 coins per block whereas DVC produces 50,000 per block, so players (of the Galactic Milieu naturally expected that GRP coins would each be worth 1000 DVC coins, being as how both were merged-mined alongside bitcoin so 50 coins of GRP ought to come into existence for every 50,000 coins of DVC. Yet for whatever reason, that never did quite seem to pan out. Hmm.

I will be working on a bunch of the so-called "Sci-Fi themed coins" also shortly such as SPICE (Melange), GPL (Gold Pressed Latinum, also known now as GPL Classic since the advent of GPL2) and so on (including the new GPL2).

In effect we are implementing, on the Stellar network, an exchange in which DeVCoin can be the coin you buy other coins with.

-MarkM-

[neuro14]

I'm not sure who is in charge of delegating roles/responsibilities of the project, but I'd be happy to contribute to devcoin if I could be of any help. Unfortunately I don't have any development background, but have professional experience in finance/accounting and know the crypto-sphere pretty well.

Let me know - thanks.

There are shares of DeVCoin available for twelve people to help me with what Unthinkingbit refers to as my "exchange project", which is basically the implementation of trading on the HORIZON and Stellar networks.

Particularly useful would be people who would provide bail-in and bail-out services to users, that is, accepting coins on their native blockchain from a user and issuing them tokens for them on the HORIZON or Stellar network in return (bailing in) and accepting such tokens from users, sending them actual coins on the blockchain in return (balling out).

(Basically you would buy tokens using real on-blockchain coins and sell tokens for real on-blockchain coins.)

Also useful would be market-making, that is, keeping the order-books full of buy and sell offers.

I have been working on the Stellar platform today, since Stellar lets you trade any asset against any asset so I have been able to create GRP/DVC, I0C/DVC, IXC/DVC, CLC/DVC, XGG, FBX/DVC and TBX/DEV pairs so far. That means folks can now buy I0C, IXC, FBX and TBX using DVC on the Stellar platform.

On the HORIZON platform all pairs must invlve the HZ coin, the native coin of the platform, so there I cannot provide direct pairs of DVC versus things other thqan HZ itself.

Lists of assets are online at http://makemoney.knotwork.com/ although I am not convinced those pages areup to date, I expect that some of the assets I have put in place Ihave not yet gotten around to posting one of those pages for. So the lists at that site might not be complete.

I did check as I worked today though to make sure that under Stellar there are pages for IXC, I0C, CLC, XGG, FBX and TBX.

When DVC was first created, we had been using GRP to prototype with; GRP produces only 50 coins per block whereas DVC produces 50,000 per block, so players (of the Galactic Milieu naturally expected that GRP coins would each be worth 1000 DVC coins, being as how both were merged-mined alongside bitcoin so 50 coins of GRP ought to come into existence for every 50,000 coins of DVC. Yet for whatever reason, that never did quite seem to pan out. Hmm.

I will be working on a bunch of the so-called "Sci-Fi themed coins" also shortly such as SPICE (Melange), GPL (Gold Pressed Latinum, also known now as GPL Classic since the advent of GPL2) and so on (including the new GPL2).

In effect we are implementing, on the Stellar network, an exchange in which DeVCoin can be the coin you buy other coins with.

-MarkM-

I couldn't find the DVC trading pairs on stellar, can you share the link?

[markm]

http://makemoney.knotwork.com/stellar/

It looks like I really DO need help with this, because I have discovered a bug in my wallet/client, after the first few hundred offers it no longer shows me my offers in any trading pair except the first hundred or few hundred or whatever the limit is offers on the first trading pair or few trading pairs.

So I cannot tell where I am up to, I cannot cancel offers (as cancel is on the list of offers), basically it is horribly crippled.

This is the stellarchat client, also known as Foxlet. I tried another client and it did not seem to have trading at all!

And obviously I am not going to try to do this on some third party web-based wallet as they could trivially-easily snoop my secret keys.

So it absolutely has to be a wallet I can run on my own desktop machine.

I have posted an issue but it looks like they maybe have not touched their github for 8 months or so.

So I am just struggling by with a broken client, only able to see the top 15 buy or sell offers of each pair and I am not even certain yet whether once someone else also posts offers there will be any way to tell which of the offers are mine.

Horrible! There was an old chinese exchange that had a somewhat similar problem once upon a time, the one where BBQcoin was traded (and, I think maybe even is still traded) and as far as I know they never fixed the problem so I am not really all that confident these wallet developers will ever fix theirs either since I came across the problem in version 3.3 went to their github and got the latest release, version 4.4 yet the problem is STILL there! Insane!

-MarkM-

[neuro14]

I just applied for DVC listing at Qtrade.

Definitely a longshot, but with "We list original dev coins." being their slogan - they might consider it.

Will provide updates if I hear anything back.

[Samkary]

Hello everyone. Just looking for some help. I installed the new version of Devcoin 1.0.16 (ok, not so new but the only current one). I had a "wallet.dat" from the older 2014 version. How do I use this "wallet.dat" with this new app? Is that even possible?

After opening the app, it finished synchronizing with the network but shows nothing in history, all blank. Just wanted to know if I can see some of my old transactions.

Thanks!

[egghead123]

Hello everyone. Just looking for some help. I installed the new version of Devcoin 1.0.16 (ok, not so new but the only current one). I had a "wallet.dat" from the older 2014 version. How do I use this "wallet.dat" with this new app? Is that even possible?

After opening the app, it finished synchronizing with the network but shows nothing in history, all blank. Just wanted to know if I can see some of my old transactions.

Thanks!

Try a wallet repair if the function exists with the client.

If you put a valid wallet.dat into the executables folder %appdata%>roaming>Devcoin there is no reason for it not to show your balance once it is on the correct and fully synced chain.Make sure your wallet.dat does not have any additional tags/names after the file name such as wallet.dat.devcoin or devcoin.wallet.dat

Name of wallet file can ONLY be wallet.dat

Not sure if devcoin allows importpriv key comand in the console but if you have your private key you could import it into your new wallet.To get private key for any address simply open the console and enter the dumpprivkey input.Just type:     dumpprivkey[your wallet address]      .

Another option is rescan/reindex or even zapwallettxes but ensure you back up your wallet.dat file before it because it will delete everything from your wallet, then rescan the blockchain from block 0 for every transaction that matches your wallet addresses.This is mainly used for tx's that haven't confirmed.

[TheCrimsonFucker]

Hi, where is the blockexplorer