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March 10, 2019, 08:40:45 PM
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Also maybe its shareholders might want to bolster their own holdings of things that can be expected to increase in value if DeVCoin increases in value...
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P.S. It occurs to me also that maybe DeVCorp should start selling some of its assets, especially those not greatly based upon DeVCoins, FOR DeVCoins, to try to increase its DeVCoin reserves.
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March 10, 2019, 08:45:39 PM
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Guys, did the bisq.network delist DVC? I downloaded the latest client today and I can't find it anywhere.  Huh

From https://docs.bisq.network/exchange/howto/list-asset.html
Inactive assets will be de-listed
At each new release we will check whether already-listed assets have been traded in the past 4 months. If this requirement is not met the asset will be removed. The Bisq trade statistics are used as a reference. Removal of an un-traded asset will not be announced outside of normal release notes.
Listing the asset again will require a statement about what has changed since the original de-listing, e.g.: links to discussions where demand for the asset is documented, etc.


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March 11, 2019, 12:17:54 AM
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Well it would probably help to have more activity on the HORIZON and Stellar platforms. Smiley

Despite there being a share of DeVCoin minting each for 12 people who help with that, folks here do not seem to have particularly gotten involved in that. No-one yet has claimed one of those shares.

There definitely should be demand for DeVCoins in the game, really the original idea of giving loans deniminated in DeVCoins was that that would create demand for DeVCoins with which to make loan-payments.

The problem for a long long time though has been folks getting DeVCoins for writing unrelated stuff that does not seem particularly designed to contribute to the over-all multiverse have been getting so many DeVCoins compared to developers of the software that is used to actually implement the multiverse, and dumping it so cheap on "the planet known as Earth" instead of pouring it into the game's economies, that DeVCoin became so low value, with so few DeVCoins actually available within the game, that it simply is not practical currently for characters and Corps to actually get hold of enough DeVCoins to make loan payments, so they pretty much always nowadays just look at the Latest Rates include-file and select some asset from that with which to pay based on the other asset's listed value in DeVCoins.

If we can get a lot more DeVCoins actually into play, and increase their value, it should increasingly become feasible for players to trade other things FOR DeVCoins then pay their debts WITH DeVCoins.

Despite there being a share of DeVCoin minting each for 12 people who help with that, folks here do not seem to have particularly gotten involved in that. No-one yet has claimed one of those shares.

It would probably he helpful also to be more active on the Galactic Diplomacy Planet where folks are supposed to be in touch with one-another about this kind of thing.

The Mercantile Association, whose association-house is next to West End Trade (across from the Traveller's Society) in the part of the planetary capitol known as West End has contacts that know about this kind of thing, though for most common folks their guildmasters or clan officers or whatever do most of the politicking, conversions between currencies and so on helping their members with all this kind of thing and with making useful contacts that they will need if they are themselves going to advance within the clan or guild or party or association or society or whatever or form one of their own.

(Unlike Crossfire RPG as distributed, in the Galactic Milieu we have cloned the clans functionality to create guilds, societies, parties etc that work just the same but you can be a member of one of each type, so that even if you are in a clan you can also join a guild and a society and so on.)

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March 11, 2019, 11:35:36 PM
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Guys, did the bisq.network delist DVC? I downloaded the latest client today and I can't find it anywhere.  Huh

From https://docs.bisq.network/exchange/howto/list-asset.html
Inactive assets will be de-listed
At each new release we will check whether already-listed assets have been traded in the past 4 months. If this requirement is not met the asset will be removed. The Bisq trade statistics are used as a reference. Removal of an un-traded asset will not be announced outside of normal release notes.
Listing the asset again will require a statement about what has changed since the original de-listing, e.g.: links to discussions where demand for the asset is documented, etc.


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Point is that the coin doesn't have much traffic for it's potential, writing is just one of the unique ways contributors can earn DevCoin but it will remain useless and stagnant without significant volume and user base.

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More people have heard of Daniel Treccia who exists on the planet known as "Earth" than Paul Roberto Vlad - who exists only on whatever ID he is printed on.

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March 15, 2019, 04:48:22 AM
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um, I checked my mac gui wallet that i downloaded here at the devcoin dot org web wallet link and it no longer opens and isnt compatible with mac os! what can i do to get access to it? I see the concept of the conversation of wanting to get more people to join devcoin, i would want to help with that but i think i lost my coins due to this gui mac os wallet no longer opens for me.

this isnt good for those new coming into the scene. any help is greatly appreciated.
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March 15, 2019, 03:46:32 PM
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um, I checked my mac gui wallet that i downloaded here at the devcoin dot org web wallet link and it no longer opens and isnt compatible with mac os! what can i do to get access to it? I see the concept of the conversation of wanting to get more people to join devcoin, i would want to help with that but i think i lost my coins due to this gui mac os wallet no longer opens for me.

this isnt good for those new coming into the scene. any help is greatly appreciated.

I have an old mac kicking round, i'll have a go at running the client and restoring a wallet on that this weekend and see if I have any issues.

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March 16, 2019, 05:22:39 AM
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um, I checked my mac gui wallet that i downloaded here at the devcoin dot org web wallet link and it no longer opens and isnt compatible with mac os! what can i do to get access to it? I see the concept of the conversation of wanting to get more people to join devcoin, i would want to help with that but i think i lost my coins due to this gui mac os wallet no longer opens for me.

this isnt good for those new coming into the scene. any help is greatly appreciated.

I have an old mac kicking round, i'll have a go at running the client and restoring a wallet on that this weekend and see if I have any issues.

Fuzzybear

that would be helpful as i was able to open my wallet in the gui but it wont let me see my amount in the wallet but i see it on the block explorer.
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March 16, 2019, 07:53:34 AM
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The Latest Rates include-file has been updated, along with the whole site of asset value tables.

Using those latest values, the proposed DVC Holdings treasury/warchest is now valued at 9880733930.99764890 DeVCoins.

That is an improvement for sure since last report, but still not enough to "back" all the DeVCoins that hae been minted at the current vlue per DeVCoin that was used to calculate that figure.

There does not seem to be a lot of action so far on the HORIZON and Stellar platforms, how many of you have those installed so far?

If you have DeVCoins you would like to sell in bulk but do not want to bother setting up either of those platforms, maybe just look at the Latest Rates file and make some offers?

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March 16, 2019, 04:40:50 PM
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The Latest Rates include-file[url=http://has been updated, along with the [url=http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html]whole site of asset value tables] has been updated, along with the [url=http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html]whole site of asset value tables.

Using those latest values, the proposed DVC Holdings treasury/warchest is now valued at 9880733930.99764890 DeVCoins.

That is an improvement for sure since last report, but still not enough to "back" all the DeVCoins that hae been minted at the current vlue per DeVCoin that was used to calculate that figure.

There does not seem to be a lot of action so far on the HORIZON and Stellar platforms, how many of you have those installed so far?

If you have DeVCoins you would like to sell in bulk but do not want to bother setting up either of those platforms, maybe just look at the Latest Rates file and make some offers?

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I will look into it. You propose we make offers on HORIZON or Stellar? Can you provide a link to these platforms? Smiley

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March 16, 2019, 06:26:20 PM
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Stellar is available all over the place, in fact right now BlockChain.com is still in the process of giving away $25 USD worth of Stellar Lumens per validated user, so it might be worth your while to get yourself validated there. If you can get their weird photo-ID thing to work, for me it just keeps taking a photo then claiming the internet hiccuped and taking the photo again, and again, and again, never failing to claim the internet hiccuped.

HORIZON the last released version can be downloaded from inside my http://LFM.knotwork.com/ site if you can't find it elsewhere.

I have not modified it so you will need to give it some current active nodes, I believe my site says how to do that.

A bunch of other coins some might regard as "obscure" are also available (in source code) there too, such as some of the original family of merged mined coins merged mined alongside bitcoin and devcoin. (IXCoin, I0Coin, GRouPcoin, CoiLedCoin etc).

The thing with HORIZON is that it is a NXT clone, so all trading pairs have to have its native token (HZ) as one side of the pair.

Stellar lets you offer any asset directly against any asset, no need to involve its own token (Stellar Lumens, XLM).

But, Stellar needs a so called "line of trust" for each asset you want to use, and each line of trust "ties up" ten Lumens as long as the line of trust exists.

Still, being able to trade arbitrary pairs directly, only needing to worry about their value relative to each other without reference to the platform's native currency, is kind of nice.

Also its fees might actually work out cheaper, depending on how much an HZ turns out to be worth.

That is the trouble with HORIZON, to use its trading pairs feature we need to somehow arrive at a value of the HZ itself, and right now HZ is yet another token you don't find on the public, website-type "exchanges" since Poloniex de-listed it.

It seems to have been used as if it were about a Canadian penny per HZ, but that is probably only because the vast majority of folks who actually have some still think it is "dead" since Poloniex de-listed it; if those folks come back chances are a lot of HZ will be wanting to get dumped for anything they think they might be able to "cash out" somewhere. Which might put a premium on things like IXC and I0C and maybe even DVC that can still be found on the typical website-type public "exchanges" folks are used to.

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March 19, 2019, 07:47:52 PM
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There does not seem to be a lot of action so far on the HORIZON and Stellar platforms, how many of you have those installed so far?


Had them installed from a while ago. Tried loading HORIZON and got "Blockchain download halted, no connection" notice on the web page at http://localhost:7776/index.html once the run-desktop.sh script was started.

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March 20, 2019, 04:53:06 AM
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There does not seem to be a lot of action so far on the HORIZON and Stellar platforms, how many of you have those installed so far?


Had them installed from a while ago. Tried loading HORIZON and got "Blockchain download halted, no connection" notice on the web page at http://localhost:7776/index.html once the run-desktop.sh script was started.

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Yeah their default and well known hosts lists in config file have all gone offline when the developers abandoned the project.

Put a well known hosts line or default hosts line in config with things like dvcstable01.dvcnode.org, dvcstable02.dvcnode.org, dvcstable06.dvcnode.org, crossciv.no-ip.org, ufbsh.no-ip.org, ufbtr.ddns.net and ufbar.ddns.net

Damn it is hard to log in here now they added the stupid reCAPTCHA thing that thing makes it sometimes take hours to get onto a site, sometimes completely impossible.

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March 27, 2019, 07:31:58 PM
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Hey everyone, do we need to backup our DVC wallet after each transaction or is it enough to only do it once?
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Hey everyone, do we need to backup our DVC wallet after each transaction or is it enough to only do it once?

I think once is OK. However, do as many backups as you can. You can't have enough backups of something.  I recently lost a lot of stuff from my old HDD because I didn't have a backup for it. Fortunately, I got my DVC wallet stored in several places. So, do it once, but store it in several safe places.

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March 28, 2019, 05:17:55 AM
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The wallet generates I think 100 addresses when it is created, then as it runs low it generates more; and there is a command to make it generate more too so if you expect to use a lot before your next backup you can deliberately generate a lot so your backup will contain the next however many addresses that will be used.

So you have some leeway.

When you send coins often an address will be used up to send the change to, and of course every time you do getnewaddress to get a new address to tell someone to send to that uses up one of the pre-created addresses.

So basically every time you do a backup it includes the next X-number of addresses that are to be used.

Once they have all been used, you will be into new territory, using addresses that had not been created at the time of your last backup.

So the key is to make backups faster than you use up addresses.

For example if you have a website that lets visitors cause an address to be created for them to send coins to, and thousands of visitors get addresses created daily, or one visitor uses a bot to have it generate tens or hundreds of thousands of addresses for them in one day, you might be hard-pressed to make backups often enough, and will want to generate vast numbers of addresses ahead of time to back up before the site gives them out.

If on the other hand you only have one publicised address for folks to send you coins (a donation address for example, or the address DevTome sends your shares to), and never send coins so never use up addresses to send change to, then one backup will last you "forever" with plenty of pre-generated addresses in it ready for some day when you do suddenly need another address or few.

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April 02, 2019, 10:11:39 PM
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The wallet generates I think 100 addresses when it is created, then as it runs low it generates more; and there is a command to make it generate more too so if you expect to use a lot before your next backup you can deliberately generate a lot so your backup will contain the next however many addresses that will be used.

So you have some leeway.

When you send coins often an address will be used up to send the change to, and of course every time you do getnewaddress to get a new address to tell someone to send to that uses up one of the pre-created addresses.

So basically every time you do a backup it includes the next X-number of addresses that are to be used.

Once they have all been used, you will be into new territory, using addresses that had not been created at the time of your last backup.

So the key is to make backups faster than you use up addresses.

For example if you have a website that lets visitors cause an address to be created for them to send coins to, and thousands of visitors get addresses created daily, or one visitor uses a bot to have it generate tens or hundreds of thousands of addresses for them in one day, you might be hard-pressed to make backups often enough, and will want to generate vast numbers of addresses ahead of time to back up before the site gives them out.

If on the other hand you only have one publicised address for folks to send you coins (a donation address for example, or the address DevTome sends your shares to), and never send coins so never use up addresses to send change to, then one backup will last you "forever" with plenty of pre-generated addresses in it ready for some day when you do suddenly need another address or few.

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Is that sort of a description of "coin mixing" and issuing lots?

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Hi, I sent coins off Freiexchange to qt wallet address before it finished syncing but laptop shutdown and now I got error on devcoin wallet "failed to connect to best block" and wallet will not open. Any fix?

Never mind. Fixed by moving wallet.dat from laptop to desktop wallet
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Hi, I sent coins off Freiexchange to qt wallet address before it finished syncing but laptop shutdown and now I got error on devcoin wallet "failed to connect to best block" and wallet will not open. Any fix?

Never mind. Fixed by moving wallet.dat from laptop to desktop wallet

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Hello all.I am trying to sync devcoin wallet but it hangs with 10 weeks to sync.When I shut it down and restarted it say message:error: cannot find best block? Please advise thanks.

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Warning, no coin lists were found for the file: receiver.csv

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