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November 26, 2017, 06:20:53 PM
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Cryptopia users have balance about 35M, Cryptopia have no CAP in wallet, therefore hacker take 35M to his home wallet.

means cryptopia has probs with math as well lol,
where are those millions on blockchain

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November 26, 2017, 07:15:33 PM
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Cryptopia users have balance about 35M, Cryptopia have no CAP in wallet, therefore hacker take 35M to his home wallet.

means cryptopia has probs with math as well lol,
where are those millions on blockchain
Here is all current hackers addresses, you can calculate balance yourself.
Code:
F23saSxaVWZsDG1GFFqCUuCa3wjbkwhSK1
Es3sFB73dRxrwMuh3Dp3S9u6mFJcD72UYL
ExqQPmh1PxJEWxNfjVXPCb7apZbBfPtosM
F5Nk7m1fsQJgguRH9vH6ZvBek9LZD9Tdfq
F1V2pK4dLP3dZRVcqv9mzSF7JiABokSJBk
Ez5CfYtKrgijbVaPkR6vkjTfdsToD1Ggdp
EtCpXDdmnHzCD1HfV36pHeaGinHVsD5Bkc
Ehn6MnpSSMhVUWeQm8vwr8E8eGeUYDKT2M
Eknwo3CaSPQ1E3ZJacJpoiyFFUZGmftErU
ExYra1LQaANAjQUxvbZTZ9vHqbHx1A1xj6
ExS3hSxy4kRvGCPEHzqdr9CR3hTGySmffh
Ewpd5bwZHZdVFX8RLwLSn88XxV3x5jeRkD
EmSvtWkAzAEkBJxH2tM6ELBthT38HjF7RQ
Es6gea7kE6ueSYmp279vUHVqQLK5k1EQqy
EmA6TtxwABXoPgq3RRiNAQeQGDMVoRPnUU
EuCiYbeBZu9ot6hF4ERAMHEvtCfVabBqsw
F1sUxLYW2Z7p3mw8Syw2RpDAJ5Ejyn93gW
EqfjXvV2vmUwKUNRT5qS5WRbQd492GPzDg
F38oAmx8DeJAjGvELMjQc4QJpZciPedF8h
EjHMEr1FNgMvCKsYqghaEDuJvrrVShTwMv
EuCw34p4nKqU4KuzKtaNryAo6diZu43TZS
EzuMUa7z2DmUQ9Vw7q21gaAbLk2GeA8XMu
EmPDGJW8CXvYEZkfJac2c3Tppq2mheYXcR
EzwiymFy36WRmt4zb7dihQN6znsF2XfWhd
EkQoTY7epoax7nx3egvLDJqyzVU1quv5fD
EneRSE9AAWmAjMsNCLcQTJbhxSFd6W7y7J
EjVcVuBZsjRaKcsuxXWGRsMchMRqXFY3jj
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November 27, 2017, 02:31:39 AM
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Here is all current hackers addresses, you can calculate balance yourself.
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coins sold could be withdrawn by some good ppl




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November 27, 2017, 03:23:56 AM
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Here is all current hackers addresses, you can calculate balance yourself.
.............


you can't be sure which is which (for example coins sold could be withdrawn by some good ppl),
but surely one can't withdraw more than deposit, in total, if none was bought of course.

And some good ppl withdraw coins from exchange in 5 min after attack  Smiley
Other was prepared to next attack, or mix many times.

Preparation to last attack f7b66ebe433f0be7d8332cd8f2d2dd579b480880543a0980d20932f539d738e8
Preparation to next attack 377dbe6b55b8840115a4351ce4ca8b842501f190017f5be75bbb480b1a3e7dc4
coins from addresses in last transaction later was mixed to new addr.
82901b8f3f38bbebc6f19acf63bda7920ba4bb582c2a1ce71a4b399cf03b805f withdrawn in 5 min after attack,
most from my account on Cryptopia.

Based on this 3 transactions, I calculate all hackers addresses.

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November 27, 2017, 03:34:07 AM
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Here is all current hackers addresses, you can calculate balance yourself.
.............


you can't be sure which is which (for example coins sold could be withdrawn by some good ppl),
but surely one can't withdraw more than deposit, in total, if none was bought of course.

And some good ppl withdraw coins from exchange in 5 min after attack  Smiley
Other was prepared to next attack, or mix many times.

Preparation to last attack f7b66ebe433f0be7d8332cd8f2d2dd579b480880543a0980d20932f539d738e8
Preparation to next attack 377dbe6b55b8840115a4351ce4ca8b842501f190017f5be75bbb480b1a3e7dc4
coins from addresses in last transaction later was mixed to new addr.
82901b8f3f38bbebc6f19acf63bda7920ba4bb582c2a1ce71a4b399cf03b805f withdrawn in 5 min after attack,
most from my account on Cryptopia.

Based on this 3 transactions, I calculate all hackers addresses.

forensics can't be 100% accurate.
so we revert to my initial question:
how can total withdrawn+sold be bigger than total deposit ?

btw, last attack was during Nov 6-7 if you check those 3 top addys,
not sure when coins were sold but plenty of time to withdraw by anyone
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November 27, 2017, 04:03:51 AM
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It was not fist attack, part of coins hacker not send to Cryptopia in last attack.

Last attack part 1
start block 3253321
end block  3253390

part 2
3254706
3254786

part 3
3255219
3255288

part 4
3256784
3256849

part 5
3257195
2357306

part 6
3257529
3257616

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November 27, 2017, 04:17:13 AM
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It was not fist attack, part of coins hacker not send to Cryptopia in last attack.

Last attack part 1
start block 3253321
end block  3253390

part 2
3254706
3254786

part 3
3255219
3255288

part 4
3256784
3256849

part 5
3257195
2357306

part 6
3257529
3257616

well that doesn't explain discrepancy in total numbers, i quit this odd discussion,
good chances you're about to blacklist some good folk whose only fault
was to withdraw from topia around the time of attacks,
can't imagine all 18M bought were left on topia and none taken to local wallets.
btw i'v noticed you improved your richlist position lately, a bit far from xmas lol
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November 27, 2017, 04:26:29 AM
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You can't calculate hacker positions based on top 3 addresses. Transactions not added to richlist after each block (may be hourly or daily), some was missed.

"good chances you're about to blacklist some good folk whose only fault
was to withdraw from topia around the time of attacks"

if someone say that it was good transaction and give me some screenshots, I add balance to white list.

"btw i'v noticed you improved your richlist position lately"

Yes I stake after 20 days, and stake soon again.

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November 27, 2017, 04:40:30 AM
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You can't calculate hacker positions based on top 3 addresses. Transactions not added to richlist after each block (may be hourly or daily), some was missed.

i wouldn't tell if not tested, all tx-es get caught by explorer database in 10 blocks for sure, maybe 6.
after that all orphaned ones (by 51) still remain there, which is enough 'coz cryptopia needs 20 confs,
and yes, they never go to richlist immediately, but after a day or so they'r all there.
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November 27, 2017, 04:50:40 AM
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You can't calculate hacker positions based on top 3 addresses. Transactions not added to richlist after each block (may be hourly or daily), some was missed.

i wouldn't tell if not tested, all tx-es get caught by explorer database in 10 blocks for sure, maybe 6.
after that all orphaned ones (by 51) still remain there, which is enough 'coz cryptopia needs 20 confs,
and yes, they never go to richlist immediately, but after a day or so they'r all there.

Examples of misbehaving:
F23saSxaVWZsDG1GFFqCUuCa3wjbkwhSK1
Richlist say 6,159,206
Address check 4,159,206

EguenxPXyL4CZ41NXv1N7z45uJK2VathQu
Richlist say 980,000
Address check 0

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November 27, 2017, 05:12:55 AM
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You can't calculate hacker positions based on top 3 addresses. Transactions not added to richlist after each block (may be hourly or daily), some was missed.

i wouldn't tell if not tested, all tx-es get caught by explorer database in 10 blocks for sure, maybe 6.
after that all orphaned ones (by 51) still remain there, which is enough 'coz cryptopia needs 20 confs,
and yes, they never go to richlist immediately, but after a day or so they'r all there.

Examples of misbehaving:
F23saSxaVWZsDG1GFFqCUuCa3wjbkwhSK1
Richlist say 6,159,206
Address check 4,159,206

EguenxPXyL4CZ41NXv1N7z45uJK2VathQu
Richlist say 980,000
Address check 0

this only affects richlist table, which is screwed as fck you'r right,
balances inside addy summary still remain correct to a point i explained earlier, imho
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November 27, 2017, 05:20:05 AM
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That is why I check each address and not take balances from richlist. But if you check top 3, find not existing transactions.

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November 27, 2017, 05:24:38 AM
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That is why I check each address and not take balances from richlist. But if you check top 3, find not existing transactions.

the ones with empty summary or not included in block are attack, sure

pal in the end it's not about checking, testing, methods and so on.
topia says 35M in accounts and none in the wallet, right ?
that means 35M fake coins (51'd) were deposited, period.
if some were sold and others withdrawn then that guy couldn't withdraw all 35M,
some taken by other folks who are in danger now
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November 27, 2017, 05:58:34 AM
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Cryptopia not say that, it was my guess.

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November 27, 2017, 06:09:23 AM
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Cryptopia not say that, it was my guess.

then ask them, i hope Tranz won't reimburse based on a guess

(well unless that guy sold all coins to himself and needs medical attention now lol)
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November 27, 2017, 06:40:05 AM
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Cryptopia not say that, it was my guess.

then ask them, i hope Tranz won't reimburse based on a guess

(well unless that guy sold all coins to himself and needs medical attention now lol)
Total balances can be easy calculated and it is 35-40M, I do not know how much left in wallet, but if problems with withdrawal, less them 1 M.

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November 27, 2017, 07:03:32 AM
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Cryptopia not say that, it was my guess.

then ask them, i hope Tranz won't reimburse based on a guess

(well unless that guy sold all coins to himself and needs medical attention now lol)
Total balances can be easy calculated and it is 35-40M, I do not know how much left in wallet, but if problems with withdrawal, less them 1 M.

35-40M before all attacks or after ?


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November 27, 2017, 07:47:00 AM
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35-40M now. Open CAP trading and instead "Chart" tab, set "Distribution" and calculate first 100 balances. Also you can set 1000 and calculate all.
first 40 = 32M

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November 27, 2017, 07:58:24 AM
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35-40M now. Open CAP trading and instead "Chart" tab, set "Distribution" and calculate first 100 balances. Also you can set 1000 and calculate all.
first 40 = 32M

yep, so trying to figure out ferengi math )
how could hacker withdraw all 35M if he(she) sold 18 to other accounts ?
obviously those people withdrew the rest, and seems you can't tell who's who.
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November 27, 2017, 01:53:30 PM
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What the hell is going on with this piece of shit PoS coin?

So someone got hacked or forked the network or whatever and now someone made another fork and we have to send CAP to them or sign a message or something to get CAPP?

This is a $100k marketcap coin. Ain't nobody got time for that...

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